Apple debuts $999 6.1" iPhone 12 Pro and $1,099 6.7" iPhone 12 Pro Max with flat-edge design, 5G, LiDAR, three rear cameras with 5x zoom, and 128GB base storage
Apple today unveiled the new 6.1-inch iPhone 12 Pro and 6.7-inch iPhone 12 Pro Max at its pre-recorded “Hi, Speed” digital event.
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Discussion
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@mkbhd
Marques Brownlee
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Apple: We didn't put a 120Hz display in the iPhone because honestly the average person won't even notice that type of thing Also Apple: 10 minutes of bragging on their 10-bit HDR Dolby Vision live image processing 😅
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@marcsettle
Marc Blank-Settle
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One advantage of the new (old) design of the iPhone 12 - it should be able to stay upright (on its side, not vertically) while recording of the surface is flat and level. #appleevent https://twitter.com/...
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@briantong
Brian Tong
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I have never been a big phone guy...NEVER I will not upgrade to 12 Pro Max for the camera... I will not upgrade to 12 Pro Max for the camera... I will not upgrade to 12 Pro Max for 5X camera... Lord give me the strength...🙏 #iPhone12Pro #AppleEvent https://twitter.com/...
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@trengriffin
Tren Griffin
on x
Get your 5G mmWave groove on in the US https://www.theverge.com/...
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@snazzyq
Quinn Nelson
on x
This gets even more confusing. So, the 12 Pro does not have the 65mm telephoto (it keeps the standard 50mm) and it also doesn't have sensor-OIS and the larger sensor. It retains the old system. Apple refuses to break this out properly in columns likely to blur 12 Max advantages. …
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@rossetantoine
Antoine Rosset
on x
Yes, it's true we were in the Apple Event for iPhone 12, today. https://www.apple.com/... https://twitter.com/...
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@migueldeicaza
Mighoul de Icaza
on x
Using LIDAR for auto-focus on the iPhone Pro is a stroke of genius. Glad people can use LIDAR for their AR stunts, but auto-focus in low-light conditions is fabulous.
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@jason
@jason
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Apple added a 2006 technology, #magsafe, to the iPhone with some crazy music & rapid cut shots, & is our here pretending it's innovative—& I'm here for it! It's like they're going back to Steve Jobs' greatest hits and remastering them... which feels like a great strategy TBH.
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@mims
Christopher Mims
on x
Lidar on a phone feels like a feature in search of a use. Like Apple is just leveraging the scale of its phone supply chain to make these sensors cheaper and less power hungry so eventually it can put it on some AR smart glasses.
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@bragonofbojima
Bearded Kiryu
on x
my phone after seeing this announcement https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...
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@dpreview
@dpreview
on x
Apple unveils 5G iPhone 12 Pro, 12 Pro Max devices with larger screens, better cameras and more https://www.dpreview.com/... https://twitter.com/...
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@jowens510
Jeremy C. Owens
on x
$AAPL closes down 2.7% at $121.10. Still worth $2.07 trillion.
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@jason
@jason
on x
Seriously, Apple's new iPhone 12 is a literal remix of Steve Jobs' greatest iPhone: the iPhone 5, MagSafe, & variations on color (rose gold)!🤦♂ ️ That's where Apple is in 2020: their biggest innovations are things Jobs did over a decade ago. https://twitter.com/... https://twitt…
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@stroughtonsmith
Steve Troughton-Smith
on x
It's definitely looking like a Pacific Blue Max kind of year. You had me at ‘47% larger camera sensor’
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@markgurman
Mark Gurman
on x
The iPhone 12 (all models) does indeed have the plastic window that looks like the iPad Pro Apple Pencil charger on the side with the power button. Apple didn't say what it's for. https://twitter.com/...
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@stroughtonsmith
Steve Troughton-Smith
on x
Another year, another set of AR features & demos that scream ‘just think about how much better this will be on a headset’
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@reneritchie
Rene Ritchie
on x
They just couldn't get enough LTPO panels from Samsung for the 120Hz adaptive at iPhone 12 scale. If they could, I bet we'd have seen 10 minutes on that as well. Easy. They even still have the slides from iPad Pro 2017. 😂 https://twitter.com/...
