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Apple announces support for alternative app stores in the EU, charging no commission but instead an annual €0.50 Core Technology Fee per install per account

including sideloading John Voorhees / MacStories : Apple Details How It Plans to Comply with the EU's Digital Markets Act Siôn Geschwindt / TNW : Apple begrudgingly allows EU customers to use rival app stores on iPhone Reuters : Apple faces ‘strong action’ if App Store changes fall short, says EU's Breton Ben Lovejoy / 9to5Mac : Apple's third-party app store announcements guarantee the company will end up in court Bloomberg : Apple Overhauls App Store, iPhone Features in EU to Appease Regulators Chance Miller / 9to5Mac : Apple announces support for third-party iPhone app stores in the EU, coming with iOS 17.4 Zac Hall / 9to5Mac : Apple releases first iOS 17.4 beta with these changes for the EU Niall Kitson / TechCentral.ie : Apple to let European users install apps that aren't on the App Store Juli Clover / MacRumors : These Are the Countries Where You Can Install Apps Outside of the iOS App Store Mat Smith / Engadget : The Morning After: Apple explains how third-party app stores will work in Europe Rounak Jain / Benzinga : Apple's Alternative App Store Model In The EU Could Potentially Cost Meta, Others ‘Millions’ Of Dollars In Yearly Payments To The iPhone-Maker Thom Holwerda / OSnews : Apple to allow sideloading, alternative application stores, alternative browser engines, lower costs, and more on iOS, but only in the EU Daniel Griffiths / Pocket Gamer.biz : Apple's Core Technology Fee explained - Who'll be paying what (and is this even legal?) Ashley Gold / Axios : Apple announces sweeping EU App Store changes Katie Collins / CNET : Apple Will Allow Installation of Rival App Stores on iPhones... but Only in Europe Kate O'Flaherty / Forbes : iOS 17.4—Game-Changing New Move Will Transform Your iPhone Forever Pranav Dixit / Business Today : Apple embraces change: Sideloading, alternate app stores coming to iPhone thanks to the EU Rostyslav Sobachynskyi / AIN.Capital : Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store in the European Union Daniel Sims / TechSpot : Apple big App Store changes: third-party stores and cloud gaming now allowed, also full-blown Chrome and Firefox Wayne Ma / The Information : Apple Reduces Commissions in Europe for App Developers New York Times : Apple Overhauls App Store in Europe, in Response to New Digital Law Alan Friedman / PhoneArena : Apple announces big changes coming in March to iOS, Safari, and the App Store in the EU J.D. Capelouto / Semafor : Apple overhauls app store in EU in landmark shift Michael Liedtke / Tech Xplore : Apple will open iPhone to alternative app stores, lower fees in Europe to comply with regulations Brendan Sinclair / GamesIndustry.biz : Apple to allow alternative app stores in Europe Maria Diaz / ZDNet : Apple OKs sideloading apps in the EU - with these restrictions Andrew Liszewski / The Messenger : Apple iPhones Will Soon Feature Other App Stores, But Only in Europe Adi Robertson / The Verge : Third-party iOS app store announcements are already rolling out. Dallas Thomas / Android Police : Apple is finally making it easy for iPhone users to sideload apps Simon Batt / XDA Developers : Apple just made the App Store more like Android, but only in the EU Adam Eckert / Benzinga : Apple's App Store To Get Major Overhaul In Response To EU Regulations Laurent Giret / Thurrott : iOS 17.4 Will Open Up the App Store, Other iPhone Features for EU Users in March Natasha Lomas / TechCrunch : Apple's answer to EU's gatekeeper rules is new ‘core tech’ fee for apps Karissa Bell / Engadget : Apple details how third-party app stores and payments will work in Europe Taylor Lyles / IGN : Apple Finally Lets Other Companies Launch Their Own Storefronts on the App Store Andrew Griffin / The Independent : Apple makes dramatic changes to the iPhone and App Store Brian Fung / CNN : Apple announces sweeping changes for apps in Europe, including allowing third-party app stores for the first time William Gallagher / AppleInsider : Apple has new App Store rules, business terms, and sideloading conditions for EU developers Adrian Weckler / Independent.ie : Cheaper Spotify and Netflix subscriptions could be on the way after EU forces iPhone App Store shake-up Michael Potuck / 9to5Mac : Apple details its plans to “protect and inform” EU users, like via in-app disclosure sheets; features like Family Sharing won't be available when sideloading Threads: M.G. Siegler / @mgsiegler : Apple Introduces Sweeping App Store Changes to Ensure the Status Quo is Maintained Steven Sinofsky / @stevesi : Today I'm thinking about engineers at Apple that had to this work knowing it is undoing a highly-valued and unique brand promise.  