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Elon Musk says verified Twitter accounts are temporarily limited to reading 10K posts/day, unverified 1K, and new unverified 500, due to “extreme” data scraping

Twitter is putting limits to how many tweets its users can read as the Elon Musk-owned service suffers extended outage …

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  • @yoyoel.com Yoel Roth on bluesky
    For anyone keeping track, this isn't even the first time they've completely broken the site by bumbling around in the rate limiter.  —  There's a reason the limiter was one of the most locked down internal tools.  Futzing around with rate limits is probably the easiest way to bre…
  • @philly66.bsky.social @philly66.bsky.social on bluesky
    So one, he's really trying to drive up subscriptions & two, willing to drive people away from the site.  [embedded post]
  • @arctictony.bsky.social Tony Haile on bluesky
    When I met with Elon and his team, one of their big ideas was adding a paywall to Twitter.  Their mental model was the NYT and WSJ...  [embedded post]
  • @martinsfp.bsky.social @martinsfp.bsky.social on bluesky
    This is hilarious.  He's killing Twitter.  [embedded post]
  • @Gargron@mastodon.social Eugen Rochko on mastodon
    I would prefer it if Elon Musk was destroying his site during the work week.  This isn't the first time.
  • @caseynewton@mastodon.social Casey Newton on mastodon
    BTW this is why it was stupid for all those government / emergency services accounts to resume posting on Twitter.  Absolutely unreliable in critical situations
  • @caseynewton@mastodon.social Casey Newton on mastodon
    There are so many ways to break a website and by the time he is done Elon will have personally overseen all of them
  • @gregpak@mastodon.social Greg Pak on mastodon
    Ha ha ha that site is really gonna die soon.  —  You can only read 600 posts a day, now.  I mean, that's cool.  Solves the doomscrolling problem.  —  https://www.nbcnews.com/...  [image]
  • @fawfulfan@mastodon.social Matthew Chapman on mastodon
    In case you don't know the reason Twitter is melting down right now:  —  Elon Musk put in place a new “temporary” rule limiting unverified accounts to reading 600 tweets a day, but that code is bugging out and everyone's hitting the limit immediately, breaking the site and causin…
  • @lmc@mastodon.social Lisa C on mastodon
    I think in my Twitter days this would've meant I hit my daily limit by about 6 AM.  —  [image]
  • @Andres@mastodon.hardcoredevs.com Andres Jalinton on mastodon
    How to kill #Twitter in less than an hour:  —  1.- Make a production change on a weekend that introduces a bug that create a DDoS to itself.  ( https://sfba.social/...  2.- Rate limit users so they spent all the credits in seconds.  —  3.- Profit (?)
  • @el0j@mastodon.gamedev.place Eddy Jansson on mastodon
    I think Musk finally killed twitter for real.  There's ZERO CHANCE the 600 posts/day limit can stand and the site not implode.
  • @nixCraft@mastodon.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social on mastodon
    The birdsite is down again.  I see a “Rate limit exceeded” or “Cannot retrieve tweets” error message.  Mastodon has better uptime now.  WTF? #birdsite #twitter
  • @elonmusk Elon Musk on x
    Rate limits increasing soon to 8000 for verified, 800 for unverified & 400 for new unverified https://twitter.com/...
  • @elonmusk Elon Musk on x
    Now to 10k, 1k & 0.5k
  • @esthercrawford @esthercrawford on x
    Hubris + no pushback - customer empathy - data = a great way to light billions on fire 🔥 💰 🔥
  • @elonmusk Elon Musk on x
    Rate limited due to reading all the posts about rate limits
  • @jack @jack on x
    And I do hope they consider building on truly censorship-resistant open protocols like bitcoin and nostr to help ease that burden. Good for all, and critical to preserve the open internet.
  • @jack @jack on x
    Running Twitter is hard. I don't wish that stress upon anyone. I trust that the team is doing their best under the constraints they have, which are immense. It's easy to critique the decisions from afar...which I'm guilty of...but I know the goal is to see Twitter thrive. It will…
  • @nelson @nelson on x
    Lol the Twitter webapp is trying to load something from its internal graphql API and getting a 429 Too Many Requests response. Twitter's Javascript ignores the error and tries again, hundreds of times a second. Twitter is DDOSing itself.
