Elon Musk sues OpenAI and Sam Altman, accusing them of betraying OpenAI's founding agreement to develop an AGI for the “benefit of humanity” rather than profit
“It's a fun complaint to read; it fundamentally accuses OpenAI & its CEO, Sam Altman, of pretending to run a nonprofit designed to benefit humanity while actually running a regular ol' tech company & trying to make a lot of money. … Gary McGraw / @cigitalgem@sigmoid.social : Pretending that the current crop of #LLMs is even beginning to approach #AGI is silly. #ML — This technology does not reason or think. It predicts logits. — https://www.courthousenews.com/ ... Bluesky: @tleighk.bsky.social : Have you heard much about Ilya recently? @euphemistic.bsky.social : Stupid lawsuits seem to be epidemic these days @drewstephenson.bsky.social : He does like stupid lawsuits. X: Sam Altman / @sama : @elonmusk anytime 🫡 Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life : In reading Sam Altman's original emails to Elon Musk about founding OpenAI, I'm struck by the idea that from the start AI researchers would get significant financial upside. Becoming a for-profit to compete with Google's compensation and resources was inevitable. Shirin Ghaffary / @shiringhaffary : Reading through the Elon-OpenAI lawsuit in more detail: Interesting that part of what the suit discusses is OpenAI's rumored “Q*” breakthrough, demanding that OpenAI should make that research publicly available [image] Dave McClure / @davemcclure : why does this feel like a live-action AI-generated remake of Ender's Game... except i can't tell which side is Ender and which is Peter. 🤔🤷🏻♂️🚀🤖👾 [image] Ana Mostarac / @anammostarac : I was just at Starbucks in SF ordering an iced latte. The cashier asked if I would like to “round up” my purchase to support a local non-profit. The non-profit was OpenAI. Ian Bremmer / @ianbremmer : the bored housebros of silicon valley Timothy B. Lee / @binarybits : It's weird that he says 2016 rather than 2015, the year OpenAi was founded. I don't see any mention of additional 2015 donations in the lawsuit. Timothy B. Lee / @binarybits : Elon Musk has previously been reported as giving $100 million to OpenAI, but Elon's lawsuit says he gave more than $44 million between 2016 and 2020. I would expect Musk to give the biggest number he could here, which makes me think the $100 million number might be exaggerated? @kepano : now that Google, Meta, Mistral, etc, all have great open source models, it seems rather untenable for OpenAI to 1. keep “open” in the name, 2. stay closed source, 3. pretend to be a non-profit at least one of those things must go, right? [image] Madeline Renbarger / @maddierenbarger : New: @EricNewcomer digs into the the Musk/Altman lawsuit, plus I explore what might be a crack in Google Search's armor in regards to AI. https://www.newcomer.co/... Robert Scoble / @scobleizer : We all know OpenAI's governance is highly unusual. Andrew Ross Sorkin / @andrewrsorkin : In 2015, I interviewed @elonmusk and @sama together on stage, in part, about AI just as @OpenAI was being formed. Here's how they thought about AI then: [video] Dan Primack / @danprimack : Worth re-reading today, by @felixsalmon: How a Silicon Valley nonprofit became worth billions https://www.axios.com/... Dan Primack / @danprimack : OpenAI is having a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad week. https://www.axios.com/... [image] Bindu Reddy / @bindureddy : Elon just sued OpenAI for breach of contract and fiduciary duty! He is claiming that OpenAI violated terms by becoming a closed source for profit corporation and is demanding that they open source their AI. Don't know if it will stand up in a legal court but it will definitely stand up in the court of humanity! 🙏 Andrew Curran / @andrewcurran_ : Interesting, he's asking for judicial determination on the argument that GPT-4, Q*, and 'next generation LLM's currently in development' constitute AGI. We're going to need one hell of a jury. [image] Daniel / @growing_daniel : Suing OpenAI is so complicated damn [image] Jason Kint / @jason_kint : A day after getting trounced in court attempting to chill Center for Countering Digital Hate, Musk is now playing “humanity” card suing OpenAI. Not over IP theft but governance and open source head fake. grok must not be going so well? Have at it boys. https://www.theguardian.com/ ... Eric Newcomer / @ericnewcomer : First, Twitter now OpenAI. Bret Taylor will be the foremost expert in facing off with Elon Musk @fakepsyho : Musk is suing OpenAI and since I'm having a lazy morning, I decided to look at it. I won't lie, I had a different idea of what's inside the complaint. [image] Luiza Jarovsky / @luizajarovsky : 🚨BREAKING: ANOTHER lawsuit against @OpenAI - will they survive intact? @elonmusk has just filed a lawsuit against @sama, @gdb & OpenAI with juicy legal arguments. If you work in AI, you can't miss it. READ THIS: My general comment here is that from a legal perspective, Musk's... [image] Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life : Elon Musk is