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WSJ's Facebook Files don't show that Facebook's execs are evil or incompetent, but highlight their hubris in believing they can get things back under control

Read in app Shannon Bond / NPR : Senators Blast Facebook For Concealing Instagram's Risks To Kids Tweets: Laura Edelson / @lauraedelson2 : So now it is abundantly clear. @JeffHorwitz and the @WSJ weren't cherry-picking, but actually only reporting the tip of the iceberg. If you're a teen or tween who struggles with mental health issues, IG is not a safe place. And many young people are struggling. 1/ Ellen K. Pao / @ekp : Researchers at Facebook went through the trouble to put together a damning set of slides about how Instagram harms girls, and apparently no one in leadership did anything https://twitter.com/... Mike Masnick / @mmasnick : I am assuming that Facebook haters will (wrongly) assume this post defends FB, while FB defenders will (wrongly) see this as me being unfair to FB. So, everyone should hate this article where I (once again) try to add in some nuance. https://www.techdirt.com/... Mark Little / @marklittlenews : “Decently smart, and decently competent people... who have ended up in an impossible situation and don't recognize that they can't solve it all alone” This wonderfully nuanced take from ⁦@mmasnick⁩ will reward your attention. https://www.techdirt.com/... Jon Evans / @rezendi : “None of this is to say that this is okay, or that Facebook shouldn't be trying to figure out ways to minimize people using the sites being made to feel worse about themselves. But the reporting decisions here do raise some questions.” https://www.techdirt.com/... Josh Elman / @joshelman : Wow this is a great take on Facebook. In too deep seems just right. No platform has ever connected the world at this scale beyond the major religions. https://twitter.com/... Jesse Lehrich / @jesselehrich : lmao. @mmasnick's entire schtick is mocking anyone who supports tech reforms as obvious, pathetic idiots. yet when Facebook's own research shows it exacerbates *teen suicide* (!!) Mike waxes poetic about how nobody is willing to be nuanced anymore. 🤔 https://www.techdirt.com/... https://twitter.com/... Jonathan Greenblatt / @jgreenblattadl : With the explicit knowledge that their algorithms promote extremism, incite violence, and exacerbate mental health crises, Facebook puts profit over people. 5.8M users can spread hate speech, unchecked, while profits rise to $100B. #StopHateForProfit https://www.adl.org/... Justin Hendrix / @justinhendrix : Good read from Mike. Though, I'd add: the instinct to perpetually assure the world that FB has all these things under control and is surely doing all it conceivably can and investing an awful lot.... comes from the top. Mark can't admit he doesn't have a handle on it all. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/... Laura Edelson / @lauraedelson2 : Also, I am just in awe of the bravery of the whistleblower who leaked this. We all owe this person a serious debt. Laura Edelson / @lauraedelson2 : If you worked on this research, thank you. It's robust and tells us things that are vitally important to know. The fact this work got buried is shameful. And those annotations... did the tobacco companies throw their own scientists under the bus this hard? I don't think so. Jon Lovett / @jonlovett : Still thinking about the presentation at Facebook where someone says “Our platform turns teen girls into grieving widows mourning the death of their own self-esteem.” I guess that meeting wraps and everyone just goes to their next zoom? Scott Galloway / @profgalloway : They knew, in great detail. #Facebook is a menace. https://twitter.com/... Parker / @pt : A nuanced take. 🤯 https://twitter.com/... Cat / @kirkpams : This is a great read that strikes me as the right nuance. “I think Facebook's executive team (1) is in deeper than they realize, and (2) falsely thinks it has a better handle on things than it really does.” Agreed. With apologies to Rick James, hubris is a hell of a drug. https://twitter.com/... Alex Kantrowitz / @kantrowitz : Facebook could say: The research is right. It's in our long-term interest to keep our users happy, but right now we're failing. At least we're studying it. Give us some time to make the following fixes... Instead: Our researchers are bad and so is the press @martinfehrensen : “I don't think the Facebook Files show a company that is evil or incompetent. It seems to show a company that is in way too deep, but still thinks it can totally get things back under control.” - @mmasnick https://www.techdirt.com/... Katie Harbath / @katieharbath : This is worth a read: “I don't think the Facebook Files show a company that is evil or incompetent. It seems to show a company that is in way too deep, but still thinks it can totally get things back under control.” https://twitter.com/... Deepa Seetharaman / @dseetharaman : “I think Facebook's executive team (1) is in deeper than they realize, and (2) falsely thinks it has a better handle on things than it really does.” https://twitter.com/... Laura Edelson / @lauraedelson2 : But there's a clearly visible problem for upper management when you get to the researcher's recommendations: some of the key triggers for NSC they identify (celebrity and unattainable aspirational culture) is the stuff we know to be highly profitable. 3/ Laura Edelson / @lauraedelson2 : Facebook researchers were working hard to understand exactly why this was. They did some robust research identifying *what* exactly was going on (negative social comparison) and *why* (specific authors and types of content). There are even some ideas for making things better. 2/