  • @elonmusk Elon Musk on x
    Oh the irony of hitting view limits due to complaining about view limits
  • @wongmjane Jane Manchun Wong on x
    Twitter is working on an anti-addiction program for unverified users
  • @scottnover Scott Nover on x
    We are watching a historic destruction of wealth: the world's richest man is lighting forty four billion dollar bills on fire. What a treat.
  • @jayrosen_nyu Jay Rosen on x
    Sounds to me like Blue is under performing and he thinks this could help. [image]
  • @mikeisaac @mikeisaac on x
    honestly blown away by this why? [image]
  • @broderick Ryan Broderick on x
    I'm actually starting to think Elon Musk is destroying Twitter on purpose for some kind of tax scheme and/or conservative plot to hobble progressive activists. I don't think you can be genuinely this bad at doing anything and still dress yourself every day. (Maybe he doesn't 🤷🏼‍♂…
  • @katienotopoulos Katie Notopoulos on x
    Friendster was a superior product in 2004. But Friendster kept breaking/404ing and so everyone would post to the “Bulletin Board” that there was a new site called MySpace that was ugly but it didn't break.
  • @demercy_ @demercy_ on x
    remember when a bunch of people who know how big sites work predicted that the system wouldn't be able to handle people *using* it, and that it was only a matter of time??? this is probably what's happening right now, and he's using a crappy excuse to cover it up. https://twitter…
  • @growing_daniel Daniel on x
    Your addiction is about to be broken. We will all be free. See you guys at the park. https://twitter.com/...
  • @elonmusk Elon Musk on x
    @growing_daniel Touch grass again
  • @alisonnolan9 Alison Nolan on x
    @jneill If you're on web switch to app or vice versa - you'll get a bit of extra use that way. Seems Twitter is DDOSing itself. [image]
  • @theapplehub @theapplehub on x
    Oops 😅 [image]
  • @jamesmoran James Moran on x
    If nothing else, let 2023 be the year we all finally realised that billionaires are fucking idiots
  • @lanceulanoff Lance Ulanoff on x
    Man in Donut Shop. “A dozen donuts please!” “Sure” Comes back a hour later “A dozen donuts please!” “Sorry, no” “There are dozens of donuts behind you” “I can't serve you and all these other people at the same time.” “You just handed that guy a donut” “He's paying extra” Leaves. …
  • @tomwarren Tom Warren on x
    Twitter apparently started paying for Google Cloud again, but the timing is still very odd for this sudden “scraping” issue to happen 🧐 https://www.bloomberg.com/...
  • @triketora Tracy Chou on x
    twitter poetry [image]
  • @alicemazzy Alice Maz on x
    if people are using too much bandwidth by scraping the site maybe twitter should consider building an api
  • @cyriakharris Cyriak Harris on x
    Can't decide whether elon musk is the captain of the titanic or if he's the iceberg.
  • @katebevan Kate Bevan on x
    Twitter is the carbon-fibre Titan submersible of the internet today
  • @nirave @nirave on x
    He came He saw They rate limited Now what... #twitter #RateLimit https://twitter.com/...
  • @inafried Ina Fried on x
    The perfect tweet doesn't exi... [image]
  • @paulswhtn Paul Berzatto on x
    using twitter through the safari app like it's the dark ages
  • @alicegoldfuss @alicegoldfuss on x
    I like how Twitter is now The Producers in that its owner is actively trying to sabotage it and also there are Nazis
  • @snowden Edward Snowden on x
    This broke Twitter for me, making it impossible for me to engage as I have for years. I *post* from a dedicated, logged-in session because there is no alternative, but as a target of state surveillance orders, I *read* via anon sessions (nitter) on a diff VM. Now I can't.... http…
  • @mattbinder Matt Binder on x
    lmao [image]
  • @jack @jack on x
    [image]
  • @mnateshyamalan Soul Nate on x
    i'm sad too but this is objectively such a funny way to kill this website [image]
  • @nancylevine Nancy Levine Stearns on x
    “Advertisers have fled in droves, raising questions about how the company will make money. Amid what observers have characterized as a chaotic tenure, Musk in May appointed ⁦@lindayacc⁩” as Twitter CEO. #Tesla brand is severely damaged. $TSLA https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
  • @geoconfirmed @geoconfirmed on x
    No words. We are still working on fixes for everything that Twitter (@Elonmusk) changed again. They have one of the best Open Source (Int) platforms ever build. But since Elon took over everything is a disaster. We have to adapt weekly... And that costs our volunteers a lot of...…
  • @mikedrucker Mike Drucker on x
    I like that the three working theories for why Twitter broke are: 1.) Twitter is DDoSing itself because Elon is an idiot. 2.) Twitter is losing servers after the company ignored bills because Elon is an idiot. 3.) Twitter hopes to force people to pay because Elon is an idiot.
