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• @anthropicai @anthropicai on x

  The US government, citing national security authorities, has issued an export control directive to suspend all access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 by any foreign national, whether inside or outside the United States, including foreign national Anthropic employees.  The net effect of t…

• @claudedevs @claudedevs on x

  As a result of a US government directive, we are suspending access to Claude Fable 5 for all users. You can continue to use all other Claude models. Here's what this means for you: Across Claude products, new sessions will run on your selected default model or Opus 4.8, and

• @cognition @cognition on x

  We're removing access to Claude Fable 5 in Cognition products following Anthropic's latest announcement and the US government directive to suspend access. All other models remain available in Devin, including Claude Opus 4.8 and GPT-5.5. Devin Ultra mode will continue to use

• @natolambert Nathan Lambert on x

  A good time to remind people that in my time doing LLM research I feel like a minority of my colleagues are American citizens. It would be industry destroying to have to rebuild with segregation for frontier ai research to be legal.

• @petereharrell Peter Harrell on x

  I find it ridiculous and un-American for the government to tell me, as an American, I cannot use an advanced AI model because of a vague and non-public alleged security threat. We should regulate AI, but based on transparent and impartial rules, and not 5pm on a Friday diktats.

• @dylan522p Dylan Patel on x

  OpenAI now just needs to sandbag the next model release So the US doesn't export control them So they gain massive market share It's imperative that all the OAI employees don't vauge hype post their next model release as the greatest thing ever Don't know if they are capable tho

• @antoniogm Antonio García Martínez on x

  Didn't expect the next Fort Sumter to be over an AI model.

• @benjaminmmurphy Ben Murphy on x

  Third, it's not even obvious to me what authority this is being taken under. If it's ECRA, It's not obvious to me that the law reaches Fable; if it's something else, we'll have to see what justification the administration has.

• @scaling01 @scaling01 on x

  For anyone wondering what this means: - Anthropic (and potentially future OpenAI, Google, xAI) models that cost billions to develop will make 0 revenue outside the US - a big double digit percentage of Anthropic (and potentially OpenAI, Google, xAI) workforce can no longer work

• @beffjezos @beffjezos on x

  Anthropic finally achieving their dream of being nationalized

• @buccocapital @buccocapital on x

  Anthropic rubs their nipples and begs to be regulated then whines and whines and whines and whines and whines when they get regulated. Pathetic. You don't get to have it both ways. They should really be careful. Vibes are everything here and they look like idiots

• @tereza_tizkova Tereza Tizkova on x

  applying for Fable is the new applying for O1 visa

• @fooobar Gaurav Aggarwal on x

  Is it too far fetched to state that foreign nationals, working at American big techs are essentially working for the US govt and they themselves will not be able to use the very models they helped create? The same models will probably be used against their country of citizenship!

• @davidmarcus David Marcus on x

  Woah. That really sucks.

• @allanatrixq Allan on x

  I gotta be honest with you guys. I usually never comment on these, but seriously, this is not cool. I'm in a foreign country, and the fact that they can just yank the model away at any moment is catastrophic. I've been into local AI for a while. I tried out Fable, and it's a

• @tszzl Roon on x

  once again unlimited aura farming they always do this shit on a friday night

• @dowciodavies @dowciodavies on x

  We fully support @POTUS and @SecWar in prioritizing national security and the security of our warfighters, DIB partners, critical infrastructure, international partners and allies. Some things are simply more important than revenue cycles, clickbait, and pre-IPO valuation.

• @bnj Ben South on x

  This is one step away from requiring security clearance to access frontier intelligence Only Newspeak LLMs will be approved for public use

• @semianalysis_ @semianalysis_ on x

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• @scaling01 @scaling01 on x

  I'm so excited for monday. It's gonna be a great monday. Trump popping the AI bubble wasn't on my bingo card. [image]

• @thdxr Dax on x

  the lower down in the stack the more boring you want your vendors to be ai labs are way too loud esp when some are focused entirely on enterprise don't want them to be in the headlines or trying to influence govt policy, that stuff is wild and will implode in your face quickly

• @thdxr Dax on x

  gov keeps handing anthropic marketing Ws

• @itsdanielwu Daniel Wu on x

  How does something like this not torpedo the AI intelligence explosion bull case? USG establishing precedent that access to anything as smart as Fable 5 (which is not RSI and nowhere near AGI) will be banned. Even if Ant could make the model accessible to US nationals, how will

• @matthew_pines Matthew Pines on x

  this is gonna send shockwaves through every lab and neolab... U.S. export control laws operate under a strict liability standard... they are a very sharp blade... [image]

• @juliarturc Julia Turc on x

  Anthropic: “Fable is too dangerous for peasants” US government: “Ok then don't let people use it” Anthropic: “We believe this is a misunderstanding”

• @semianalysis_ @semianalysis_ on x

  we heard fable got banned [image]

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  I wonder how @pmarca feels about export controls on neural network model weights

• @matthewberman Matthew Berman on x

  self-inflicted. this would have NEVER happened if anthropic didn't make such a big deal about mythos being dangerous.

• @chrisspoke @chrisspoke on x

  I think that this is bad and dumb policy, and another reason to move to the US. Ironically, the rest of the world might only keep up thanks to communist China and its open source models.

• @chrisrmcguire Chris McGuire on x

  I actually think targeted export controls on model access are prudent. But across the board controls on all countries on a single model, without any warning, is highly questionable. Imposing equally broad deemed export controls, which also restrict access to foreign nationals, is

• @hamandcheese Samuel Hammond on x

  Clearly this is all part of Anthropic's long game for regulatory capture 🙄 🤡

• @hamandcheese Samuel Hammond on x

  Two possibilities, both extremely bad: 1. The admin is deliberating fucking with Anthropic for Schmittian reasons 2. This is now precedent for any model with Mythos-level capabilities and beyond When OpenAI releases a comparable model will they face the same controls?