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@asymco
Horace Dediu
on x
LiDAR now in iPhone Pro. The applications are wider than expected: autofocus.
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@mkbhd
Marques Brownlee
on x
10-bit HDR Dolby Vision video recording at 4K, 60fps is just the biggest flex of image processing.
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@tapbot_paul
Paul Haddad
on x
Super Pro Raw Retina XDR Dolby HDR Sensor Shifted Night Mode Deep Fusion images are going to be da bomb!
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@tomwarren
Tom Warren
on x
The iPhone 12 Pro looks like a camera disguised as a phone. It has Apple ProRAW raw photos support, big low-light improvements, video recording in Dolby Vision HDR, and a LiDAR scanner. It's incredible how far Apple's chips have come https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.c…
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@joannastern
Joanna Stern
on x
You know what would be the ultimate move? Apple revealing this entire event was shot with an iPhone 12 Pro.
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@benbajarin
Ben Bajarin
on x
Apple really putting the Pro into the Pro line up lol.
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@lanceulanoff
Lance Ulanoff
on x
10-bit high dynamic range video recording on the iPhone12 Pro. it will also record in Dolby Vision HDR. #AppleEvent https://twitter.com/...
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@patrickmcgee_
Patrick McGee
on x
Bigger display for iPhone 12 Pro is 6.7 inches — largest ever for iPhone.
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@b3ll
Adam Bell
on x
As usual, now the iPhone 11 Pro feels deprecated / eclipsed (yet still better than any android phone) compared to the newer 12 phones. Apple's very good at dunking on their own hardware
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@samsheffer
Sam Sheffer
on x
that blue iPhone 12 Pro is HOT
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@tapbot_paul
Paul Haddad
on x
Still the same 2/4 CPU on the Pros, wonder if Apple will ever go beyond 2 big cores on phones.
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@yoda
Drew Olanoff
on x
the iPhone 12 XR Max Pro https://twitter.com/...
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@patrickmcgee_
Patrick McGee
on x
Pro Max version of the iPhone has better cameras. Massive wide lens — w/ sensor 47% larger, giving 87% improvement in low-light.
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@benbajarin
Ben Bajarin
on x
Apple differentiating the camera system on iPhone 12 Pro Max, like they used to when Max had OIS and others didn't. Apple differentiating the camera system on iPhone 12 Pro Max, as they used to when Max had OIS and others didn't.
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@trengriffin
Tren Griffin
on x
A cutout does not “work as an antenna.” And this: “5G works based on low range frequencies, the antenna structure was redesigned to work as expected, and this resulted in a new cutout on the side edge of the iPhone 12.” Isn't even wrong. https://9to5mac.com/...
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@jon_prosser
Jon Prosser
on x
it's absolutely ridiculous how good the iphone 12 looks https://twitter.com/...
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@stroughtonsmith
Steve Troughton-Smith
on x
Oh boy, the iPhone screen resolutions are giving me a headache already. Seems like the 6.1" models both have a new screen layout that is *smaller* than last year's 6.1" model iPhone 11 & XR: 414 x 896 pt iPhone 12 & 12 Pro: 390 x 844 pt
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@snazzyq
Quinn Nelson
on x
Night Mode coming to every iPhone on both front and back cameras. Nice!
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@happicamp
James Bareham
on x
The new design is so clean. This is the best looking iPhone in years https://twitter.com/...
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@markgurman
Mark Gurman
on x
The SIM-Free, T-Mobile and Sprint iPhone 12 and 12 mini are $30 more than the Verizon and AT&T versions. $729 versus $699 starting prices. https://www.bloomberg.com/... https://twitter.com/...