  • @cjc Cristina Cordova on x
    This is all strangely out of a Trump-like playbook: 1) Create disaster via half-baked policy change 2) Users protest in response, resulting in more people talking about Elon/Twitter as a result 3) Revert the change or reduce its impact significantly. Expect praise in return https…
  • @mrjamesob James O'Brien on x
    An oh so ‘funny’ tweet from someone who neither cares about nor understands the importance of Twitter to vulnerable & isolated people. Sadly, he owns the platform. https://twitter.com/...
  • @matt_levine Matt Levine on x
    honestly limiting everyone to reading 600 tweets a day is the single best product innovation twitter has ever done
  • @hnshah @hnshah on x
    This app has now officially become a very large scale SaaS freemium experiment.
  • @sarahfrier Sarah Frier on x
    I'm guessing this has been a very expensive day for Twitter. Less tweeting and less scrolling = fewer ads served and viewed, for one. But also just such a loss of trust in Twitter's reliability. https://twitter.com/...
  • @tomwarren Tom Warren on x
    *checks the date* 📅 ah yes Twitter [image]
  • @markscott82 Mark Scott on x
    Nothing says free speech like limiting people's ability to read stuff on @Twitter, amirite?
  • @r_chirgwin Richard Chirgwin on x
    So weird. Some people can see my posts and like them. I can't see anything *but* my own posts.
  • @nkulw Noah Kulwin on x
    Even dumber than Musk https://twitter.com/...
  • @_asiwajulerry @_asiwajulerry on x
    Elon Musk is another example why landlord and tenant no suppose dey live inside the same house.
  • @joannastern Joanna Stern on x
    Elon vs. the data scrapers... #RateLimitExceeded [video]
  • @joshelman Josh Elman on x
    Twitter with built in limits seems like a positive thing for global mental health
  • @teroterotero @teroterotero on x
    Now my Twitter is working but Blue Sky feed froze because of overload
  • @saeeddicaprio @saeeddicaprio on x
    hello guys it's my first day as a twitter software engineer wish me luck [image]
  • @modestproposal1 @modestproposal1 on x
    Blowing through rate limits like a stop sign https://twitter.com/...
  • @joannastern Joanna Stern on x
    Finally, a Screen Time limit that may actually work. https://twitter.com/...
  • @gruber John Gruber on x
    Smooth move, Ex-Lax. https://twitter.com/...
  • @whitest_injera @whitest_injera on x
    “i can't believe twitter is free” you won
  • @brijwaasi @brijwaasi on x
    Good guy Elon Musk, doing his bit to rid the world of its Twitter addiction #ratelimit #isgood
  • @profgalloway Scott Galloway on x
    Business best practice: When changing business model, just spring it on consumers. #surprise!
  • @emollick Ethan Mollick on x
    I can query the most powerful AI that is publicly available for free over 300 times a day (using Microsoft Bing in creative mode, which uses GPT-4). But you can only read 600 tweets for free. And Twitter makes money when I read tweets.
  • @austin_rief @austin_rief on x
    There's never been a better time to compete with twitter. If I'm Zuck, I'm launching my Twitter competitor today. https://twitter.com/...
  • @shl0ms @shl0ms on x
    sorry guys, the CEO of email just announced that you can only read 600 per day
  • @oneunderscore__ Ben Collins on x
    Best guess: Twitter tried to do something stupid with their API, they messed it up in a way that will take days, so Elon is doing this new “you can only read 600 posts a day” thing as a cover, and he'll say “after hearing your feedback, we've reversed the policy” when it's fixed.