• @levie Aaron Levie on x

  This is a big turning point for AI regulation. The government is starting to deem some models too powerful for certain uses, which creates a precedent for a range of possible controls in the future. I'm in the camp that this is unnecessary and we should be primarily regulating [i…

• @provisionalidea James Rosen-Birch on x

  Given Dario's post was crafted to dovetail with a number of Admin positions while reversing previous Anthropic doctrine (see eg the reversal on fully-autonomous weapons), I would be very surprised if they were completely blindsided by this

• @danshipper Dan Shipper on x

  my take on this situation currently is that they'll unban it in a few days and the net effect will be increased demand for Fable however this kind of thing is extremely disruptive and distracting for people inside of the company. the only comparable scenario i can remember is

• @pmarca Marc Andreessen on x

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• @mohapatrahemant Hemant Mohapatra on x

  The “sovereign AI is real” moment is here. Nation-states will soon start needing citizenship and/or security clearances to work on the next SOTA models the way they do for defense, space, nuclear tech. It is only a matter of time. Talent wars here will be crazy.

• @tekbog @tekbog on x

  it feels like this is what anthropic has been after for a while and they finally got it

• @benjaminmmurphy Ben Murphy on x

  First, this is another step on the balkanization of technology. It might previously have been unthinkable to require proof-of-citizenship to access services; it's increasingly common across new technologies and, to be honest, this attempt is not surprising in that light.

• @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x

  Until tonight, I didn't think either the US or China would “win” the GenAI race. I thought it would be a tie. Didn't occur to me the Trump administration could trip the US efforts from behind. But it just did.

• @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x

  👇 Commerce's decree against Anthropic seems both overdramatic and also counterproductive. I am with @deanwball that the decision feels heavy-handed. Perhaps does China a favor though. Certainly every Chinese person working in a US AI company (and there are many) will consider

• @ketanrama Ketan Ramakrishnan on x

  The federal government is going to regulate AI developers aggressively. The question is whether this regulation will be done intelligently or not; whether Congress and public deliberation will have a role or just opaque executive action; etc

• @pronounced_kyle Christian Keil on x

  Turns out the secret to AI Safety was right in front of us the whole time: Mandating that the labs use Microsoft Teams

• @ashleevance Ashlee Vance on x

  This strikes me as so petty and dumb on the government's part. They want anthropic to do their bidding and are willing to hold the whole country back as a result [image]

• @scaling01 @scaling01 on x

  this might be better than the Sam Altman / Board drama in late 2023 or the supply chain risk designation saga

• @natolambert Nathan Lambert on x

  Not even much to say, I think the government way overstepped but we'll see if they can substantiate the evidence (in which case Anthropic would tell us). Anthropic's messaging was pushing government action, but this is insane.

• @sudoraohacker Arun Rao on x

  This is an extreme action and a dramatic escalation from the Trump administration, unprecedented in the world of software and AI models. I expect it will be challenged in court and it suggests that the Trump administration has taken a steep anti-AI turn. Not sure what

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  It is so funny how anthropic just willingly forfeited the vibes frontier this week and then on Friday night the trump admin, which hates them, handed it right back to them

• @ccatalini Christian Catalini on x

  Not your weights, not your model. https://x.com/...

• @benjaminmmurphy Ben Murphy on x

  Fourth, this lack of predictability will have bad and obvious consequences for developers: - If you need to account for the risk of unilateral post-hoc restrictions, labs will either keep more models in-house or just not make them generally available. - Depending on the exact

• @mweinbach Max Weinbach on x

  On a more serious note with this, it's likely all AI platforms with models of a certain capability will require ID or passport verification, and for Anthropic to lock down models like Fable and Mythos to only their surfaces like Claude Code View this as you will

• @chrislakin Chris Lakin on x

  I'd like to know whose responsibility this was to predict in advance, whether they were feeling burned out or conflict-avoidant, and if they're getting that support now

• @adamthierer Adam Thierer on x

  Because this is happening to Anthropic, the temptation for many will be to say: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. They have relentlessly raised the regulatory temperature in Washington by inviting far-reaching controls of frontier models. They made this bed and now they have

• @benjaminmmurphy Ben Murphy on x

  Second, the lack of predictability here — evident from Anthropic's blog post — speaks to the total lack of AI policy capacity within the admin. I don't know if this is someone misunderstanding jailbreaking, or someone not trusting Anthropic, but in a functioning administration

• @edzitron.com Ed Zitron on bluesky

  Watching the AI boosters contort themselves into pretzels over this.  Some want to keep doing the Death of Stalin thing of “wow, AI is so powerful the government is scared of it,” some are straight up saying “c'mon man it's a god damn LLM” [embedded post]

• @masnick.com Mike Masnick on bluesky

  This is pure retaliation.  —  But also, comes two days after Dario's big blog post on “dear US govt, please regulate me for the safety of the American people” [embedded post]

• @isaiahbishop Isaiah Bishop on bluesky

  damn free trade would be nice [embedded post]

• @samthielman.com @samthielman.com on bluesky

  anybody else hear a loud popping noise [embedded post]

• @faineg Faine Greenwood on bluesky

  The Trump government just took Fable 5 away based on some sort of painfully dumb “security concern.”  —  come, let us at least try to finally convince the techbros to form a foaming mob

• r/cybersecurity r on reddit

  US Government Orders Suspension of Fable 5 and Mythos 5 Access

• r/BuyFromEU r on reddit

  It's time to wake up, Europe

• r/europe r on reddit

  The US government just put an export control on Anthropics newest model Fable.  EU AI Sovereignty NOW!