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@mkbhd
Marques Brownlee
on x
If you're looking for a huge feature to justify the higher prices than 12 and 12 mini: There is none. It's a bunch of smaller, impressive improvements focused on the cameras and media experience. All that said, the coolest new feature of any of these phones is MagSafe.
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@benbajarin
Ben Bajarin
on x
Apple claiming the A14 is generations ahead of competing chips is telling about their silicon strategy.
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@neilcybart
Neil Cybart
on x
In ~10 years, Apple went from having one person (Steve) handle an entire product unveiling to having 10+ people talk about new features and products in their domain.
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@pinboard
@pinboard
on x
New iPhone will give you covid https://twitter.com/...
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@deantak
Dean Takahashi
on x
Apple's new iPhone 12 models are coming with a new 5-nanometer A14 Bionic chip with more than 11.8 billion transistors. The new chip has six CPU cores, including two high-performance cores. Apple says the chip is 50% faster than any other smartphone chip. https://twitter.com/...
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@mkbhd
Marques Brownlee
on x
Ok so MagSafe for iPhone: Helps you line up wireless chargers better (why has no one done this before) MagSafe accessories like cases and a charger can snap onto the back of the iPhone MagSafe Duo charger: Sorry AirPower I love this. https://twitter.com/...
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@mkbhd
Marques Brownlee
on x
New dual 12MP cameras Wider f/1.6 aperture Should make for better low light and portrait performance. But most of the camera improvements we're seeing these days come with software like SmartHDR3. And night mode coming to the front facing camera 👍🏾 https://twitter.com/...
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@benedictevans
Benedict Evans
on x
Each new iPhone CPU has 11.8bn transistors. That's about half as many as all the CPUs in all the Macs Apple sold when it launched in 1984
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@lanceulanoff
Lance Ulanoff
on x
Apple iPhone 12 has a Wide and Ultrawide camera. #AppleEvent https://twitter.com/...
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@techledes
Connie Guglielmo
on x
Apple has worked with over 100 carriers to deliver 5G on iPhone 12. Here are some of them. #AppleEvent https://twitter.com/...
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@stshank
Stephen Shankland
on x
Smart: the iPhone 12 will use 4G LTE until 5G speeds are needed, I imagine to improve battery life. 5G delivers 3.5Gbps under “ideal conditions,” Apple says. 4Gbps with millimeter-wave best conditions, 1Gbps under typical conditions. #AppleEvent
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@willoremus
Will Oremus
on x
What do you call the person at Apple whose job it is to choose how many nits the new iPhone display should have
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@jacknicas
Jack Nicas
on x
Apple just said the iPhone 12 screen will be 4x less likely to crack if you drop it, which is terrible news for the iPhone repair kiosks at the mall. #AppleEvent
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@tomwarren
Tom Warren
on x
iPhone 12 gets 5G, flat edges, higher resolution display, and Ceramic Shield on the display. Pretty great for the non-Pro model https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/...
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@karlbode
Karl Bode
on x
Don't believe the 5G hype. U.S. 5G networks are spotty, dramatically slower than overseas networks, and in many cases aren't even faster than 4G. My latest at @ozm: https://debugger.medium.com/ ...
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@thurrott
Paul Thurrott
on x
This is the same room they used to test the iPhone 4. So you know the antennas are just fine. AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA
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@patrickmcgee_
Patrick McGee
on x
Apple says the iPhone 12 has “the most 5G bands of any smartphone”
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@patrickmcgee_
Patrick McGee
on x
Smart data mode: “When your iPhone doesn't need 5G speeds, it automatically uses LTE to save battery.”
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@macrumorslive
@macrumorslive
on x
iPhone 12 features a “Ceramic Shield” display that “goes beyond glass” with a nano ceramic crystal matrix to improve toughness. It's “tougher than any smartphone glass” and “makes iPhone more durable than ever.” 4x better drop performance.
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@kifleswing
Kif
on x
significant. mmwave is only available in the U.S. for now and there were hopes that the iPhone 12 would spur networks in Japan and UK to embrace it https://twitter.com/...