  • @jimmysecuk Jimmy Rushton on x
    Limits on READING tweets? I swear, Elon Musk is a literal simpleton who is determined to totally break this platform. [image]
  • @mskidchaos Mansi P on x
    @om @levie If what this tweet says is true then it seems like the scraping is coming from inside the house https://twitter.com/...
  • @christapeterso @christapeterso on x
    “Paid accounts can only use the website for 1 hour per day. Everyone else 7 minutes” is really something [image]
  • @boygrri @boygrri on x
    just made 6000 posts! can't wait for my friends to see them :D
  • @discussingfilm @discussingfilm on x
    this could be one of your 600 tweets for today. [video]
  • @imbethmccoll Beth McColl on x
    i really rate the limit. always have. and so to exceed it? just exquisite
  • @bzamayo Benjamin Mayo on x
    say what you want about mastodon being confusing but at least the posts load (@bzamayo@mastodon.social)
  • @lijukic Luka Ivan Jukic on x
    Non blue ticks collecting their daily tweet rations, 2023 (colorised) [image]
  • @derjarjour Michaël Jarjour on x
    If this is indeed a business move to convert more people into Twitter Blue subscribers*, I have notes. *spoiler: it isn't [image]
  • @tomwarren Tom Warren on x
    How it started: How it's going: [image]
  • @levie Aaron Levie on x
    Twitter's strategies are entirely contradictory. You can't be a good place for creators or advertisers if you limit tweet views. It breaks the flywheel of traffic that's needed for the platform to be useful to both sides. A self own that ultimately will have to be reversed.
  • @om @om on x
    @levie No one will accuse its owner of being a bright light again!
  • @taylorlorenz @taylorlorenz on x
    Elon really said fuck NBA twitter [image]
  • @nkulw Noah Kulwin on x
    Because master Wayne, some men are epic https://twitter.com/...
  • @jules_su Jules Suzdaltsev on x
    LOL I CANT SEE MY OWN TWEETS AHAHAHAHHA [image]
  • @mikebutcher Mike Butcher on x
    Companies are scrapping Twitter because the API was switched from free to astronomically expensive. Simple. Adjust API price, remove login wall & read limits, ad revenues recover. Maybe I should do this job? https://twitter.com/...
  • @maxwelltani Max Tani on x
    He finally did the thing that literally forces you to go to the free twitter alternatives https://twitter.com/...
  • @trungtphan Trung Phan on x
    Twitter is temporarily limiting users to 6000 read posts per day. Good thing I spent the past 9 months meticulously hand-writing the 25,000 most viral tweets ever onto cue cards and can now revisit them without hitting any limits. https://twitter.com/... [image]
  • @ashleyfeinberg Ashley Feinberg on x
    i cannot wait to find out that this limit is going to include the 20 ads you see for every actual post https://twitter.com/...
  • @athertonkd Kelsey D. Atherton on x
    He couldn't be worse at this if he was a deep sea submersible captain steering with a logitech controller [image]
  • @suhail @suhail on x
    @elonmusk Why not rate limit it based on good behavior/tenure/etc? For instance, an account in good standing would get 95th percentile usage limits whereas a brand-new account would get a lot less? Most users would not need to know the rate limits.
  • @suhail @suhail on x
    @elonmusk It seems sad to penalize the many due to the few. Surely Twitter's data science team has already determined what a “good user” looks like after all these years.
  • @zoink Dylan Field on x
    Please sir may I have some more https://twitter.com/...
  • @ryanbeckwith Ryan Teague Beckwith on x
    @katienotopoulos People also abandoned Digg overnight for Reddit
  • @willguyatt Will Guyatt on x
    I wonder if a large cloud supplier has finally called Elon Musk's bluff and cut off a significant amount of capacity over the weekend? 🤔
  • @alshipley Al Shipley on x
    “rate limited exceeded” will be the last thing people on elon's space colonies see when they run out of oxygen
  • @taylorlorenz Taylor Lorenz on x
    This is so funny he really wants to force users off the platform https://twitter.com/...
  • @brianstelter Brian Stelter on x
    So... no more doomscrolling?
  • @obsoletedogma Matt O'Brien on x
    Preventing people from using your app doesn't seem like a good way to get them to use your app.
  • @dimensionmedia David Bisset on x
    “Rate limit exeeded” messages aren't a joke I seems. Makes sense login being required was made a thing otherwise you couldn't put these “viewing” restrictions in place. “Temporaily” advertisers are just going to love this. https://twitter.com/...