💔 Big companies lobbying behind the scenes will ultimately undermine security, privacy, and reliability for all. … Benedict Evans / @benedictevans : There is not much you can say about Apple's App Store rules that we didn't say in 2011.  Apple thinks it should get paid by developers and it thinks that third-party apps need to be managed actively for privacy security and performance.  The first is a matter of opinion, but on the second it's absolutely right. Roman / @roman_lfb : From all of those App Store changes, what I'm honestly most looking forward to are the new analytics reports.  Apple really needed to up their game there!  As for the rest, it sounds like a bit of a headache.  I'll let others experiment with alternative App Stores and the new fees before forming an opinion... M.G. Siegler / @mgsiegler : I wrote a bit on these App Store changes earlier (on the first report before Apple confirmed changes being made).  My guess was it was Apple going down the taunting path.  So this *seems* better.  But it's also way more convoluted, so it's hard to know for sure.  There would appear to be a “look at all the changes we're making! … @altstoreio : It's finally happening — sideloading is coming to the EU!  We've started the process of becoming a legitimate “app marketplace”, allowing our European friends to download Delta and other AltStore apps officially for the first time ever!  See you in March ☘️ Benedict Evans / @benedictevans : One gotcha that immediately jumps out: “Marketplace apps may only be installed from the marketplace developer's website” Your can't put an app in the Apple app store that can sell and download third party apps.  So Meta can't put a games store in the main Facebook app - unless it makes you go to a website to download that app serpately. Benedict Evans / @benedictevans : Apple's plan for side-loading and third party app stores in the EU.  Plus, third party web browsing engines.  Lots of things to read.  Big deal, perhaps, for some apps (Spotify)... but the real question is how much any of this really changes things. https://developer.apple.com/ ... Federico Viticci / @viticci : Apple has announced some SWEEPING changes coming to the App Store in the EU with iOS 17.4: - Alternative app marketplaces - 0% commission for apps sold outside the App Store - Third-party browser engines now allowed (!!) … Mastodon: Jeff Johnson / @lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social : I find all the new rules extremely confusing.  —  Which I'd guess was intentional. Jeff Johnson / @lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social : As far as I can tell, there's no *independent* app distribution on iOS, like there is on the Mac.  There are only “alternative marketplaces” that have to be approved by Apple.  That sucks.  Fuck that shit.  We don't need gatekeepers at all, whether Apple or some alternative.  Anything less than the capability for direct distribution from developer to consumer is unacceptable. @viticci@mastodon.macstories.net : Apple is also reducing its App Store commission to 17% (or 10% for discounted rate program).  They are also introducing:  — Third-party NFC payments  — Third-party payment methods on the App Store  — A new screen for picking your default browser  — Data portability for your App Store history … @sdw@mastodon.social : 2027. I set up my new iPhone.  I insert my EU mandated replaceable compostable battery.  I choose my default browser, phone dialer, Lock Screen, health app, NFC payment app, and Siri voice (the EU mandated an open market for Siri voices in the amended 2026 Digital Markets Act).  I go to the App Store, dismiss the cookie warning, select my App Store search engine and download the Coca-Cola App Catalogue to get the Disney+ app to load up on MickeyCoins to purchase the latest Star Wars game. X: @epicnewsroom : Fortnite will return to iOS in Europe in 2024, distributed by the upcoming @EpicGames Store for iOS. Stay tuned for details as we figure out the regulatory timeline. We'll continue to argue to the courts and regulators that Apple is breaking the law. M.G. Siegler / @mgsiegler : This is wayyyy more convoluted than you can fit in one headline. The question is if it will placate the EU or taunt them. On first read, feels almost like Apple did more than they absolutely needed to in order to look good but the details make it awfully complicated... Steven Sinofsky / @stevesi : The concept of not permitting additional runtimes on iPhone and iPad has long been known as a significant risk. People can see this as a constraint all they want but it was part of an Apple brand promise Steve Jobs went to the market with. See “Thoughts on Flash” from 2010. This... Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life : I'm still shocked by the fact that Apple's DMA compliance plan is to charge developers more money to use the DMA compliant version of their product. The €0.50 fee means a free app with 2M users will now owe Apple €500,000 a year versus nothing today. https://www.macrumors.com/... Steven Sinofsky / @stevesi : Just one wild example. Apple did a massive amount of work and took significant heat to make the iPhone a much better device to use the web without being tracked BY DEFAULT. This latest move undoes all that work and now it will be easy to distribute apps that track/phone... @snazzylabs : It's hard to legislate perceived monopolies. On the one hand, I do think Apple abuses developers for App Store revenue. On the other hand, legislating that things be opened will just allow other crappy companies to worsen the experience for end-users on top of Apple. @techhighest : Everything wrong with apple's sideloading (what has been deciphered so far) - $1 Million letter of credit needed - .ipa's can't be installed - only 3rd party stores can be directly installed (from the web) - 0.50€/mo/install after 1M downloads @dhh : The biggest loser of Apple's new EU/DMA regime seems to be Meta! They must now pay $10m PER MONTH PER APP that gets 200m installs. That's gotta be hundreds of millions in new yearly payments from Meta to Apple?? [image] @mysk_co : No new Spotify on the iPad though. If your app supports both iOS and iPadOS and now you're interested in an alternative app marketplace, you have to submit two apps: an iPadOS app to Apple's App Store and an iOS app to a third-party app store. Insane 🤯 [image] @snazzylabs : The EU has mandated that all phones have built-in 56K modems by 2027. Sebastiaan de With / @sdw : RIP to all those people that thought the EU would bring macOS style sideloading to iOS, I guess @alexlindsay : @sdw Apple is opening it up just enough to build use cases for why it will affect quality and security. The first missteps will be part of the marketing campaign. As a user, I really don't want another store. As a developer, I really don't want users to be confused/frustrated. @andreas_schwab : @lewis_crofts ... He also has to watch the @EP_SingleMarket 🚨 Lewis Crofts / @lewis_crofts : #DMA rapporteur & EU Parliament's digital regulation guru has his eye on the #Apple compliance plan. David Barnard / @drbarnard : One bit of good news.  ATT will still apply for apps installed outside the App Store.  That mostly negates the impetus for Meta to create a 3rd party app store just to circumvent ATT and improve marketing efficiency with better data.  There might still be some “first party” data that helps... Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life : Overall, I think these are great changes and Apple should make these worldwide not just in the EU. Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life : Apple has announced their sideloading plan to comply with the EU's DMA. They will charge €0.50 per install per year for sideloaded apps, with the first million being free. The App Store's 30% cut will also be reduced to 17%. But wait there's more https://www.macrumors.com/... Mishaal Rahman / @mishaalrahman : “iOS apps distributed from the App Store and/or an alternative app marketplace will pay €0.50 for each first annual install per year over a 1 million threshold.” This seems ridiculous, especially since it affects third-party app stores too?? Steven Sinofsky / @stevesi : Update on apps distributed in the European Union [link] These do not make the platform better for anyone but degrade the computer experience for everyone.  It isn't what consumers are paying for... Steven Sinofsky / @stevesi : What the EU is doing to iPhone is making me sad. My heart breaks for engineers and others at Apple being forced to make their product bad and undermine a brand promise they worked so hard to build. We're all less safe, secure, reliable, private, etc online.