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@firstadopter
Tae Kim
on x
Verizon put out the press release details of its “nationwide” 5G network (strangely, near the end of the iPhone event). As expected, it's not the super fast mmWave version, but a much slower lower band -> https://www.verizon.com/... https://twitter.com/...
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@techau
@techau
on x
This is bad news for @Telstra “mmWave, which operates on higher frequencies like the 26GHz Telstra is using for live trials” https://twitter.com/...
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@petethamel
Pete Thamel
on x
Great news for @Verizon, @verizonmedia and @YahooSports. 💨💨💨💨 https://twitter.com/...
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@robert_spalding
General Spalding
on x
The US is the only country that is pushing mmWave, because thanks to telecom lobbyists we believe policy trumps science and engineering. https://twitter.com/...
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@gregjoz
Greg Joswiak
on x
Today is the beginning of a new era with iPhone 12. https://www.apple.com/...
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@tprstly
Theo Priestley
on x
It's so sad that you literally have a 3D scanner in your pocket and the best Snapchat can come out with is yet another pointless filter. https://twitter.com/...
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@brianroemmele
Brian Roemmele
on x
Snapchat is wired for the Apple LIDAR and AR. New uses and use case will be announced almost daily as Apple developers expand the use of a pocket LIDAR system. https://twitter.com/...
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@markgurman
Mark Gurman
on x
Look for the iPhone SE box to shrink considerably. Also for the USB-A to Lightning cable to become a USB-C to Lightning cable. Headphones out too.
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@markgurman
Mark Gurman
on x
In addition to removing the charging adapter from the newest iPhones today, look for Apple to do the same for the SE and other iPhones it'll keep selling.
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@dannysullivan
Danny Sullivan
on x
If I could just get an iPhone that uses USB-C, they could also drop the Lightning to USB-C cable, and I'd be so happy. So happy. https://www.techmeme.com/...
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@benedictevans
Benedict Evans
on x
Apple removing the headphone jack - ‘courage’ Apple removing headphones and chargers from the box because you already have them - ‘good for the planet’ Both probably good decisions but 🤣
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@snazzyq
Quinn Nelson
on x
iPhone 12 mini has the exact same feature set as the larger iPhone 12. I CAN'T WAIT TO BUY IT I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS SINCE LIKE 2015.
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@joannastern
Joanna Stern
on x
Let's all remember the real iPhone Mini. My video breaking down all the new iPhone 12 models from my basement, now on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/... https://twitter.com/...
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@casey
Casey Neistat
on x
i still think im gonna get the mini. i carry around a huge camera at all times, i think im prob ok without all that fancy video stuff. right? is there someone who can help me wth this?
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@dtrinh
Danny Trinh
on x
First time, in years, where I've been this giddy about an iPhone release — even in the post-Steve world of everything leaking. Give me that mini.
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@ishanagarwal24
Ishan Agarwal
on x
The amazing reveal of 5.4-inch iPhone 12 mini with James Bond theme. Exact same features as iPhone 12! Smallest 5G phone in the world. The iPhone 12 & 12 mini. #AppleEvent #iPhone12 #iPhone https://twitter.com/...
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@alexhern
Alex Hern
on x
Also, Apple shouldn't be selling a 64GB iPhone, and you shouldn't buy one. That thing is going to run out of space the second you turn it on, and if you're a price sensitive buyer, you probably won't have an iCloud subscription to offload things to
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@alexhern
Alex Hern
on x
Might downgrade to the iPhone 12 Mini. I justified the iPhone 11 Pro to myself by arguing that it was the smallest phone, but now I don't have that defence, and paying £200 to get a phone that is larger than I'd like, just because it has a better camera, feels silly
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@tomwarren
Tom Warren
on x
Apple just announced the iPhone 12 mini. It's the first time Apple has used “mini” on the iPhone, and it has all the specs of the iPhone 12 squeezed into a smaller package. Details: https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/...