  • @johnolilly John Lilly on x
    Idly wondering what % of my daily tweet ration will be people tweeting about the Tweet ration.
  • @panzer @panzer on x
    Genius at work
  • @matthfield Matt Field on x
    After much handwringing over social media addiction - Musk has the solution Simply ban your own users from looking at your hell app
  • @matthfield Matt Field on x
    Scrolling aggressively to try and hit 600 Tweets
  • @lamhfada @lamhfada on x
    Amazing how a once mostly reliable social media site is just going down the tubes because some incompetent apartheid rich guy wanted his ego stoked by fascists. [image]
  • @karaswisher Kara Swisher on x
    How to lose a product in 10 months https://twitter.com/... [image]
  • @ghoulhag @ghoulhag on x
    not now babe i'm rate limit exceeded
  • @levie Aaron Levie on x
    Think of all the things that become possible when you pay your server bills
  • @tomcoates Tom Coates on x
    OMIGOD, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. https://www.bbc.com/...
  • @digiphile Alex Howard on x
    A reg wall + limiting the number of posts users can consume without warning is a gobsmacking act. 1st, it was pay for your tweets to get seen. Now, it's pay to read access tweets — & even then, still be rate limited. (6000/day isn't much.) TBD who does so, & how many leave. [imag…
  • @pt Parker on x
    LOL. They did this on purpose?!?!!?! https://twitter.com/...
  • @tsuvik Vikas SN on x
    Can't help but wonder if this is yet another ploy from Twitter to drive up Twitter Blue subscriptions 🤔 https://twitter.com/...
  • @katebevan Kate Bevan on x
    He's not paid some cloud provider's bill again, hasn't he?
  • @williamturton William Turton on x
    by posts do you mean...tweets https://twitter.com/...
  • @willguyatt Will Guyatt on x
    The world's richest man is operating Twitter like he's trading from a single market stall. Crazy.
  • @willguyatt Will Guyatt on x
    Musk is also literally killing twitter for those literally pay for this rubbish.
  • @loganbartlett Logan Bartlett on x
    Just claim your account was hacked and this weirdly specific message was posted.
  • @rmac18 @rmac18 on x
    This is like the pandemic when they let people only buy two things of toilet paper but for tweets.
  • @rmac18 @rmac18 on x
    And think about the implications for advertisers, who will likely have a lot of questions. Fewer tweets being seen by users = fewer eyeballs seeing ads. This will have knock on effects beyond stopping whatever scraping Musk objects to.
  • @krxsctr @krxsctr on x
    Having to read tweets on what's going on on Twitter on Techmeme because Twitter won't let me read anything Not sure this a great way to run a product [image]
  • @levie Aaron Levie on x
    Sorry that this tweet is going against your daily quota. https://twitter.com/...
  • @internethippo @internethippo on x
    Just openly begging for money would be less embarrassing than this https://twitter.com/...
  • @mattbinder Matt Binder on x
    ❌ stopping the bots ❌ stopping the web scrapers ✅ stopping real users from accessing Twitter [image]
  • @dieworkwear Derek Guy on x
    Hey everyone! “Menswear guy” here. Elon has liked my posts so much, he hired me to be Twitter's new engineer! Excited to start my first day!!
  • @martinsfp @martinsfp on x
    Even if you thought limiting the reading of tweets was a good idea, the way it's implemented, as an error message because they haven't built anything slicker is just so bad UX. Spitting in users' faces.
  • @daveleebbg Dave Lee on x
    Twitter also introducing a new sign up process [image]
  • @rmac18 @rmac18 on x
    This is gonna make a lot of people mad, especially those who bought into his vision to pay $8 a month and who passed whatever checks he put in place to ensure they were “verified” users. [image]
  • @mikeisaac @mikeisaac on x
    just to be clear the above screenshot isn't fake, i just couldn't get to the original tweet until someone texted it to me because I am rate limited at viewing posts Here's original tweet https://twitter.com/...
  • @kevinjrawlinson Kevin Rawlinson on x
    Well, that's my daily 10-minute ration of Twitter all used up 🤷‍♂️ [image]
  • @neroxiia @neroxiia on x
    Twitter has really sucked since Elon Musk took over the app.. https://twitter.com/...