💔 Sebastiaan de With / @sdw : Finally, Apple has opened the doors to alternative app stores and real choice in the EU.  [Quotes his earlier toot:] M.G. Siegler / @mgsiegler : Apple Introduces Sweeping App Store Changes to Ensure the Status Quo is Maintained Steve Moser / @stevemoser : Lots of info in Apple's App Store changes announcement. - What are mini-apps? How are they different from App Clips, applets, and plugins? We need an explainer. - Streaming of games i.e. cloud games (and mini-apps)! - New app analytics. EU Changes - 3rd party NFC Tap to Pay... [image] M.G. Siegler / @mgsiegler : Which is to say, optically it looks good on paper but there are so many if/thens that it may not actually be in practice (shocker, I know). A way to make it appear compliant while at the same time not shifting the status quo much. Maybe too cynical. But well... Simonetta Vezzoso / @wavesblog : “The changes include more than 600 new APIs, expanded app analytics, functionality for alternative browser engines, and options for processing app payments and distributing iOS apps” Does it qualify as effective DMA compliance? Matthew Ball / @ballmatthew : The €0.50 per install can get tricky - exact savings aren't yet clear. But big question is does this simultaneously expand who the fees apply to - in a sense, more fair to gaming devs that were previously singled out, but at the cost of those with exceptions ("reader apps") James O'Malley / @psythor : Very curious whether Britain will inherit these new rules just because it's easier to administer British users as part of Europe, or if we'll be treated separately. (As far as I'm aware our Digital Markets bill isn't as explicit as the EU's DMA on stuff like this?). Andreas Proschofsky / @suka_hiroaki : Thank you, EU! Third party app stores, side loading, real third party browsers. Nice things coming up for iphone users Aaron Tilley / @aatilley : Apple announces its DMA compliance plan that include sideloading. For sideloaded apps, Apple will be charging “€0.50 for each first annual install per year over a 1 million threshold.” For big apps, that could be a lot of money https://www.apple.com/... Lewis Crofts / @lewis_crofts : Apple & @tim_cook making their big play to appease @vestager and comply with the #DMA. Changes to: - App Store: to allow side-loading - fee-structure: for apps outside their app store - choice screen to select the browser you want Apple's foes will be picking over this. /1 Lewis Crofts / @lewis_crofts : Apple says iOS 17.4 will allow rival app stores, so-called side-loading. You can't download apps from a browser, but developers can put their apps in a rival store. Developers can stick w/ Apple if they want. 30pc fee for digital content or 15pc if you're a small business /2 Lewis Crofts / @lewis_crofts : Apple is still clearly not a fan of the DMA and reckons it's doesn't chime with its own high level of privacy and security. But they are complying anyway. The company is bringing in an authorization process for app store developers, but says “many risks remain."/4 Mark Gurman / @markgurman : NEW: Apple is overhauling the App Store, Safari and iPhone features in the European Union to appease regulators. This includes 3rd-party stores, side loading, new commissions (10% to 17%), third-party tap to pay apps and all-in-one game streaming services https://www.bloomberg.com/... Max Weinbach / @maxwinebach : Might need to buy an EU iPhone Ryan Jones / @rjonesy : SIX HUNDRED new API's. Holy shit. More analytics. Alternative browser engines. Alternative payment processors. [image] Rich DeMuro / @richontech : Apple says forced changes in the EU to allow users to download apps from outside its own App Store and payment systems will result in “new avenues for malware, fraud and scams, illicit and harmful content, and other privacy and security threats” I 100% agree. While I'm not a... [image] LinkedIn: Albert Fong : The walled garden is getting chipped away at least in Europe.  Apple is overhauling the App Store, Safari and iPhone features in the EU to appease regulators … Nico Wittenborn : I started in tech by unlocking iPhones to enable Cydia and we've come full circle  —  This will enable higher margins for mobile-first companies … Benedict Evans : Apple has published its terms for complying with the DMA requirement for third parry apps stores.  There is a lot in here for people to argue about. … Forums: Hacker News : iOS 17.4 Introduces Alternative App Marketplaces with No Commission in EU r/gadgets : Apple is bringing sideloading and alternate app stores to the iPhone Ars OpenForum : Apple announces sweeping EU App Store policy changes—including sideloading Ars OpenForum : New EU App Store rules MacRumors Forums : These Are the Countries Where You Can Install Apps Outside of the iOS App Store