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@samsheffer
Sam Sheffer
on x
imagine seeing a mini iPhone with a 5.4-inch screen when we had a 3.5-inch 4 lol
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@redletterdave
Dave Smith
on x
iPhone 12 Mini: $700 iPhone 12: $800 Pretty good!
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@ejacqui
Jacqui Cheng
on x
Feel like I've been waiting 15 years for iPhone mini.
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@panzer
Matthew Panzarino
on x
iPhone 12 mini $699 / iPhone 12 $799 base models. Verizon has special financing on both with trade in of iPhone X or newer. https://twitter.com/...
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@mcwm
Mike Murphy
on x
the 12 mini is adorable
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@nevilleray
Neville
on x
So @verizon finally started talking about having 5G “nationwide” but they are using Dynamic Spectrum Sharing (DSS) to try and pull it off. Now... let me tell you what they don't want you to know about DSS... https://twitter.com/...
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@jsnell
Jason Snell
on x
@caro_milanesi I really wonder what that quid pro quo was. Apple event time is precious and Verizon got it.
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@mohossain
Mo Hossain
on x
“US carriers were offering 5G on a part of the spectrum lacking in bandwidth capacity, meaning that avg 5G download speeds were just 52 megabytes per second ...By contrast, average 5G download speeds in the UK were 138 Mbps, nearly 6x faster than 4G and 4x faster than WiFi” @FT h…
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@only1sophia
Sophia Garcia
on x
@chrisrock reminisces about life's slowness before @Apple iPhone 12 and @Verizon 5G. 5G Just Got Real! 👏🏽📱🎤 🙌🏽 #IamVZ #5GBuiltRight #5GJustGotReal #ForwardTogether #Apple #iPhone12 #Proud2BVZ https://adage.com/...
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@mgsiegler
M.G. Siegler
on x
Good to know that the iPhone 12 can downgrade to 4G seamlessly until 5G is ready in 2025. #AppleEvent
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@caro_milanesi
Carolina Milanesi
on x
Interesting points from @jsnell more transparency on the pricing would have been useful. On the time dedicated to Verizon, I wonder how much the format played a role in the decision https://twitter.com/...
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@stevesi
Steven Sinofsky
on x
The pricing makes it clear why a carrier got so much airtime.
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@wongmjane
Jane Manchun Wong
on x
Tim Cook is socially distancing from Verizon's Hans Vestberg but it looks kinda awkward #AppleEvent https://twitter.com/...
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@kevinroose
Kevin Roose
on x
There's something charmingly nostalgic about tech reporters live-tweeting an Apple event like we're in the Before Times. Feels like our version of the guys who put on tricorn hats and re-enact the Constitutional Convention.
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@mgsiegler
M.G. Siegler
on x
These new iPhone cameras look and sound great.* *If we can ever go outside again. #AppleEvent
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@macrumorslive
@macrumorslive
on x
Verizon is turning on its 5G nationwide network, which is its sub-6GHz 5G. It's not quite as fast as mmWave, but it will be much more widely available. 5G will be available in 1800 cities and towns.
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@joannastern
Joanna Stern
on x
OK, I am VERY into MagSafe for iPhone. Wireless charging up to 15 watts is huge and wallets! https://twitter.com/...
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@tomwarren
Tom Warren
on x
iPhone 12 has MagSafe, which allows the new iPhone to magnetically attach to chargers, wallets, and other accessories https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/...
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@dmoren
Dan Moren
on x
Also, that cool MagSafe Duo charger? No availability date yet. You'd think Apple would have learned something about pre-announcing a wireless charger. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://twitter.com/...
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@ijustine
@ijustine
on x
Hyped for 3rd party MagSafe accessories but love this foldable charger from Apple #AppleEvent https://twitter.com/...
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@ijustine
@ijustine
on x
Hyped for 3rd party MagSafe accessories but love this foldable charger from Apple #AppleEvent https://twitter.com/...
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@neilcybart
Neil Cybart
on x
MagSafe for iPhone. Your iPhone will now be your wallet literally - you can now attach your Apple Card to the outside of your iPhone.
