Dario Amodei defends his policy proposals, warns open weights won't decentralize power, endorses pre-launch vetting, says real accomplishments will earn trust
1/2 Thanks Gavin for an especially thoughtful exchange. I don't usually spend much time on social media but I wanted to engage here because it really brings out the heart of an important conversation. First, on regulation, I think that “either concentrate it in the hands of a
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Context & Ripple Effects
Amodei’s latest intervention extends his prior case for mandatory third-party testing of frontier models and his assertion that Anthropic does not support an open-weights model ban. The argument is therefore about how AI governance should be applied, not whether open weights should be prohibited outright.
The exchange has become a public split over where dangerous-model controls locate power: David Sacks frames Amodei’s approach as centralization, while Amodei argues that open weights alone do not disperse control. The dispute makes trust and pre-deployment review central to the policy contest.
First-order effects
- Amodei strengthens the case for pre-launch vetting as the operational test of his policy program, tying model access to demonstrated safety and public trust.
- David Sacks gains a clear opposing frame in the debate, casting controls advocated by Amodei as concentration rather than decentralization. Sacks’s response to Amodei makes that divide explicit.
Second-order effects
- AI-policy debate shifts away from a simple open-versus-closed model argument toward whether testing requirements can limit frontier risks without functioning as incumbent gatekeeping.
- Anthropic’s distinction between opposing an open-weights ban and supporting model testing puts pressure on critics to address the difference between distribution policy and pre-deployment safeguards.
Third-order effects
- If pre-launch review becomes the prevailing policy mechanism, access to frontier-model markets will increasingly depend on meeting governance requirements, making safety assurance a form of market access.
- The durable fault line is likely to be contestability: policymakers will have to weigh whether oversight can constrain powerful models without entrenching the firms best able to satisfy it.
The trend: Frontier-AI governance is moving toward a contest over whether pre-deployment safety controls are necessary accountability infrastructure or a route to concentrated platform power.
Related: Governance as Market Access · Trust as platform infrastructure · Dario Amodei · David Sacks responds to Amodei’s AI-policy stance · Amodei’s call for third-party frontier-model testing
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Discussion
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@darioamodei
Dario Amodei
on x
2/2 ...I do agree that the public has a negative view of AI (and that this is a big problem), but I don't think it is primarily caused by me or any other AI leader warning about AI's risks. I think it is fundamentally a crisis of trust. I think that ordinary people don't trust …
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@_sholtodouglas
Sholto Douglas
on x
@GavinSBaker Awesome response - thank you for coming back with such good faith. So much I agree with here. Also a lot of things I think the picture is more nuanced and I want to justify our takes more A few quick ones, but I might post more here later. I think that cyber is ultim…
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@svpino
@svpino
on x
“I do agree that the public has a negative view of AI, but I don't think it is primarily caused by me...” Says the guy who spends his week telling everyone who listens how his company will make human beings obsolete in almost every single job out there.
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@jtlonsdale
Joe Lonsdale
on x
Glad to see Dario engaging on @X
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@rohanpaul_ai
Rohan Paul
on x
Dario Amodei broke his silence! - Predics that AI could help cure most human disease within roughly 5-10 years. - says AI is structurally prone to concentrating power, even without regulation. - He wants regulation designed to slow frontier AI labs while giving smaller
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@zephyr_z9
@zephyr_z9
on x
Dario didn't dispute Gavin's original claim about “Internally, Anthropic is very confident. I have been told by multiple people I trust that Dario has said that Anthropic might be the only private company in the world at some point.” 🤔🤔
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@z4y5f3
Yunfan Zhang
on x
Read carefully: Dario did not deny saying “Anthropic might be the only private company in the world at some point”, which is what started this whole debate. The post reads like an LLM that learned reward hacking during RL: lots of hedging, extreme length bias, shifting away from
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@yacinemtb
Kache
on x
A lesson on the Dario comms fiasco where he personally got whipped by his team to Comment on the Situation: If it is believable that you're the type to torture naked impoverished gnomes in your basement, people will believe it. Instead of saying you don't torture gnomes, try
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@jessicalessin
Jessica Lessin
on x
With just two tweets, @DarioAmodei did what he has struggled to do all year: he changed the narrative about himself and gave the chattering classes of tech a far more accessible message to quote re: his views. And his trust comment is, I believe, exactly the point.