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Discussion

  • @mgsiegler M.G. Siegler on threads
    Apple Introduces Sweeping App Store Changes to Ensure the Status Quo is Maintained
  • @stevesi Steven Sinofsky on threads
    Today I'm thinking about engineers at Apple that had to this work knowing it is undoing a highly-valued and unique brand promise.  💔 Big companies lobbying behind the scenes will ultimately undermine security, privacy, and reliability for all. …
  • @benedictevans Benedict Evans on threads
    There is not much you can say about Apple's App Store rules that we didn't say in 2011.  Apple thinks it should get paid by developers and it thinks that third-party apps need to be managed actively for privacy security and performance.  The first is a matter of opinion, but on t…
  • @roman_lfb Roman on threads
    From all of those App Store changes, what I'm honestly most looking forward to are the new analytics reports.  Apple really needed to up their game there!  As for the rest, it sounds like a bit of a headache.  I'll let others experiment with alternative App Stores and the new fee…
  • @mgsiegler M.G. Siegler on threads
    I wrote a bit on these App Store changes earlier (on the first report before Apple confirmed changes being made).  My guess was it was Apple going down the taunting path.  So this *seems* better.  But it's also way more convoluted, so it's hard to know for sure.  There would appe…
  • @altstoreio @altstoreio on threads
    It's finally happening — sideloading is coming to the EU!  We've started the process of becoming a legitimate “app marketplace”, allowing our European friends to download Delta and other AltStore apps officially for the first time ever!  See you in March ☘️
  • @benedictevans Benedict Evans on threads
    Apple's plan for side-loading and third party app stores in the EU.  Plus, third party web browsing engines.  Lots of things to read.  Big deal, perhaps, for some apps (Spotify)... but the real question is how much any of this really changes things. https://developer.apple.com/ .…
  • @viticci Federico Viticci on threads
    Apple has announced some SWEEPING changes coming to the App Store in the EU with iOS 17.4: - Alternative app marketplaces - 0% commission for apps sold outside the App Store - Third-party browser engines now allowed (!!) …
  • @benedictevans Benedict Evans on threads
    One gotcha that immediately jumps out: “Marketplace apps may only be installed from the marketplace developer's website” Your can't put an app in the Apple app store that can sell and download third party apps.  So Meta can't put a games store in the main Facebook app - unless it…
  • @lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social Jeff Johnson on mastodon
    I find all the new rules extremely confusing.  —  Which I'd guess was intentional.
  • @lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social Jeff Johnson on mastodon
    As far as I can tell, there's no *independent* app distribution on iOS, like there is on the Mac.  There are only “alternative marketplaces” that have to be approved by Apple.  That sucks.  Fuck that shit.  We don't need gatekeepers at all, whether Apple or some alternative.  Any…
  • @viticci@mastodon.macstories.net @viticci@mastodon.macstories.net on mastodon
    Apple is also reducing its App Store commission to 17% (or 10% for discounted rate program).  They are also introducing:  — Third-party NFC payments  — Third-party payment methods on the App Store  — A new screen for picking your default browser  — Data portability for your App S…
  • @sdw@mastodon.social @sdw@mastodon.social on mastodon
    2027. I set up my new iPhone.  I insert my EU mandated replaceable compostable battery.  I choose my default browser, phone dialer, Lock Screen, health app, NFC payment app, and Siri voice (the EU mandated an open market for Siri voices in the amended 2026 Digital Markets Act).  …
  • @epicnewsroom @epicnewsroom on x
    Fortnite will return to iOS in Europe in 2024, distributed by the upcoming @EpicGames Store for iOS. Stay tuned for details as we figure out the regulatory timeline. We'll continue to argue to the courts and regulators that Apple is breaking the law.