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@kenli729
Kenneth Li
on x
the most exciting apple stuff so far (to me only): mag safe accessories
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@pinboard
@pinboard
on x
Do you miss MagSafe on your laptop? Well fuck you, here it is on your phone! And they use a custom nanocrystalline shield to capture magnetic flux! Apple must have hired a ton of L'Oreal scientists this year because everything now has nanocrystals https://twitter.com/...
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@dankwone
Dr. Dankman
on x
@Techmeme @nickstatt Now when your iPhone is stolen they get your wallet too!
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@markgurman
Mark Gurman
on x
“MagSafe Duo Charger and Leather Sleeve will be available at a later date.”
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@benedictevans
Benedict Evans
on x
Lot of people have tried to make a snap-on accessory model for smartphones (most recently LG). It never worked, partly because they never had the volume. Apple will. So do we get a real base of third party iPhone-only widgets?
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@ihnatko
Andy Ihnatko
on x
MagSafe for iPhone - accessories snap onto the iPhone. Yes, the wireless charger but also cases, a card wallet...with sensors so it can tell what's connected. Like a case accessory with a cutout for reading the time. VERY neat...so obvious, it was just right there.
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@bzamayo
Benjamin Mayo
on x
LOL at the MagSafe “clear” cases https://twitter.com/...
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@asymco
Horace Dediu
on x
MagSafe is MagNificent.
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@stephennellis
Stephen Nellis
on x
Apple, don't even use that MagSafe name until you give it back on the Mac. It was one of the best features ever and saved my expensive laptops numerous times, and you took it away to make laptops half a millimeter thinner or whatever.
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@thurrott
Paul Thurrott
on x
MagSafe. What's old is boring again.
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@om
@om
on x
Magnets on iPhone aka Magsafe is going to mess up many wristwatches. God Damn..... #AppleEvent
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@panzer
Matthew Panzarino
on x
Gonna be honest, the MagSafe accessory system is funnnnn. Love the dual use situation. Folding NotAirPower is nice too. https://twitter.com/...
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@dcseifert
Dan Seifert
on x
it's “only $30”, but obfuscating the actual price behind carrier incentives that are not available to everyone is a real lousy thing to do https://twitter.com/...
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@dcseifert
Dan Seifert
on x
great that Apple didn't raise the price of the Pro models and increased the base storage of them, but the person buying the mid-range, AKA the most popular models, is really getting squeezed this year
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@dcseifert
Dan Seifert
on x
Best Buy does this all the time, advertising phones that are $50 less than elsewhere, but require you to activate service to get that discount. At least that's available with all the carriers Best Buy offers though, you're just SOL here if you're not on AT&T or Verizon.
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@phonesoldier
Shubham Agarwal
on x
So not only did Apple remove chargers and earphones from iPhone boxes, they've raised the base price by 30 bucks. #appleevent https://twitter.com/...
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@jonbjohns
Spoopy Johns
on x
Apple has been keen on not showing the actual prices of their phones on their website for years. This is the first time I know of that they are deceiving in their presentation that I know of. https://twitter.com/...
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@rileytestut
Riles
on x
WTF is this bullshit https://twitter.com/...
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@bzamayo
Benjamin Mayo
on x
This is truly despicable marketing from Apple: the $799 iPhone 12 is actually $829. https://9to5mac.com/...
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@padresj
Fr. Robert R. Ballecer
on x
Apple is selling a $20 20W USB-C adapter for their new iPhone w/Lightning to USB-C cable. Don't buy it. Instead, buy the @AnkerOfficial PowerPort Atom PD1. It's the same price, but delivers 30W and can power your laptop just as easily as your phone. https://www.amazon.com/...
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@reckless
Nilay Patel
on x
Also, all new iPhones can create Dolby Vision HDR video. I say “create” because they are capturing 10-bit HLG HDR video and then exporting a Dolby Vision encode, which is 1. logically what you would expect and 2. very impressive for a phone!