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North Dakota state Senate blocks bill that would have required app stores to allow devs to use their own payment systems; Epic lobbied in favor of the bill

- The North Dakota state senate voted 36-11 on Tuesday not to pass a bill that would have required app stores to enable software developers …

CNBC Kif Leswing

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  • @jacknicas Jack Nicas on x
    Breaking: The North Dakota senate just voted down the bill that would've banned Apple and Google from taking a cut of app sales from firms in the state. Arizona and Georgia are considering similar bills, which are attracting intense lobbying on all sides. https://www.nytimes.com/…
  • @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x
    North Dakota's effort to combat app store monopolies is awesome for consumers and developers. The Coalition for App Fairness organized the outreach, lobbying, and developer participation. Can't take credit for it, but Epic is proud to be a part of it! https://appleinsider.com/...
  • @jny Josh Young on x
    I've long thought that there's a neoliberal efficient markets-type argument to be made that Apple shouldn't take a cut of app revenue because having more apps enables it to sell more phones https://twitter.com/...
  • @rsgnl Joe Rossignol on x
    @dhh You think Apple is behind those comments? Is that legal?
  • @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x
    There's some strange stuff in today's articles. Guesswork presented as facts. Engadget with the subtitle “The bill opens the possibility of circumventing trusted payment methods”? Like Visa, Paypal and Stripe are untrusted without Apple gatekeeping? https://www.engadget.com/...
  • @jacknicas Jack Nicas on x
    The vote in North Dakota was 36 senators against the bill, 11 for it. Arizona, Georgia and Massachusetts are now considering similar legislation, which is being pushed by Epic Games and its group, @appfairness: https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @kifleswing Kif on x
    State senators avoided saying “Apple.” One said, instead, think of “the same fruit Adam and Eve were not asked to eat”
  • @hoeglaw Richard Hoeg on x
    “While it might look self-serving for Epic to be behind the legislation, the US government has been looking into big tech monopolies for a while.” That's...not a counter to “it might look self-serving”, Kotaku. It *is* self-serving, the question is whether one cares. https://twit…
  • @dhh @dhh on x
    @rsgnl No, I think that dozens of Very Concerned Citizens just showed up to voice their Legitimate Concerns about state v FTC jurisdiction distinctions in a bill that could start the snowball where Apple ends up losing billions in extortion fees. Totally 😂🤣 https://www.vice.com/.…
  • @keleftheriou Kosta Eleftheriou on x
    My two favorite objections to this bill. People have no idea how totally fake App Store star ratings can be, or how easily scammers buy them in bulk every day. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @dhh @dhh on x
    Apple's lobbyists must have studied the playbook of the fake reviews on their own platforms. The “public” commentary on the Arizona bill to grant devs protection from App Store extortion/retaliation is 🤯. These identical comments just go on for days. https://apps.azleg.gov/... ht…
  • @adamkovac Adam Kovacevich on x
    Update: ND Legislature punted on the bill. Once the battle was fully joined, they likely realized Epic's state lobbyist undersold how big a fight this would be. ND has little reason to pick sides in a company vs. company dispute. https://twitter.com/...
  • @nytimestech @nytimestech on x
    A North Dakota bill that an Apple executive had warned “threatens to destroy iPhone as you know it” died in a vote on Tuesday. https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @dhh @dhh on x
    Shame about North Dakota, but fantastic this bill got up for a vote, and that the snowball is rolling for similar legislation in multiple other states. It's not easy going first. And Apple and Google have infinite lobbying budgets to scare legislators with. But someone will dare.…
  • @shiraovide Shira Ovide on x
    In today's On Tech: The tale of tech is repeated versions of: “Oh, wow, what should we do about this thing that we left alone until it got giant?” I talked with @dmccabe about why governments from Warsaw to Bismarck are rethinking the rules for tech. https://www.nytimes.com/...