Initial benchmarks show iPhone 13's A15 chip offers a roughly 15% improvement for GPU performance and 10%-18% improvement for CPU performance over A14
Earlier today, we reported on a Geekbench Metal result for the iPhone 13 Pro showing an approximately 55% graphics performance improvement compared to the iPhone 12 Pro.
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Discussion
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@universeice
@universeice
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Apple A15 Geekbench score, only one word left to Android: despair. https://twitter.com/...
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@jeffnolan
Jeff Nolan
on x
“I really wish my phone had a faster processor” said no one. Focus on experiences, not numbers. The screen is easier to read in direct sun, the battery lasts longer, games are smoother. This is what matters to users. https://twitter.com/...
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@reneritchie
Rene Ritchie
on x
Specs are increasingly toxic. (For customers *and* vendors.) Don't focus on numbers. Focus on experiences delivered. Semi trucks 🚛 having more wheels than hyper cars 🏎 isn't a helpful spec absent context. What capabilities does it deliver now, how long will it get updates? https:…
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@halidecamera
Halide
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Evolution. #iPhone13 https://twitter.com/...
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@bzamayo
Benjamin Mayo
on x
Why no always-on on iPhone 13 Pro ... this may be why: In the presentation, Joz says the iPhone screen can go as low as 10Hz. However, the Apple Watch screen refreshes at 1Hz in always-on mode. https://twitter.com/...
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@sdw
Sebastiaan de With
on x
Seems odd that the new iPhone 13 / 13 Pro doesn't have an option to show battery percentage now that the notch is smaller. In my quick design explorations, it seems there's enough room for a variety of solutions. Would be a nice thing to add in an iOS 15 update! https://twitter.c…
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@bochipev
Bo Chipev
on x
@daveyheuser @sdw Hard no. Imagine telling a driver he doesn't need to see how much gas he has “because the car is good”.
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@saschasegan
Sascha Segan
on x
Good catch: @mikeddano points out the new iPhone 13 models do not have the frequency bands for Dish's putative upcoming 5G network. https://www.lightreading.com/ ...
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@the_chobbar
Deep Dhiman
on x
Just iPhone things 😂 #AppleEvent https://twitter.com/...
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@mattmahvi
Matt Mahvi
on x
@Techmeme @JonPorty But isn't this WHY we love Apple? Because they're iterative, slow, and deliberate. Their tech ecosystem works amazing.
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@bengeskin
Ben Geskin
on x
iPhone 13 Pro Max is sooo wide and sooo heavy 😕 It's 78.1 mm in width and weighs 240 grams. OnePlus 9 Pro with the same 6.7" size display is 73.6 mm and 197 grams.
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@universeice
@universeice
on x
In addition, please tell Samsung's software development department that please replace a system animation matching 120Hz in One UI 4. It's too bad to compete with iOS 15 https://twitter.com/...
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@universeice
@universeice
on x
Don't ridicule iPhone 13, Samsung price of $ 1,000 Flip3 has the smallest camera main sensor (1 / 2.55) and the slowest charge (15W), even the iPhone 13 mini is stronger than it. → A person who likes to tell the truth.
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@duraidabdul
Duraid Abdul
on x
@sdw Apple actually has an internal property on the status bar's battery view called showsPercentage, and toggling it true does this. They just choose to make it unavailable as a setting! https://twitter.com/...
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@jon_prosser
Jon Prosser
on x
Media / press will receive iPhone 13 and iPad mini on Friday. Embargo for both (next week): iPhone 13 - Tuesday, Sept 21 9:00am EST iPad mini - Wednesday, Sept 22 9:00am EST Be on the look out for videos on those days 👀
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@copprart
Arthur Seabra
on x
@sdw There's a reason why @apple doesn't show battery percentages on main anymore, and it's not design constrain, it's a psychological one. To a significant # of people, the more you see your battery drain, the less they use their phone. Which doesn't align with most company's go…
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@aschilling
Andreas Schilling
on x
Can we please get this for the iPhone 12 too? Percentage inside the battery icon should be possible here. https://twitter.com/...
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@duraidabdul
Duraid Abdul
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@sdw It looks like this in dark mode https://twitter.com/...
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@letter_to_jack
@letter_to_jack
on x
Apple have been milking people since they released the iphone 11. $1,000 per year for three straight years for exactly the same phone. This is slavery.