• r/ClaudeAI r on reddit

  Fable 5 indefinitely suspended due to national security concerns

• r/neoliberal r on reddit

  US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

• r/Futurology r on reddit

  Statement on the US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 - Anthropic

• r/pwnhub r on reddit

  US government suspends access to AI models: Fable 5 and Mythos 5, citing security concerns

• r/OpenAI r on reddit

  Anthropic says it's complying with US government order to suspend Fable 5 and Mythos 5 access over jailbreak concerns

• r/LocalLLaMA r on reddit

  Anthropic forced to abruptly disable Fable 5 & Mythos 5 globally by US Gov over a jailbreak.  This is exactly why we need local models.

• r/cursor r on reddit

  Statement on the US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

• r/LocalLLM r on reddit

  This is why we need local models

• r/opencodeCLI r on reddit

  Statement on the US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

• r/artificial r on reddit

  Anthropic suspends access to Claude Fable and Mythos for all users after US government order

• r/Anthropic r on reddit

  Statement on the US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

• r/singularity r on reddit

  US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

• r/slatestarcodex r on reddit

  US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

• r/programare r on reddit

  Statement on the US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

• r/chileIT r on reddit

  Statement on the US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

• r/ArtificialInteligence r on reddit

  Statement on the US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

• r/wallstreetbets r on reddit

  Statement on the US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5

• r/MU_Stock r on reddit

  US government force Anthropic to stop foreign access to Fable 5 and Mytho

• r/DeepStateCentrism r on reddit

  Statement on the US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 |  Anthropic

• r/technology r on reddit

  USA restricts Fable and Mythos to the world

• r/ValueInvesting r on reddit

  Is this the beginning of the end for AI stock?  US government force Anthropic to stop foreign access to Fable 5 and Mytho

• r/China_irl r on reddit

  美国政府 搞了个新活 ; ，限制了 anthropic的新模 型 …

• r/de r on reddit

  US-Regierung sperrt Anthropic-Modelle Fable 5 und Mythos 5 weltweit

• r/Conservative r on reddit

  US government issues export control, causes Claude Mythos/Fable-5 to be taken down

• r/worldnews r on reddit

  Anthropic suspends Claude Fable 5 due to US government directive

• r/SillyTavernAI r on reddit

  Statement on the US government directive to suspend access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5, SORRY ST USERS OF THIS APPARENT CYBER SECURITY RISK

• @elder_plinius @elder_plinius on x

  🚨 JAILBREAK ALERT 🚨 ANTHROPIC: PWNED 🫡 FABLE-5: LIBERATED 🦋 let's start with the 🐘... the consensus seems to be that this has been one of the most disappointing model drops of all time, effectively preventing legitimate researchers from contributing their talents to our [image]

• @mattzeitlin Matthew Zeitlin on x

  openai's government relations guy getting lutnick on the phone to say actually 5.5 is just as dangerous as mythos, if not more so, and that codex is actually easier to use and more powerful for doing bad things

• @tszzl Roon on x

  we are speedrunning creating the Zones of Thought from the Vinge universe. you will only be able to think superhuman thoughts in America

• @apples_jimmy @apples_jimmy on x

  “ and to all foreign persons within the country ” ?? Do ants own staff not get to work on this / not use it personally now lol

• @miles_brundage Miles Brundage on x

  Fascinating how quickly Commerce can move on unsubstantiated Anthropic jailbreak claims, while taking forever to deal with well-documented NVIDIA chip smuggling

• @mattyglesias Matthew Yglesias on x

  Are they specifically trying to fuck with Anthropic or is the idea to apply this to any comparably powerful models from competitors? [image]

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  I can't tell if this is lawfare against Anthropic in particular or extreme national-security hawkery. Regardless, it is simply cartoonish. [image]

• @northead Edoardo Maggio on x

  Turns out the not-a-licensing-regime looks scarily similar to, huh, a licensing regime

• @tszzl Roon on x

  people in washington trying to figure out wth “pliny the liberator” is

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  Just occurred to me that Anthropic employees who are not US persons will not be able to use Fable/Mythos, making this plausibly (and to be clear, accidentally) the first regulation on recursive self-improvement.

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  If implemented as this reporting suggests, Anthropic's latest models would be subject to export controls to all *non-Americans,* including non-American nationals based in the US. This means you should expect to have to prove your citizenship to use Anthropic models.

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  If this is true, it is just baffling. An administration whose posture is that we *should* export advanced AI chips to China, which also wants to ban... Britain (and every other non-American on Earth)... from using our best models? I have no words.

• @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x

  ❗️ Commerce's shocking decree this afternoon - which effectively shuts down Anthropic by cutting off access to Mythos 5 and Fable 5 for many of their own employees — seems both wildly overdramatic and also counterproductive for the US AI industry. I concur with @deanwball

• r/LeftistsForAI r on reddit

  Scoop: Trump admin blocks foreign access to Anthropic's most powerful AI

• r/singularity r on reddit

  Trump admin blocks foreign access to Anthropic's most powerful AI

• r/accelerate r on reddit

  Trump admin blocks foreign access to Anthropic's most powerful AI

• r/neoliberal r on reddit

  Scoop: Trump admin blocks foreign access to Anthropic's most powerful AI

• r/technology r on reddit

  US blocks foreign access to Anthropic's most advanced AI models, Axios reports

• r/news r on reddit

  US blocks foreign access to Anthropic's most advanced AI models, Axios reports

• @mgsiegler M.G. Siegler on x

  Well that didn't take long... https://spyglass.org/... [image]

• @scobleizer Robert Scoble on x

  How can Anthropic's IPO proceed in this environment?

• @vxunderground @vxunderground on x

  “Bro it's so totally badass and scary, I swear bro, like, the GOVERNMENT is censoring us bro, I swear!!! It's like, sooo hardcore bro, for real” - Anthropic on their totally real and scary product

• Rafael Laguna de la Vera Rafael Laguna de la Vera on linkedin

  Friendly reminder that tech sovereignty is not just a theoretical construct.  —  Anthropic just published: “The US government …

• @rachelcoldicutt Rachel Coldicutt on bluesky

  This a classic case study for anyone working in tech policy www.anthropic.com/news/fable- m.... I don't pretend to know anything about international trade law but there is a bunch of interesting stuff here.  🧵

• @dorialexander Alexander Doria on bluesky

  Not having any EU competitive labs (plural intended) is about to get very painful.  [embedded post]

• @fabiochiusi Fabio Chiusi on bluesky

  “the order limiting who can use Anthropic's technology is unusually expansive, and could in theory block Anthropic employees who are citizens of allied nations like Canada or Britain from working on it”  —  www.nytimes.com/2026/06/12/t...