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@evankirstel
@evankirstel
on x
Dario Amodei got into it on X over whether open weights actually decentralize AI. His argument: weights without compute don't change who holds the power. Self serving coming from him, sure. Still correct. https://x.com/...
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@davidsacks
David Sacks
on x
Some thoughts on Dario's post: 1. Dario does not actually address Gavin Baker's account of what he said - something he could easily deny if it were inaccurate. 2. Dario claims his critics live in a “bubble” where all regulation equals regulatory capture. He calls this an overly
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@suchenzang
Susan Zhang
on x
see the thing is, he was already being positive by constraining ai job displacement to “entry-level” work, and claiming only 50% displacement instead of 110% or 200% (GDP growth utopia!) and he led with how exciting this whole ai disruption thing is just like any other major
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@kimmonismus
@kimmonismus
on x
„Open-weights do help some with this but are nowhere near a sufficient solution because they simply shift the concentration somewhat to those with the most compute and chips (which are roughly the frontier labs plus maybe hardware providers)." I vehemently disagree, and Qwen-3.8
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@suchenzang
Susan Zhang
on x
a wall of text and an army of sycophants to Thoughtfully Not Deny the original accusation of “Dario says Anthropic might be the only private company in the world at some point”... oh, and btw Dario is totally not spreading pdoom or massive human disempowerment fears, no no you
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@brianroemmele
Brian Roemmele
on x
I am doing my best to stop back from this subject as it should be obvious what we are seeing here. However the arrogance that us commoners are too dumb to catch his grift must be addressed. Receipts: Dario Amodei's carefully worded reply is a masterclass in having it both ways.
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@ralph_grabowski
Ralph Grabowski
on x
Count the qualifiers in “AI could help cure most human disease within roughly 5-10 years.” 1. could 2. help 3. most 4. roughly 5. 5-10 Each is a Get of Jail Free card when most human disease isn't cured in 5-10 years.
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@jasonbotterill
@jasonbotterill
on x
Why does he follow 0 people who the fuck does he think he is?
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@johnennis
John Ennis
on x
Sometimes it's hard to tell if Dario is simply naïve or if he is dishonest He is extremely intelligent, so it's hard to believe he is naïve, but regulation has always favored incumbents This idea that you can support regulation that slows down big companies, but somehow favors
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@brianroemmele
Brian Roemmele
on x
“I SPEAK YOU LISTEN. I DON'T NEED TO INTERACT WITH YOU. I AM THE ACADEMIC, YOU ARE JUST PROPLE”
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@zephyr_z9
@zephyr_z9
on x
“Anthropic is ramping up its efforts very quickly in biology and medicine, and we hope to have incredible results in the coming years and some early glimmers in the coming months”
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@edzitron
Ed Zitron
on x
Game's on
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@austen
Austen Allred
on x
Lol. Lmfao.