  • @mgsiegler M.G. Siegler on x
    This is wayyyy more convoluted than you can fit in one headline. The question is if it will placate the EU or taunt them. On first read, feels almost like Apple did more than they absolutely needed to in order to look good but the details make it awfully complicated...
  • @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x
    I'm still shocked by the fact that Apple's DMA compliance plan is to charge developers more money to use the DMA compliant version of their product. The €0.50 fee means a free app with 2M users will now owe Apple €500,000 a year versus nothing today. https://www.macrumors.com/...
  • @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x
    Apple has announced their sideloading plan to comply with the EU's DMA. They will charge €0.50 per install per year for sideloaded apps, with the first million being free. The App Store's 30% cut will also be reduced to 17%. But wait there's more https://www.macrumors.com/...
  • @sdw Sebastiaan de With on x
    RIP to all those people that thought the EU would bring macOS style sideloading to iOS, I guess
  • @stevesi Steven Sinofsky on x
    The concept of not permitting additional runtimes on iPhone and iPad has long been known as a significant risk. People can see this as a constraint all they want but it was part of an Apple brand promise Steve Jobs went to the market with. See “Thoughts on Flash” from 2010. This.…
  • @alexlindsay @alexlindsay on x
    @sdw Apple is opening it up just enough to build use cases for why it will affect quality and security. The first missteps will be part of the marketing campaign. As a user, I really don't want another store. As a developer, I really don't want users to be confused/frustrated.
  • @stevesi Steven Sinofsky on x
    Just one wild example. Apple did a massive amount of work and took significant heat to make the iPhone a much better device to use the web without being tracked BY DEFAULT. This latest move undoes all that work and now it will be easy to distribute apps that track/phone...
  • @drbarnard David Barnard on x
    One bit of good news.  ATT will still apply for apps installed outside the App Store.  That mostly negates the impetus for Meta to create a 3rd party app store just to circumvent ATT and improve marketing efficiency with better data.  There might still be some “first party” data …
  • @andreas_schwab @andreas_schwab on x
    @lewis_crofts ... He also has to watch the @EP_SingleMarket 🚨
  • @snazzylabs @snazzylabs on x
    The EU has mandated that all phones have built-in 56K modems by 2027.
  • @mysk_co @mysk_co on x
    No new Spotify on the iPad though. If your app supports both iOS and iPadOS and now you're interested in an alternative app marketplace, you have to submit two apps: an iPadOS app to Apple's App Store and an iOS app to a third-party app store. Insane 🤯 [image]
  • @mishaalrahman Mishaal Rahman on x
    “iOS apps distributed from the App Store and/or an alternative app marketplace will pay €0.50 for each first annual install per year over a 1 million threshold.” This seems ridiculous, especially since it affects third-party app stores too??
  • @snazzylabs @snazzylabs on x
    It's hard to legislate perceived monopolies. On the one hand, I do think Apple abuses developers for App Store revenue. On the other hand, legislating that things be opened will just allow other crappy companies to worsen the experience for end-users on top of Apple.
  • @techhighest @techhighest on x
    Everything wrong with apple's sideloading (what has been deciphered so far) - $1 Million letter of credit needed - .ipa's can't be installed - only 3rd party stores can be directly installed (from the web) - 0.50€/mo/install after 1M downloads
  • @dhh @dhh on x
    The biggest loser of Apple's new EU/DMA regime seems to be Meta! They must now pay $10m PER MONTH PER APP that gets 200m installs. That's gotta be hundreds of millions in new yearly payments from Meta to Apple?? [image]
  • @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x
    Overall, I think these are great changes and Apple should make these worldwide not just in the EU.
  • @lewis_crofts Lewis Crofts on x
    #DMA rapporteur & EU Parliament's digital regulation guru has his eye on the #Apple compliance plan.