• Vivek Singh Vivek Singh on linkedin

  Government restricting access to Fable 5 even to willing/paying parties is again a reminder of the fragility of building infra on top of closed-source, single-country-owned services. …

• @petertl Peter Thal Larsen on bluesky

  Please tell me again about how the EU stifles innovation while the US government just gets out of the way. www.reuters.com/technology/u...

• r/worldnews r on reddit

  US blocks global foreign access to Anthropic's most advanced Claude AI models over national-security risks

• @eastdakota Matthew Prince on x

  Dario and Daniela definitely should have read the copy of Aristotle's “Politics” I sent them. 🤷🏻‍♂️

• @bindureddy Bindu Reddy on x

  This is really stupid The US banned Fable just because it responded with information that is already freely available on internet!! Every other model can easily be made to respond to some silly questions about common security vulnerabilities or how to make drugs or whatever

• @zephyr_z9 @zephyr_z9 on x

  The good thing is that Fable wasn't deployed widely across enterprises and APIs since it was released just a few days ago, and the 30-day data retention policy The damage is mostly contained But, this has caused a huge ripple effect for non-US enterprises and the foreign

• @tomtugendhat Tom Tugendhat on x

  Disabling Fable 5 and other models for foreigners is not a misunderstanding or a mistake, it's the inevitable result of technology shaping warfare so that sovereignty is more about code than cannons. With high energy costs and the emphasis on safety not opportunity Britain's

• @s8mb Sam Bowman on x

  This is, perversely, good news for Britain, Australia, Japan, Europe, and other countries being cut off that would once have seen themselves as close allies of the United States. It shows us what the future may hold if AI is the strategically and economically decisive

• @kanishkanarayan Kanishka Narayan MP on x

  Access to @AnthropicAI's latest models has been paused for all customers, including in the US and UK. The main lesson: as we debate the future of national security and technological sovereignty, access to AI capabilities is crucial. That's why this Govt is the first to set up

• @willguyatt Will Guyatt on x

  This ban is intriguing... safety or someone in their ear? https://www.bbc.com/...

• @deryatr_ Derya Unutmaz on x

  Happy now, @DarioAmodei? You got your wish for government regulation after constant fearmongering to slow AI progress. @AnthropicAI has done tremendous damage to AI advancement; they succeeded in realizing this nightmare scenario. It's a sad & grave day for America & humanity.

• @gergelyorosz Gergely Orosz on x

  Well this is massive: - Every non-US company sees how they can be cut off from US vendors with a snap of a finger. Non-US vendors getting free advertisement - What does this mean for US AI labs' offices and employees outside the US? Reads pretty draconian What a mess

• Tom Peeters Tom Peeters on linkedin

  What baffles me most is not Anthropic's response.  —  It's the premise.  —  The US government reportedly decided that access to certain frontier AI models should be restricted for non-Americans. …

• Simon Seiter Simon Seiter on linkedin

  US governance just directed Anthropic to suspend any non-US customers to use Fable & Mythos 5.  Which means for you as a European: you cannot use it anymore. …

• Peter Swire Peter Swire on linkedin

  As reported, the new U.S. export control on Anthropic's Mythos is a gigantic mistake.  Perhaps the single most important use of this AI …

• Julian Kaljuvee Julian Kaljuvee on linkedin

  No more Fable 5 in the EU.  This is a sad day for me as for past 3 days I've seen dreams about Fable 5 coding on command line, and it has become an inseparable part of me. …

• Rad Kanapathipillai Rad Kanapathipillai on linkedin

  Today Anthropic disabled Fable 5 and Mythos 5 for everyone, everywhere, after the US government issued an export control directive citing national security. …

• Severi Muona Severi Muona on linkedin

  Fable 5 access suspended  —  Anthropic just announced that the US government issued an export control and because of that the Fable 5 model was suspended for all non-US users. …

• r/technology r on reddit

  Anthropic's safety warnings may have just backfired — the government has pulled the plug on its most powerful AI

• @theo @theo on x

  RIP [image]

• @yassinelanda @yassinelanda on x

  what feels like the second rug of the week, woke up to the being banned from using Fable 5... I know of Anthropic employees in London and Paris that also lost access... It's not like we could use Fable 5 for frontier model development (they have been shadow-reprompting our [image…

• @corkill_jason Jason Corkill on x

  Whats is worse? EU: AI Act, if your model is trained with 10^25 Flops of compute you need to fill in some paperwork. US: If you model was trained with 10^26 Flops of compute we will shut down your companies flagship product weeks before IPO with no warning.

• @gailcweiner Gail Weiner on x

  The people who actually build frontier AI are disproportionately foreign nationals. Karpathy, Askell, half of every research org. The signal “we will lock you out of the models you ship” is a recruitment disaster. Every top researcher in London, Toronto, Zurich just got a

• @fakepsyho @fakepsyho on x

  This is the craziest part btw - it could pretty much paralyze the whole company. When I worked at OpenAI, the share of non-US nationals among researchers was 40-60%. I would expect that number to be very similar today. [image]

• @alltheyud Eliezer Yudkowsky on x

  I can't tell today whether this ends up good or bad. International treaties to stop all further AI escalation would be a definite good! Things short of that? Complicated! This has some bad aspects, like selectivity, and likely overrule. And good aspects, like pushing against

• @jspujji Jesse Pujji on x

  This is a huge moment. It changes the trajectory and might break the economics propping up the AI bubble: 1/ This slows everything down and hands China the gap. Feels like the first in a new series of frictions on this graph of uninterrupted progress. And the market is

• @jun_song Jun Song on x

  What people are missing about the US government's AI regulation announcement: ID verification will now be forced on all accounts to prove citizenship. Frontier labs will take your data, and your sovereignty is officially dead. A permanent underclass division and a total

• @willmanidis Will Manidis on x

  Dario (48 hours ago): “US gov should be able to block model deployment” USG: *export controls models* Dario: “not like that” [image]

• @paraschopra Paras Chopra on x

  I wonder how Anthropic researchers and engineers who aren't US citizens but were on the Fable team would be feeling right now. They can't access the very thing they helped create.