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@unclepamilerin
Pamilerin Adegoke
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Thinking about it, you can't tell the difference between the iPhone 12 and 13. So we continue using 12 till they change the design. May switch from series 6 to 7
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@universeice
@universeice
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Samsung used 120Hz earlier, but so far Samsung only has a 2K + 120Hz phone S21 ultra with high ppi, which is also very conservative. In this sense, there are two high 460 ppi 120Hz phones for iPhone 13 pro and Max, which are more than Samsung. https://twitter.com/...
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@markgurman
Mark Gurman
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iPhone 13 cases from Apple have started arriving https://twitter.com/...
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@thebeeinghuman
@thebeeinghuman
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#iPhone13 The only difference in iPhone 13 is the word “NEW”😂😂😂 PEOPLE WHO BUY IPHONEs ARE MORONS!!! https://twitter.com/...
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@iupdate
Sam Kohl
on x
Wait I just realized the iPhone 13 doesn't have an always-on display WHY???
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@bengeskin
Ben Geskin
on x
@iupdate I guess it's because this new ProMotion OLED goes down to 10Hz and not to 1Hz like Apple Watch... But I still think that this is just lazy Apple
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@bzamayo
Benjamin Mayo
on x
Regardless of whether the hardware can technically support it, I personally don't expect always-on to appear as part of iOS 16. It feels like a typical feature that Apple would reserve for a future hardware generation.
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@ahmedmortada
Ahmed Mortada
on x
iPhone 13 = iPhone 12 😏 👎
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@whatthebit
Stefan Constantine
on x
I feel like the internet would've been a lot kinder to these phones if they were called the 12S and not the 13. https://twitter.com/...
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@harshjain85
Harsh Jain
on x
The new iPhone 13 is AMAZING!!! The best feature they've launched is time travel because of Covid. As soon as you buy it you'll feel like you've gone back 2 years to pre-Covid when you were holding the iPhone 11
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@daveyheuser
Davey Heuser
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@sdw If the battery is good, you don't need the battery percentage to be visible at all times (imo)
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@drbarnard
David Barnard
on x
Daaaaang! I wasn't paying close attention during the event yesterday. The iPhone 13 Pro camera assembly is massive. Looking forward to reading about how much better this performs in real world shooting. https://twitter.com/...
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@jeffwpa
Jeff P.
on x
@sdw The percentage just causes anxiety. Start a game at 86%, get off the game at 79%, anxiety kicks in stress stress stress. Best to embrace the uncertainty
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@rsgnl
Joe Rossignol
on x
This certainly makes sense. - The transition to mini-LED is still in progress across Macs and iPads. We don't even have a Mac with mini-LED yet (hopefully next month...) - Waiting for 120Hz panels for ProMotion consistency across iPhone Pro, iPad Pro, and MacBook Pro?
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@daringfireball
Daring Fireball
on x
★ Various Single-Paragraph Thoughts and Observations Regarding Yesterday's ‘California Streaming’ Apple Event for the iPhones 13, Apple Watch Series 7, and New iPads https://daringfireball.net/...
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@blackcommanick
Nick Black
on x
Interesting. At least for Verizon, using the Apple iPhone Upgrade Program - the iPhone 13 series will NOT ship with a physical SIM and will have an eSIM. @MacRumors @9to5mac @markgurman https://twitter.com/...
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@searls
Justin Searls
on x
iPhone 13 supports dual eSIM registration. https://twitter.com/...
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@dylan522p
Dylan Patel
on x
A15 is a 7.6% ST increase with 8% clock increase. CPU architecture looks mostly the same, but with new MMU and nested virtualization. https://browser.geekbench.com/ ... https://browser.geekbench.com/ ...
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@nerdtechgasm
@nerdtechgasm
on x
Tech community not impressed by Apple's new iPhone due to lacklustre CPU gains on A15.. (same node, +GPU +ML perf) Me: Battery lasts 2x longer on a single charge? Impressive.
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@dylan522p
Dylan Patel
on x
A15 in the iPhone 13 Pro has a 55% increase on GPU vs A14 in iPhone 12 Pro. CPU caches are unchanged, but clock went up to 3.23GHz from 3GHz. Doubt there's much of an IPC increase. The 32MB LLC and potential inclusion of LPDDR5 doing big work in GPU. https://browser.geekbench.com…
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@dylan522p
Dylan Patel
on x
@reneritchie ... You really can't read. Maybe don't subtweet when you don't understand the first thing about semiconductors. https://twitter.com/...