  • @stevesi Steven Sinofsky on x
    Update on apps distributed in the European Union [link] These do not make the platform better for anyone but degrade the computer experience for everyone.  It isn't what consumers are paying for...
  • @stevesi Steven Sinofsky on x
    What the EU is doing to iPhone is making me sad. My heart breaks for engineers and others at Apple being forced to make their product bad and undermine a brand promise they worked so hard to build. We're all less safe, secure, reliable, private, etc online.💔
  • @sdw Sebastiaan de With on x
    Finally, Apple has opened the doors to alternative app stores and real choice in the EU.  [Quotes his earlier toot:]
  • @mgsiegler M.G. Siegler on x
    Apple Introduces Sweeping App Store Changes to Ensure the Status Quo is Maintained
  • @mgsiegler M.G. Siegler on x
    Which is to say, optically it looks good on paper but there are so many if/thens that it may not actually be in practice (shocker, I know). A way to make it appear compliant while at the same time not shifting the status quo much. Maybe too cynical. But well...
  • @wavesblog Simonetta Vezzoso on x
    “The changes include more than 600 new APIs, expanded app analytics, functionality for alternative browser engines, and options for processing app payments and distributing iOS apps” Does it qualify as effective DMA compliance?
  • @ballmatthew Matthew Ball on x
    The €0.50 per install can get tricky - exact savings aren't yet clear. But big question is does this simultaneously expand who the fees apply to - in a sense, more fair to gaming devs that were previously singled out, but at the cost of those with exceptions ("reader apps")
  • @psythor James O'Malley on x
    Very curious whether Britain will inherit these new rules just because it's easier to administer British users as part of Europe, or if we'll be treated separately. (As far as I'm aware our Digital Markets bill isn't as explicit as the EU's DMA on stuff like this?).
  • @suka_hiroaki Andreas Proschofsky on x
    Thank you, EU! Third party app stores, side loading, real third party browsers. Nice things coming up for iphone users
  • @aatilley Aaron Tilley on x
    Apple announces its DMA compliance plan that include sideloading. For sideloaded apps, Apple will be charging “€0.50 for each first annual install per year over a 1 million threshold.” For big apps, that could be a lot of money https://www.apple.com/...
  • @lewis_crofts Lewis Crofts on x
    Apple & @tim_cook making their big play to appease @vestager and comply with the #DMA. Changes to: - App Store: to allow side-loading - fee-structure: for apps outside their app store - choice screen to select the browser you want Apple's foes will be picking over this. /1
  • @lewis_crofts Lewis Crofts on x
    Apple says iOS 17.4 will allow rival app stores, so-called side-loading. You can't download apps from a browser, but developers can put their apps in a rival store. Developers can stick w/ Apple if they want. 30pc fee for digital content or 15pc if you're a small business /2
  • @lewis_crofts Lewis Crofts on x
    Apple is still clearly not a fan of the DMA and reckons it's doesn't chime with its own high level of privacy and security. But they are complying anyway. The company is bringing in an authorization process for app store developers, but says “many risks remain."/4
  • @markgurman Mark Gurman on x
    NEW: Apple is overhauling the App Store, Safari and iPhone features in the European Union to appease regulators. This includes 3rd-party stores, side loading, new commissions (10% to 17%), third-party tap to pay apps and all-in-one game streaming services https://www.bloomberg.co…
  • @maxwinebach Max Weinbach on x
    Might need to buy an EU iPhone
  • @rjonesy Ryan Jones on x
    SIX HUNDRED new API's. Holy shit. More analytics. Alternative browser engines. Alternative payment processors. [image]
  • @richontech Rich DeMuro on x
    Apple says forced changes in the EU to allow users to download apps from outside its own App Store and payment systems will result in “new avenues for malware, fraud and scams, illicit and harmful content, and other privacy and security threats” I 100% agree. While I'm not a... […
  • r/gadgets r on reddit
    Apple is bringing sideloading and alternate app stores to the iPhone
  • @stroughtonsmith … Steve Troughton-Smith on mastodon
    Free apps are going to be massively, disproportionately affected by Apple's Core Technology Fee, which is why I don't think it will stand as-is.  —  If you have just 2M users on a completely free app, you're looking at $45,290 in monthly fees to Apple, or half a million dollars a…
  • @vadimyuryev Vadim Yuryev on x
    Yup lol. There will be no free apps on third-party app stores unless that app can generate boatloads of cash from in-app purchases. If your indie app or game is free and it goes viral overnight.. you might be screwed!