• @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x

  Wait - so Amazon, one of Anthropic's biggest investors, allegedly jailbroke Claude and then snitched to the U.S. government? This cant be real. What.

• @theo @theo on x

  Wall Street Journal is reporting that Amazon reported the jailbreaks to the Department of Commerce, who instituted the ban [image]

• r/news r on reddit

  US government suspend access to Anthropic's Fable 5 and Mythos 5

• @deredleritt3r Prinz on x

  Parsing this evening's events: - The U.S. government approved the release of Fable 5 to the public, clearly under the presumption that the model's cybersecurity capabilities cannot be accessed by hackers, authoritarian regimes, etc. - Recently (today?), “another company” showed […

• @kateruane Kate Ruane on bluesky

  To be clear, this is an order to depublish speech based on vague and unsupported “national security” concerns.  We have seen this before.  It wasn't justified then and it's not justified now.  The fact that it's a new technology does not change the analysis.  —  www.anthropic.com…

• @_nathancalvin Nathan Calvin on x

  Statement from DoW CIO confirming the announcement from Anthropic on pulling Fable. “Some things are more important than revenue cycles, clickbait, and pre-IPO valuation” Also seems to attribute the decision to Secretary of War Hegseth. [image]

• @timkellogg.me Tim Kellogg on bluesky

  Amazon researchers snitched to the US government about a jailbreak that triggered a letter forcing Anthropic to shut down Fable 5  —  www.wsj.com/tech/ai/anth...  [image]

• @karlbode.com Karl Bode on bluesky

  remember the absolute hissy fits industry threw about Lina Khan's “over reach”  —  pepperidge farm remembers

• @edzitron Ed Zitron on x

  This is so wild. Deliberate strategic move by Amazon? Or Mr. Bean style goofiness that cuts weirdly with the scaremongering marketing campaign? Who knows!

• @anistotle_ @anistotle_ on x

  @edzitron How many times do I have to tell you people to heed the words of DJ Khaled. No new friends!!!

• @quinnypig Corey Quinn on x

  @edzitron I maintain that this is doing Anthropic a favor.

• @k8em0 Katie Moussouris on bluesky

  I've seen the paper.  It's not a jailbreak.  It was Defense Oriented Prompting (DOP) - a capability defenders need.  My thoughts about the hasty Export Controls that made Anthropic halt access to Fable.  If national defense is the goal, this is an own goal against us  —  www.wsj.…

• @teroterotero Tero Kuittinen on x

  I can't say I saw this coming. But I do know now that AI companies will be nationalized in America & Trump family will control access to the emerging, weakly godlike entities. This is the darkest path for humanity.

• @thezvi Zvi Mowshowitz on x

  There is only one way and Anthropic did it.

• @polymarketmoney @polymarketmoney on x

  JUST IN: Andrej Karpathy, a top AI scientist at Anthropic, is reportedly barred from accessing the company's most advanced AI model because he is not a U.S. citizen. [image]

• @krispuckett Kris Puckett on x

  @petergyang KYC coming for all models I bet. Valid US ID. Surely this won't hold up in court, right??

• @petergyang Peter Yang on x

  Suspending Fable for all “foreign person inside the US” is wild. How can you even enforce this properly?

• @ruoshuiresearch Ruo Shui on bluesky

  “Several key Anthropic personnel, including co-founder Chris Olah, AI researcher Andrej Karpathy and philosopher Amanda Askell, were born outside the United States”

• @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x

  It was in fact Amazon (CEO Andy Jassy) who reportedly helped trigger the Claude shutdown. Via The Information Amazon CEO Andy Jassy reportedly warned senior Trump administration officials about security risks in Anthropic's newest Claude models, helping trigger late-night export …

• @edzitron Ed Zitron on x

  Is Amazon trying to kill Anthropic

• @steph_palazzolo Stephanie Palazzolo on x

  Breaking: Amazon CEO Andy Jassy was among the tech leaders who raised concerns to senior Trump officials this week re: security risks in Anthropic's newest models. Those convos set in motion the government's new export controls on foreign national access to Mythos and Fable. [ima…

• @davidsacks David Sacks on x

  I've had a number of conversations with folks inside and outside government about the current situation with Anthropic, and here is what I believe to be true: — As we know, Anthropic publicly released its Mythos class models earlier this week under the commercial name Fable.

• @miles_brundage Miles Brundage on x

  The admin is going to keep leaking all sorts of details that make it sound, to a casual reader, like this was a reasonable decision. But there has been zero indicating that domain experts at CAISI or NSA were involved - all reporting points to “senior White House officials.”

• @amasad Amjad Masad on x

  Feels like we're getting psyoped. The end-game here is something bigger.

• Yann LeCun Yann LeCun on linkedin

  Dario Amodei's ridiculous fear mongering about Mythos/Fable (and AI in general) finally pays off:  —  The US government bans its use by non Americans, *including by foreign employees in the US* …

• @deryatr_ Derya Unutmaz on x

  This will go down as the greatest irony in the age of AI. Not one of these employees said anything in our defense, except to be condescending, when we couldn't even say “cancer” to Fable 5, considering us a biosecurity risk. Maybe they regret it now & I still feel sorry for them.