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@dcominottim
@dcominottim
on x
What a crappy announcement of the A15. Is Apple finally hitting strong the IPC wall? Brain drain after key top architects and designers left for NUVIA and others? #SiliconGang
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@slightlylate
Alex Russell
on x
@CydeWeys If the continued increase in system cache size is true, I am keyed to think the hand-wringing about low net perf wins on A-series SoCs may be overwrought...Apple's always been able to win speed by moving data closer to the core.
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@benbajarin
Ben Bajarin
on x
@dylan522p They put those resources in other areas of the design. And the meta point is its much less about CPU these days and more about the heterogenous solution. To say it is because the team is weakened is just not true. We can debate other reasons but that's not it.
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@dylan522p
Dylan Patel
on x
@BenBajarin CPU engineers don't magically flip over to other teams and architectures. The article talks about heterogenous, yes. The team is certainly weakened due to Nuvia and not Rivos departures. Can't the >100 engineers who have left.
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@hkanji
Hussein Kanji
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With Intel design teams starting to get back on track, AMD executing almost flawlessly, and Qualcomm coming in soon like a hammer with Nuvia cores, we aren't sure if Apple's lead will be sustained https://semianalysis.substack.com/ ...
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@benbajarin
Ben Bajarin
on x
@dylan522p This was less about struggling and more about being second gen 5nm, essentially no process gains. The pattern when jumping to a new process is generally 20% perf gains so wouldn't expect much if staying on same process as they are.
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@dylan522p
Dylan Patel
on x
@BenBajarin Process node isn't what dictates CPU architecture. It helps a bit on power and clocks, sure but it isn't the main reason. Apple's lead comes from architecture. They have the transistor budget to change the architecture and get more gains. They didn't use it on the CPU…
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@reneritchie
Rene Ritchie
on x
There are some hilariously bad A15 hot takes making the silicon sub stack rounds. I'm working on a video, but it'll take a while. In the meantime, I look forward to reading @BenBajarin @anandtech, and others who understand how transistor budgets can be spent across features...
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@suka_hiroaki
Andreas Proschofsky
on x
Apple was really good in hiding it yesterday but it seems like the A15 in the iPhone 13 is not going to have any gains in CPU performance compared to the A14. Which is quite a surprise given Apple's steady progress during the last few years https://semianalysis.substack.com/ ...
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@gartenberg
Michael Gartenberg
on x
“it makes me wonder if Apple is perhaps trying to soft-pedal a new chip that isn't much faster than the older model” Apple doesn't say (or omit) things without much thought https://www.macworld.com/...
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@lelesocho
Gabriele
on x
Unprecedented in the whole history of iPhone, it wouldn't be concerning usually since they didn't change the process node... but that did happen in the past and still had CPU gains even on the same node. Apple chip supremacy potentially ending, ironic now that they are on Mac too…
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@mistertechblog
@mistertechblog
on x
“We believe #Apple had to delay the next generation CPU core due to all the personnel turnover Apple has been experiencing” https://semianalysis.substack.com/ ...
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@saschasegan
Sascha Segan
on x
iPhone 13: A15 processor has 2 fast, 4 efficiency cores. Claim 50% faster than “competition” (aka Snapdragon 888.) 4-core GPU, claim 30% faster than competition #AppleEvent
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@richontech
Rich DeMuro
on x
“Frankly, the competition is still playing catch up to our chips. Not just from last year, but from two years ago” Says Apple as they introduce the new A15 Bionic chip #AppleEvent https://twitter.com/...
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@tomsguide
@tomsguide
on x
All the little details about the #A15Bionic from the presentation. Apple's comparing it vs the competition and not the iPhone 12, which is interesting. Wonder what the year vs year upgrades are. #AppleEvent https://twitter.com/...
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@stshank
Stephen Shankland
on x
The new A15 Bionic processor has 15 billion transistors and gets new AI and graphics abilities for better performance shooting photos and running apps, Apple says at #AppleEvent. https://www.cnet.com/...
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@kevinctofel
Kevin C. Tofel
on x
Think I'll be sticking with my iPhone 12. 15 billion transistors in the 13 sounds nice but I can get by with as few at 10 or 11 billion. https://www.apple.com/...