suing Sam Altman and others for violating its founding agreement to be a non-profit which develops AI for the benefit of humanity to counter balance Google and is now a for-profit virtual subsidiary of Microsoft. He donated over $44M to it from 2016 to 2020. [image] @8teapi : A moment of silence for Microsoft's law firm that would have issued a legal opinion on the validity of this deal prior to the investment. @basedbeffjezos : You know AGI is finally here when the lawsuits start flying Shakeel / @shakeelhashim : This strongly suggests Elon doesn't take AI safety very seriously, IMO @cromwellian : Somehow this doesn't feel like it's for the “good of humanity”, it feels like a personal vendetta. If Musk had still been in charge of OpenAI, I don't think he'd have a problem with secrets, trusting himself to be the savior. Andrew Curran / @andrewcurran_ : Elon Musk has filed a lawsuit against OpenAI for breach of contract, breach of fiduciary duty and unfair business practices, and is asking for OpenAI to revert back to open source, and to share all it's research for the benefit of humanity. https://www.courthousenews.com/ ... [image] Zach Tratar / @zachtratar : Oh boy. https://www.courthousenews.com/ ... This is about to get very interesting and complicated. I'm wondering what kind of actual weight a “founding agreement” has? Surely OpenAI must have known this would happen when it pivoted towards a profit-oriented model. @alexandrosm : This was a heavy card that was going to be played at some point. Elon has a claim to openAI's future and now we find out if it can be cashed for something. https://www.courthousenews.com/ ... H/t @StephenPiment @xdaily : BREAKING: Elon Musk has filed a lawsuit against Open AI and Sam Altman for breach of contract. The lawsuit accuses Altman et al with having betrayed an agreement from Open AI's founding to remain as a non-profit company. [image] LinkedIn: Emil Protalinski : Elon Musk is suing OpenAI and Sam Altman for betraying the company's founding agreement. In his lawsuit, Musk says that OpenAI … Sami Laine : Interesting news from the global AI battle grounds - Musk sued OpenAI. — Elon Musk has filed a lawsuit against OpenAI, its co-founders Sam Altman and Greg Brockman, and affiliated entities. … Emmanuel Maggiori : In case you're wondering, here's Elon Musk's lawsuit to #OpenAI. Some interesting exerpts: — “OpenAI's Certificate of Incorporation affirmed that its … Matt Beale : One of the curious things here is the fair use of copyrighted materials. Academic and non-profit uses of someone else's copyrighted materials … Tejas Kumar : So Elon Musk is suing OpenAI CEO Sam Altman and OpenAI because GPT-4 is actually AGI and should be open-source and freely available to all humanity, not used for profit by Microsoft. … Sholto Maud : So hold on, Musk believes that GPT-4 is an Artificial General Intelligence (AGI)?? I didn't hear anyone say that at the Microsoft AI Tour in Sydney... … Forums: Hacker News : Elon Musk sues OpenAI over AI threat r/ycombinator : Elon Musk sues OpenAI for abandoning original mission for profit r/OpenAI : Elon Musk sues OpenAI for abandoning original mission for profit r/news : Elon Musk sues OpenAI accusing it of putting profit before humanity | OpenAI r/OpenAI : Interesting Details about Elon Musk's lawsuit against 8 OpenAI companies r/law : Elon Musk sues OpenAI and CEO Sam Altman for breach of contract, breach of fiduciary duty and unfair business practices r/aiwars : Elon Musk sues OpenAI over AI threat r/singularity : Elon Musk sues OpenAI over AI threat r/teslainvestorsclub : Elon Musk Sues OpenAI r/ArtistHate : Elon Musk sues OpenAI over “AI threat” r/singularity : Elon Sues OpenAI for “breach of contract”
2/2 also seems that OpenAI is a Delaware corp. I wouldn't be surprised to see OpenAI try to change the venue to the jurisdiction that Musk just dropped a steaming turd on.
Idk it's funny that OpenAI invested in an ai robotics company and a day later Elon Musk (who loves to show off his Tesla 'ai robot') decided it was time to sue Sam Altman for something
Elon Musk is suing OpenAI for abandoning its mission to benefit humanity. Musk alleges that OpenAI's partnership with Microsoft has transformed the organization “into a closed-source de facto subsidiary” of Microsoft https://www.theverge.com/...
I'm not an AI expert, I have a passive interest of late, but if OpenAI had an AGI operating above human levels, I'm not sure that's something they would want to keep, or could have kept under wraps. Right? Can smarter peeps than me weigh in? AI Threads https://www.theguardian.…
Musk sued OpenAI and its chief executive, Sam Altman, accusing them of breaching a contract by prioritizing profit and commercial interests in developing AI over the public good. Musk, who helped create OpenAI with Altman and others in 2015 …
Elon Musk sues OpenAI for failing to deliver on its original mission. But is he any better? Let's dig into all the claims he's made - where are those fully self-driving (FSD) cars he promised years ago? That's just one example.