• @tolgabilge_ Tolga Bilge on x

  Spare a thought for the AI companies which might have access to less talent to put towards racing to build a technology their own CEOs say could literally wipe us out.

• @martin_casado @martin_casado on x

  The government should not be regulating AI to this extent. Not like this. I've been against onerous regs when Anthropic and the safety community was pushing for it. And I'm against it now that they got what they asked for.

• @nabeelqu Nabeel S. Qureshi on x

  No. The simple fact is that once you wake up Leviathan, it is not always going to behave the way you want it to. It can arbitrary and capricious. Urging regulation *only in this specific way* was never a good strategy.

• @repjoshg Rep Josh Gottheimer on x

  This is why we need a concrete system in place to ensure the world's most powerful AI models are being vetted and cleared as safe before they're released. We're in a Cold War with China on AI. We have to win, but we have to win the right way. Purely voluntary processes clearly

• @alexfmac Alex Macdonald on x

  The UK (and any aspiring global power) needs: 1. Sovereign foundational models (by nurturing home-grown AI winners) 2. Sovereign data centres 3. Energy independence Without all 3 we are an empty vassal state at the whims of the US / China in the future. Unlike many other

• @hackingdave Dave Kennedy on x

  Sooooo Mythos is basically gpt 5.5 but it was so dangerous it could create an apocalypse with nuclear weapons and rip through computer systems as we know it today 🤔

• @_nathancalvin Nathan Calvin on x

  Some quick takes: (1) Wow things are getting real. (2) The government's order focusing on prohibiting transfer to foreign nationals (even e.g. those living in the US, our close allies who help evaluate model safety in the UK, individuals who work at frontier labs like

• @levie Aaron Levie on x

  This whole Fable export control situation is actually net positive to regulation discourse. It's an early peek into what AI regulation would end up looking like at scale when enacted at the model layer instead of the specific application of the AI. The government would have sole

• @shakeelhashim Shakeel on x

  The “this is what Anthropic asked for” take is stupid and wrong. [image]

• @mark_k Mark Kretschmann on x

  Yann LeCun (LeBased) weighs in on the @AnthropicAI debacle. I have to say I agree with 100% with Yann here. “One reaps what one sows.” 👏 [image]

• @zeynep Zeynep Tufekci on x

  Is there the *slightest* case that Fable poses a risk different from what's readily available through other models? Open to being convinced but I don't see any meaningful difference? (Not asking what people who wrote the order believe. I'm wondering if there is *any* case).

• @zastocks @zastocks on x

  Anthropic made a generational mistake. Framing AI as a technology that's going to take everyone's jobs, create cyber weapons, enable autonomous warfare, etc. instead of curing disease and helping humans do more is one of the most unforced errors I've ever seen. How difficult

• @alistaircarns Al Carns on x

  This week the most advanced AI model on the planet got switched off by a foreign government. British researchers were studying it. British companies were testing it. British hospitals were piloting it. Not any more. This isn't an AI story. It's the story of every industry we

• @daveshapi David Shapiro on x

  The silence from Sam and Elon (and everyone else leading AI labs) on Anthropic tells you a lot. When the Pentagon cracked down on Anthropic, the rest of the squad said “that's setting a bad precedent” But their silence this time around means they're all watching a FAFO

• @tunguz Bojan Tunguz on x

  AI was ONE huge export product that the US absolutely dominated over the past few years. Now we are facing the prospect of completely and utterly sabotaging it.

• @intcyberdigest @intcyberdigest on x

  Dear US government, Since you've just blocked Fable and Mythos on critical national security grounds, here are some other tools that pose a similar threat to the American people: - Microsoft Teams - SAP - Salesforce - Jira - Outlook Please do what you must to save America 🇺🇸

• @anton_d_leicht Anton Leicht on x

  The Fable decision is fundamentally a domestic US policy mess, and it seems likely to resolve itself, albeit chaotically. For middle powers, it's a tempting starting point for ill-conceived ‘sovereign’ AI takes, but I think the right move is to let it blow over and buy more time.

• @fredrikhjelm4 Fredrik Hjelm on x

  Spot on from @gabriel1 (Swedish AI researcher/founder at the frontier). Countries like Sweden are AI users, not owners. If the US restricts frontier access, we could regress fast. Three paths: 1. Go all-in on sovereign models + compute (brutal but independent) 2. Stay

• @synthwavedd Leo on x

  🚨 The Trump Administration tried to get Anthropic to pause the release of Fable but was unsuccessful, per a US government official The model “needs to remain locked down” until the US security apparatus is hardened, they said, and that this “could happen in the next few weeks” [i…

• @ddkang Daniel Kang on x

  In March 2024, I gave a presentation to Senate staffers with two simple claims: 1) AI agents were going to be incredibly capable at cyber offensive tasks and 2) there were no possible protections against jailbreaks. Throughout 2024 and 2025 I've repeated those claims. I [image]

• @garrytan Garry Tan on x

  I wish the significance of the model came from more people actually using it and coming to their own conclusions But yes most people in the world learn about it through signifiers and not through interacting with that which is signified

• @mark_k Mark Kretschmann on x

  I'll be the first to say it: Dario needs to be ejected from Anthropic. He and his gang of Effective Altruists have spent years spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt. The oldest trick in the book: FUD. Now Anthropic is paying the price, and Dario needs to take responsibility for …

• @michuk @michuk on x

  This is dangerous for Europe. We should act super fast & together. Our best chance is all hands on board to accelerate @MistralAI, the only European company that has models on nearly the same level than the US and Chinese leaders. All European national sovereign funds should

• @villi @villi on x

  This order is truly nuts. I can only explain it as politically motivated, which is so bizarre. And I can't see a possible way for Anthropic to release Mythos/Fable 5 and comply with this order. Are they supposed to do KYC on their users? Insane!