  • @bradeauxnba @bradeauxnba on x
    Limiting the amount of posts someone can read per day is absolutely absurd. Especially in the middle of NBA free agency.. The timing couldn't be any worse. https://twitter.com/...
  • @anisha12 @anisha12 on x
    Tips on how to reduce engagement and traffic and ruin success, faster A🧵 https://twitter.com/...
  • @norootcause @norootcause on x
    Who could have foreseen that disinvesting in expertise and spare capacity would eventually lead to problems?
  • @norootcause @norootcause on x
    Beginning to suspect that Elon Musk is not a systems thinker.
  • @daveleebbg Dave Lee on x
    Freedom of speech but not freedom of being able to look at a lot of things per day
  • @thetomzone Tom Mckay on x
    gotta hand it to Elon here. we were all joking about how he was gonna implement a paywall on posting but he came up with the even better idea of a paywall on seeing the posts https://twitter.com/...
  • @markgurman Mark Gurman on x
    No viewing tweets without logging in + extreme limiting without a paid account. The era of Twitter as a paid only service is possibly approaching. https://twitter.com/...
  • @thecubsfan @thecubsfan on x
    ok cool so he's out of money and they're ending the usefulness of the service. I had bits I wanted to do today. https://twitter.com/...
  • @joshtpm Josh Marshall on x
    sounds like Twitter is doing great if it has to block people who are not signed in and throttle existing accounts just to keep up with the totally ordinary usage that's been going on for years. Place is falling apart and can't happen soon enough frankly. https://twitter.com/...
  • @mattlombardonfl Matt Lombardo on x
    Easily the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen, in a long line of ridiculousness since Musk took over. They'll stop at nothing trying to get people to pay. Twitter has become unusable as a platform. I said it. 🗑️ https://twitter.com/...
  • @jpsartre_noexit @jpsartre_noexit on x
    I'm a human Getting rate limit exceed. I definitely haven't hit 300 today @TwitterSupport @elonmusk https://twitter.com/... [image]
  • @oalexanderdk Oliver Alexander on x
    Unless you pay for Twitter you can now only READ 600 posts per day. Even if you pay for Twitter Blue, you can only READ 6000. Well done @elonmusk you killed Twitter. Can't wait to see morons defend this. https://twitter.com/...
  • @esotericcd @esotericcd on x
    This is insane. I look back through tweets, search archives, research things constantly. 600 posts? I hit that use scrolling down through an “advanced search” in five minutes. You have ruined Twitter. It's because you're losing money and don't have the infrastructure, isn't it. h…
  • @shuglisam Rubab Hayat on x
    So even when you pay you are still limited 😀 https://twitter.com/...
  • @camolnft @camolnft on x
    I work in social media. I spend 8hr+ a day on Twitter for work. Part of this is directing funds to twitter for various marketing campaigns. This ONLY hurts the users that bring in revenue to twitter. The folks that rely on it for work. It's a sad day on the bird app. https://twit…
  • @sjftbi @sjftbi on x
    It's actually impressive to take control of the most basic social media app to exist and to completely ruin in what... less than a year? https://twitter.com/...
  • @igb Ian Brown on x
    Tell me you turned off too many servers without telling me you turned off too many servers. https://twitter.com/...
  • @lanceulanoff Lance Ulanoff on x
    This is just so dumb. A us solution to solve a you problem. I've never heard of a media consumption platform purposely limiting how much of it you can consume, and to once again punish unverified because they didn't want to pay is doubly insulting https://twitter.com/...
  • @thestalwart Joe Weisenthal on x
    So it seems bluechecks can tweet and see feeds just fine. But everyone else is limited?
  • @mikeelgan Mike Elgan on x
    Another idiotic change. Does this also apply to auto-updating streams on Tweetdeck? https://twitter.com/...
  • @daveleebbg Dave Lee on x
    Unverified accounts can only *read* 600 posts a day. Absolutely wild and self destructive move from Musk. https://twitter.com/...
  • @elonmusk Elon Musk on x
    To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we've applied the following temporary limits: - Verified accounts are limited to reading 6000 posts/day - Unverified accounts to 600 posts/day - New unverified accounts to 300/day