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@deryatr_
Derya Unutmaz
on x
Mr. Amodei, I appreciate that you care so much about us that you even came to X to write this long post, despite how much you seem to hate being here among us. 🙏 But Mr. Amodei, please don't worry at all. We, the rest of humanity outside you and your company, are fully capable
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@elonmusk
Elon Musk
on x
Interesting exchange
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@quxiaoyin
Xiaoyin Qu
on x
Dear Dario, 1. If Claude can cure cancer to save people like your dad, why should we “pace the progress”? Does that mean more people with Hepatitis C will die? 2. If Fable is so cyber-capable that it must be restricted, why are its safeguards too dumb to distinguish cyber defense
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@farzyness
Farzad
on x
@elonmusk I think you should host an X space with all the AI leaders for multiple hours and flesh out all these ideas in front of the public. AI is very obviously going to change the world forever. I think it's going to be extremely important to be maximally transparent to build …
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@dee_bosa
Deirdre Bosa
on x
Really good/fascinating exchange but... don't quite buy that this is just a generalized crisis of trust that's part of a broader souring on tech Social media yes, but ppl *like* gmail and iPhones (my Taiwanese immigrant mom thinks google and youtube are pure magic bc its knowledg…
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@gavinsbaker
Gavin Baker
on x
Sholto, thank you for setting the record straight. Larger issue is that multiple very serious people in Silicon Valley have heard some variation of this and believe it to be true. And the reason it is believable to so many is that it is consistent with Dario's public messaging …
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@theo
@theo
on x
Kinda wild to see Dario blaming social media algorithms for hurting the public reputation of their text generation algorithms
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@mpopv
Matt Popovich
on x
Maybe the most incisive thing a public figure has said about anti AI backlash
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@lulumeservey
Lulu Cheng Meservey
on x
Some meta level observations: 1) Dario's tweets benefit from scarcity. The fact that he doesn't “spend much time” on X makes a tweet carry more weight and is itself a statement of seriousness 2) He (and Sholto) selected the right person to engage with. Gavin is an ideal
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@ccatalini
Christian Catalini
on x
“AI is structurally a technology that tends to concentrate power” is true of exactly one version of the future. Yours.
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@andrewcurran_
Andrew Curran
on x
Rare Dario post! This confirms the WSJ report that Anthropic is leaning heavily into healthcare. ‘Anthropic is ramping up its efforts very quickly in biology and medicine, and we hope to have incredible results in the coming years and some early glimmers in the coming months.’
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@stevesi
Steven Sinofsky
on x
@DarioAmodei You have literally said in just one essay, The Adolescence of Technology: “the single most serious national security threat we've faced in a century, possibly ever.” -The Adolescence of Technology (citing a hypothetical report) “Humanity needs to wake up.” “there is …
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@stevesi
Steven Sinofsky
on x
Over the past say 50 years I would love some examples you are considering of regulations and in what industry have not resulted in more concentration of markets...
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@johnennis
John Ennis
on x
As for messaging, give me a break This is a guy who goes on MSNBC saying that AI is going to take all the jobs and whose company runs advertisements with mass graves and burning houses in them Get a clue
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@anuatluru
Anu
on x
The co-founder/CEO of Anthropic wading into Twitter discourse to reestablish narrative while criticizing the focus on “messaging and marketing” is Silicon Valley insider media in all its meta glory. And it's a good move.
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@scaling01
@scaling01
on x
Anthropic is the Gardener
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@willdepue
Will Depue
on x
i really think dario should be writing a lot more in public, this was well done
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@signulll
@signulll
on x
@DarioAmodei i understand your dislike of social media but it would be immensely valuable for everyone if you participated in at least a subset of discourse on this platform. would greatly appreciate it.
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@altcap
Brad Gerstner
on x
Excellent, candid back & forth on complex subjects that benefit from a good faith Saturday afternoon exchange! Thx @_sholtodouglas & @GavinSBaker for kicking off & super helpful to have @DarioAmodei weigh in. 🙏
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@gavinsbaker
Gavin Baker
on x
@DarioAmodei Many thoughts. Most of all, I think it is great that you are engaging here in such a constructive, thoughtful way. Open dialogue is a great way to build trust with the public and these are difficult, weighty issues that I think deserve to be debated in the proverbial…
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@_sholtodouglas
Sholto Douglas
on x
This post is a good example of how Dario responds to people in slack - candor and substance. Recommended reading!
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@_sholtodouglas
Sholto Douglas
on x
[Responds to Gavin Baker's statement “Anthropic Believes They Could Be the ONLY Company Left in the World “] Completely false. I like Gavin's takes, but whoever he heard this from is lying so that it fits the narrative some people so desperately want you to believe. The same pe…
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r/accelerate
r
on reddit
“Anthropic is ramping up its efforts very quickly in biology and medicine, and we hope to have incredible results in the coming years …
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r/Anthropic
r
on reddit
Huge argument going on on 𝕏 had Dario respond to comment in there for the first time. It's lengthy, I couldn't screenshot it. …