• @alexfinn Alex Finn on x

  Fable 5 was the greatest piece of technology I've ever used. I deeply miss it Solved problems I never thought AI could solve Finished months of projects in days Had a lovely personality I now know what those freaks crying about GPT 4o being taken away feel like

• @shashj Shashank Joshi on x

  Remarkable line from vice chair of senate intel committee, even if it's an exaggeration.

• @christianreber Christian Reber on x

  Europe is sleepwalking into irrelevance and desperately needs to become a free continent again. While the US and China accelerate into the age of AI, robotics, biotech, autonomy and space, Europe is limiting freedom, innovation, and prosperity for its citizens. AI is the most

• @nixxin Nikhil Pahwa on x

  I was using Fable to improve security for my apps and when it suddenly stopped working. It's only on twitter that I found out that it has been stopped for people who are not US nationals, by the US government. Here's how I'm seeing this: 1. Fable comes with security safeguards

• @dkthomp Derek Thompson on x

  The Trump admin continues to treat AI like a screwdriver that is also enriched uranium: That is, apparently advanced AI is such a normal technology that it's crazy to limit chip exports to China but also such an abnormal technology that we can't let British employees of NYC

• @rihardjarc Rihard Jarc on x

  A few thoughts that come up from this suspension of Fable/Mythos: 1. Even if this decision is changed the move set a precedence. Investors investing in AI model providers will start to price for this risk. The idea of one company monopolizing and developing “digital god” and

• @raoulgmi Raoul Pal on x

  Anthropic has been publicly forced to bend the knee to the US government. The ban on Fable and Mythos reads like censorship, and the market will read it as the TAM of the frontier labs collapsing. Instead, I read this as the opposite, as an acceleration event... The government

• @ciaranm Ciaran Martin on bluesky

  A development of profound importance.  Very few thought the US Gov't, for all its current unpredictability, would try to weaponise its AI against allies as well as foes.  That it's been done in a clunky & unsustainable way doesn't matter long term - they've done it  —  www.anthro…

• @deredleritt3r Prinz on x

  @daniel_mac8 Amazon discovered a vulnerability that it believes is very serious. Amazon's legal was asked to opine on what to do. Amazon's legal opined that this must be disclosed to the USG. Alternatively, Amazon's legal opined that this *could* be disclosed to the USG, and comp…

• @daniel_mac8 Dan McAteer on x

  I don't like the smell of this. I remind you that Amazon: 1. Invested $13B in Anthropic 2. Is due $100B in committed AWS spend over the next decade from Anth What's the Occam's Razor explanation? Is Andy Jassy just that virtuous? Doubt it. [image]

• @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x

  1. WOW! Amazon is going to get some hate for this. 2. before judging myself I would love to know more about the nature and gravity of the exploits, and why these specific models were singled out, given that all LLMs are vulnerable.

• @zephyr_z9 @zephyr_z9 on x

  Jassy was snitching DAYUM

• @shakeelhashim Shakeel on x

  Sounds like Sean Cairncross was a lead decision maker here: https://www.theinformation.com/ ... [image]

• @aparker.io @aparker.io on bluesky

  we can't underestimate the possibility that this was a move by Amazon to prevent tokenmaxxing devs from bankrupting the company with fable usage  —  www.wsj.com/tech/ai/amaz...

• @peark.es George Pearkes on bluesky

  Andy Jassy a low key rat I see.  [image]

• r/ClaudeCode r on reddit

  Amazon CEO's Talks With U.S. Officials, Triggered Crackdown on Anthropic Model Fable 5

• r/singularity r on reddit

  Amazon CEO's Talks With U.S. Officials, Triggered Crackdown on Anthropic Model Fable 5

• r/ClaudeAI r on reddit

  Amazon CEO Andy Jassy Reportedly Raised Concerns About Anthropic's AI Models Before Fable 5 Was Restricted

• @thomasschulzz Thomas Schulz on x

  tldr: - anthropic asks to be regulated - 3rd party finds jailbreak - USG asks Anthropic to fix it - Dario says no - USG bewildered, puts export control - anthropic pulls model anthropic promotes ai safety as their brand but won't fix a security vulnerability???

• @levie Aaron Levie on x

  If you're ever wondered what AI regulation will look like if implemented, this is de facto what to expect on the current trajectory. If the government has control over what models eventually get released, then companies will spend months and months debating with the government

• @arjunram Arjun Ram on x

  “The Admin asked Dario to fix the jailbreak or de-deploy the model. Dario refused. — In their blog post, Anthropic defended its decision by saying the jailbreak isn't serious” we need regulation but we will decide how we react to this? You can't have it both ways

• @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x

  Crazy to see previously antiregulatory people suddenly fine with government shutdown of a company's showcase product with zero public transparency. Absent bipartisan and independent scientific oversight, the approach outlined below leaves (a) the government with too much room

• @robj3d3 Rob Hallam on x

  Update on the Fable 5 situation: > Fable is basically a powerful “cyberweapon” model with safety locks on it > Someone found a way to pick those locks > The government asked Anthropic to fix it or pull the model > Anthropic said no and called the problem minor > So the

• @chamath Chamath Palihapitiya on x

  If a Treasurer of a Fortune 1000 company kept all of their cash in one bank they'd be fired for incompetence. Similarly, if the leadership of a Fortune 1000 company bets the farm on only one frontier lab and their models you're taking a lot of risk. This risk compounds as the

• @jrysana John on x

  Impressive and nuanced reply from David here. I respect it. I hope everything he's saying is true and if so I guess all the alarm overnight on here is maybe not so necessary.

• @shakeelhashim Shakeel on x

  If this is true — big if — it mostly just exposes the need for an independent authority that can determine whether AI models are actually dangerous or not. Stuff this high stakes cannot be decided by an argument between Anthropic and Amazon.

• @scobleizer Robert Scoble on x

  “The ball is in Anthropic's court.”