  • @avichal @avichal on x
    It's the same story every time: 1. A closed platform bootstraps by generously rewarding devs 2. Extracts all value & kills the new app ecosystem, but has a moat from existing apps 3. Developers realize open platforms are better The pendulum will now swing back to open platforms
  • @morganwbender Morgan Bender on x
    That's fees for an app *in apple's store* with in-app purchases. This is for native ios apps who completely opt out of apple's store (side loading only). Still 49% of revenue! WTF? [image]
  • @markopolojarvi Marko on x
    EU seems to be rather toothless if Apple can so blatantly show them all the middle fingers and get away with it. There is a thing called “spirit of the law” that is used on cases where workaround exists but the act is obviously a violation. This belongs in that category.
  • @mehedih_ Mehedi on x
    Americans blaming the European laws instead of Apple is the most American thing ever
  • @prime_31 @prime_31 on x
    Did Apple just pull a Unity?!? WTF is going on in the games world? Imagine a few months from now you use Unity 6 (dumb move #1) and end up getting dinged per install TWICE. Plus the Core Technology Fee. What a year it's gonna be...🤣
  • @sirstendec @sirstendec on x
    I hope everyone who hated Unity for bullshit per-installation fees is going to show up to hate Apple for trying the same bullshit in the EU. Apple's garbage is worse than Unity's ever was. Those fees are absolutely insane. Company run by greedy clowns.
  • @incvuvuu @incvuvuu on x
    this just in, apple has committed a unity
  • @nimajamalian Nima Jamalian on x
    #Apple copying #Unity was not in my 2024 bingo card💀
  • @yacinemtb Kache on x
    imagine how much worse the whole unity thing would have been if they had a monopoly on the game engine market. yep, that's apple.
  • @dev_avocado @dev_avocado on x
    Regarding App Store installation fees. I think the solution is pretty clear, developers need to unite and do what they decided to do with Unity. App developers need apple's platform but if there're no apps then it is just another Windows Phone.
  • @podopriguez Andrei Podoprigora on x
    interesting news from Apple. and we thought Unity was crazy? [image]
  • @andytouch Andy Touch on x
    Did Apple really just “hold my beer” to Unity?! 🤣
  • @oskargroth Oskar Groth on x
    Apple is pulling a Unity here. We all know how that went...
  • @injimaru @injimaru on x
    @AshleyGullen For each first annual install doesn't sound too bad or am I missing something? 🤔 It's not like you'll get charged for multiple installs from the same user in that year right?
  • @paulplaystudio @paulplaystudio on x
    @AshleyGullen Now it makes sense... developers can choose to stay with Apple's existing terms. This is for developers that want to use „the new capabilities" (= alt. payment methods) which will definitely not be worth it if they get through with this... [image]
  • @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x
    Under what possible theory of antitrust regulation is it acceptable for a monopoly to decide what companies are allowed to compete with it, and on what terms they can compete? Apple makes a mockery of free market competition.
  • @dhh @dhh on x
    To create an alternative App Store you have to: “Provide Apple a stand-by letter of credit from an A-rated financial Institution of €1,000,000 to establish adequate financial means in order to guarantee support for your developers and users.” 🤣 [image]
  • r/apple r on reddit
    Apple requires €1,000,000 letter of credit to open a third party app store.
  • @benedictevans Benedict Evans on threads
    Apple will notarise all apps that go through third-party apps stores, including manual review.  If you run an apps store - it has to be ‘mainly’ an App Store (no downloads form inside Spotify or Instagram), and you have to pay Apple €0.5 for each download past your first million …