Understanding the Recent OpenAI Lawsuit: Explained Simply .Here it is ! - OpenAI was initially founded as a non-profit with the intention of publishing all its research as open source. - Elon Musk, one of the co-founders, was later ousted by Sam Altman, and the company shifted …
The Musk vs OpenAI lawsuit just seems like a way for Musk to spread some misinformation about his AI credentials. I suspect he is looking for headlines off some of his claims. Tech Threads
For those who aren't familiar with the Silicon Valley soap opera, this is a crossover. btaylor was the dude who was chair of Twitter, which he shoved down Elon Musk's throat after the always irritated (and irritating) billionaire tried to squirrel out of the deal. He's now Ope…
Elon Musk is suing OpenAI for “putting power and profits over humanity.” I'm sure this has nothing to do with his own competing AI company, xAI, which will surely be 100% altruistic. And the concern for humanity might be more convincing were he a human being.
Breaking News: Elon Musk sues OpenAI for allegedly breaching an agreement to develop artificial general intelligence (AGI) for the benefit of humanity, not profits. Musk asks for the court to order OpenAI to revert back to open source, to prevent OpenAI, Altman, Brockman and Mic…
In reading Sam Altman's original emails to Elon Musk about founding OpenAI, I'm struck by the idea that from the start AI researchers would get significant financial upside. Becoming a for-profit to compete with Google's compensation and resources was inevitable.
Reading through the Elon-OpenAI lawsuit in more detail: Interesting that part of what the suit discusses is OpenAI's rumored “Q*” breakthrough, demanding that OpenAI should make that research publicly available [image]
why does this feel like a live-action AI-generated remake of Ender's Game... except i can't tell which side is Ender and which is Peter. 🤔🤷🏻♂️🚀🤖👾 [image]
I was just at Starbucks in SF ordering an iced latte. The cashier asked if I would like to “round up” my purchase to support a local non-profit. The non-profit was OpenAI.
Elon Musk has previously been reported as giving $100 million to OpenAI, but Elon's lawsuit says he gave more than $44 million between 2016 and 2020. I would expect Musk to give the biggest number he could here, which makes me think the $100 million number might be exaggerated?
now that Google, Meta, Mistral, etc, all have great open source models, it seems rather untenable for OpenAI to 1. keep “open” in the name, 2. stay closed source, 3. pretend to be a non-profit at least one of those things must go, right? [image]
New: @EricNewcomer digs into the the Musk/Altman lawsuit, plus I explore what might be a crack in Google Search's armor in regards to AI. https://www.newcomer.co/...
In 2015, I interviewed @elonmusk and @sama together on stage, in part, about AI just as @OpenAI was being formed. Here's how they thought about AI then: [video]
Elon just sued OpenAI for breach of contract and fiduciary duty! He is claiming that OpenAI violated terms by becoming a closed source for profit corporation and is demanding that they open source their AI. Don't know if it will stand up in a legal court but it will definitely …
A day after getting trounced in court attempting to chill Center for Countering Digital Hate, Musk is now playing “humanity” card suing OpenAI. Not over IP theft but governance and open source head fake. grok must not be going so well? Have at it boys. https://www.theguardian.com…
Interesting, he's asking for judicial determination on the argument that GPT-4, Q*, and 'next generation LLM's currently in development' constitute AGI. We're going to need one hell of a jury. [image]
Musk is suing OpenAI and since I'm having a lazy morning, I decided to look at it. I won't lie, I had a different idea of what's inside the complaint. [image]
🚨BREAKING: ANOTHER lawsuit against @OpenAI - will they survive intact? @elonmusk has just filed a lawsuit against @sama, @gdb & OpenAI with juicy legal arguments. If you work in AI, you can't miss it. READ THIS: My general comment here is that from a legal perspective, Musk's... …
Elon Musk is suing Sam Altman and others for violating its founding agreement to be a non-profit which develops AI for the benefit of humanity to counter balance Google and is now a for-profit virtual subsidiary of Microsoft. He donated over $44M to it from 2016 to 2020. [image]
Somehow this doesn't feel like it's for the “good of humanity”, it feels like a personal vendetta. If Musk had still been in charge of OpenAI, I don't think he'd have a problem with secrets, trusting himself to be the savior.
Elon Musk has filed a lawsuit against OpenAI for breach of contract, breach of fiduciary duty and unfair business practices, and is asking for OpenAI to revert back to open source, and to share all it's research for the benefit of humanity. https://www.courthousenews.com/ ... [im…
Oh boy. https://www.courthousenews.com/ ... This is about to get very interesting and complicated. I'm wondering what kind of actual weight a “founding agreement” has? Surely OpenAI must have known this would happen when it pivoted towards a profit-oriented model.
This was a heavy card that was going to be played at some point. Elon has a claim to openAI's future and now we find out if it can be cashed for something. https://www.courthousenews.com/ ... H/t @StephenPiment
BREAKING: Elon Musk has filed a lawsuit against Open AI and Sam Altman for breach of contract. The lawsuit accuses Altman et al with having betrayed an agreement from Open AI's founding to remain as a non-profit company. [image]