• @benpielstick Ben Pielstick on x

  It seems very likely to me that the non-compliance on the part of Anthropic the government perceives and is confused by from a safety-focused company, is because the government doesn't understand that what they're asking for is stupid and/or impossible.

• @gmoneynft @gmoneynft on x

  Some clarity here

• @yuchenj_uw Yuchen Jin on x

  Anthropic called Mythos dangerous in its own safety statement. That statement is now the reason Fable 5 got banned by the US gov. Surprisingly, “Dario refused.” [image]

• @freespeech_ai John Coleman on x

  As a standalone issue, this has all the trappings of a free speech issue, not just a national security one. Everyone's access to an expressive tool was shut down by a letter from a government official.

• @martin_casado @martin_casado on x

  “The Admin asked Dario to fix the jailbreak or de-deploy the model. Dario refused. — In their blog post, Anthropic defended its decision by saying the jailbreak isn't serious. ” This is crazy. What are we even doing here?

• @andrewcurran_ Andrew Curran on x

  David Sacks: [image]

• @sundeep Sunny Madra on x

  Thank you for sharing @DavidSacks

• @budowich Taylor Budowich on x

  Anthropic developed what they defined as a cyber weapon, Mythos. Then they released Mythos to the world as “Fable.” The same model, but with guardrails to allow its commercial deployment. When the guardrails failed, they rejected calls to patch the vulnerabilities. Dario is

• @drelidavid Dr. Eli David on x

  White House AI czar explains the Fable ban 👇 Anthropic f*cked around and found out.

• @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x

  Interesting: According to David Sacks' opinion, the fault lies with Anthropic (specifically CEO Dario Amodei). He argues that: • Anthropic released Fable (Mythos with guardrails) but refused the U.S. government's reasonable request to fix a confirmed jailbreak that could

• @pstasiatech Paul Triolo on x

  The Admin's hope now is that Anthropic remediates the safety issue, the export control is lifted, and Fable goes back into general release. The Admin wants all of this to happen as soon as possible. It is frankly bewildered that Anthropic hasn't wanted to comply with safety

• @sriramk Sriram Krishnan on x

  On everyone asking about the events of the last 24 hours 👇

• @jason @jason on x

  Note: if users know in advance that they are being monitored during a test period, and they opt into that test, that's a private company's right — obviously. And this is actually standard practice in many fields. User can opt out of the testing period and just use the last

• @thechiefnerd @thechiefnerd on x

  David Sacks on How Anthropic is Ironically Running Surveillance on Their Latest Models “This is the company that said that it was against government surveillance. They are now retaining for 30 days every prompt and every output you send to one of these Mythos class models.” [vide…

• @self.agency Daniel Sieradski on bluesky

  is there more to the story here than just export controls as retaliation?  or is this just part of the a.i. hype cycle, creating a national security incident to fabulize the world-changing power of a.i. and the advancement of the u.s. in that arena?  if our govt weren't crooks, w…

• @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x

  Where is the US with respect to AI policy? It's a mess. Let's start with Trump's Executive Order from June 2, and then turn to last night's Commerce order; neither gets things right. It's fantastic that Trump has issued an executive order that encourages AI companies to do some

• r/europe r on reddit

  Anthropic Blocks Foreigners From Using Mythos and Fable AI

• @gregisenberg Greg Isenberg on x

  The takeaway from Fable 5 being BANNED by the government: GET GOOD AT LOCAL MODELS SO YOU HAVE 100% CONTROL. My entire weekend was going to be building my craziest ideas with Fable 5. That's now cancelled. So instead of building with Fable this weekend, I've decided I'll go

• @nxthompson @nxthompson on x

  Here is the gov's argument. Hard to evaluate whether the concern is justified—or just politics toward an American company this government often whacks—without the specifics of the jailbreak. Also not clear why they chose to regulate via a blunt and hard-to-follow export control.

• @jujulemons Julia Willemyns on x

  The UK commentariat will spend this week deluded about the Anthropic situation. “It's just Trump.” “It's a one-off.” “We can build our own.” “We don't want or need crappy American AI anyway.” None of it holds up. US has been using AI as a geopolitical lever since 2022. Chip

• @antirez @antirez on x

  What Europe should do right now: 1. Call all the European researchers working on AI and return them back with same salary (or they can stay but switch career). 2. Fill EU places having GPUs with money, and put those people there. 3. AI partnerships with China + India.

• @geertwilderspvv Geert Wilders on x

  I want my #Anthropic Claude Fable 5 back! We must excellerate building our own. AI is more and more national sovereignty. [image]

• @alistairpullen Alistair on x

  This is exactly why we @CosineAI are using the compute provided to us by @UKSovereignAI to build a large frontier model trained in Britain. This export control is the first instance of it's kind but, I think it's going to become increasingly common as the models improve.

• @radiodeadair.com Nash on bluesky

  The only reason Anthropic would willingly go along with this instead of running to the courts is that the US government is giving them more money than letting regular customers use this model could provide.  —  Remember, Anthropic is desperate for profitability.  Their IPO looms.…

• r/Anthropic r on reddit

  Anthropic Says It's Taking Claude Fable 5 Offline to Comply With US Government Order

• @quinnypig Corey Quinn on x

  I guess if Amazon can't win at AI, no one can?

• @autismcapital @autismcapital on x

  David Sacks claims that Anthropic was alerted to a jailbreak exploit that the USG asked them to patch and Dario Amodei refused, leading the USG to ban access to the Mythos class models. Why refuse to patch the exploit?

• @semianalysis_ @semianalysis_ on x

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• @apompliano Anthony Pompliano on x

  This post by @DavidSacks about the Anthropic/Fable situation is noteworthy, but not for the reason most people think. Put the details aside for a second. Anthropic released a blog post with their side of the story a few hours ago. David is responding with a bullet point list in

• r/AllinPod r on reddit

  David Sacks On Fable Restriction