Techdirt Mike Masnick

Context & Ripple Effects

The Facebook Files deepen a pre-existing record of internal warnings being set aside: related coverage previously reported that Zuckerberg and other leaders shelved research on Facebook’s polarizing effects. The new disclosures shift the focus from isolated content-moderation failures to leadership’s handling of evidence about Instagram’s effects on young users.

Facebook had already faced criticism that its scale gave Zuckerberg outsized power with limited oversight; the whistleblower material makes the gap between internal research and public accountability more concrete.

First-order effects

  • Facebook and Instagram face intensified scrutiny from U.S. senators after internal research on harms to young users was leaked, increasing pressure on executives to account for what they knew and what actions they took.
  • The disclosures undermine Facebook’s ability to present youth-safety problems as issues already under control, because the reported research and recommendations were reportedly not acted upon.

Second-order effects

  • Lawmakers’ attention is likely to concentrate on Facebook and Instagram’s youth-safety practices, even as related coverage notes that policy debate has largely overlooked TikTok’s use by teens.
  • Facebook’s advertising resilience, previously framed as protection against criticism and regulatory headwinds, becomes a governance liability when its business strength is paired with evidence that internal warnings did not produce visible product changes.

Third-order effects

  • The episode points toward platform governance in which internal research, escalation paths, and executive response become central objects of oversight—not merely individual harmful posts or takedown totals.
  • If disclosures continue to show a pattern of buried research, trust becomes a core operating constraint for large social platforms: credibility will depend on whether their safety claims can be reconciled with their internal evidence.

The trend: Social-platform oversight is moving from policing visible content toward examining whether company governance acts on its own evidence of product harm.

Discussion

  • @lauraedelson2 Laura Edelson on x
    So now it is abundantly clear. @JeffHorwitz and the @WSJ weren't cherry-picking, but actually only reporting the tip of the iceberg. If you're a teen or tween who struggles with mental health issues, IG is not a safe place. And many young people are struggling. 1/
  • @ekp Ellen K. Pao on x
    Researchers at Facebook went through the trouble to put together a damning set of slides about how Instagram harms girls, and apparently no one in leadership did anything https://twitter.com/...
  • @mmasnick Mike Masnick on x
    I am assuming that Facebook haters will (wrongly) assume this post defends FB, while FB defenders will (wrongly) see this as me being unfair to FB. So, everyone should hate this article where I (once again) try to add in some nuance. https://www.techdirt.com/...
  • @jonlovett Jon Lovett on x
    Still thinking about the presentation at Facebook where someone says “Our platform turns teen girls into grieving widows mourning the death of their own self-esteem.” I guess that meeting wraps and everyone just goes to their next zoom?
  • @justinhendrix Justin Hendrix on x
    Good read from Mike. Though, I'd add: the instinct to perpetually assure the world that FB has all these things under control and is surely doing all it conceivably can and investing an awful lot.... comes from the top. Mark can't admit he doesn't have a handle on it all. https:/…
  • @marklittlenews Mark Little on x
    “Decently smart, and decently competent people... who have ended up in an impossible situation and don't recognize that they can't solve it all alone” This wonderfully nuanced take from ⁦@mmasnick⁩ will reward your attention. https://www.techdirt.com/...
  • @rezendi Jon Evans on x
    “None of this is to say that this is okay, or that Facebook shouldn't be trying to figure out ways to minimize people using the sites being made to feel worse about themselves. But the reporting decisions here do raise some questions.” https://www.techdirt.com/...
  • @joshelman Josh Elman on x
    Wow this is a great take on Facebook. In too deep seems just right. No platform has ever connected the world at this scale beyond the major religions. https://twitter.com/...
  • @lauraedelson2 Laura Edelson on x
    Also, I am just in awe of the bravery of the whistleblower who leaked this. We all owe this person a serious debt.
  • @jesselehrich Jesse Lehrich on x
    lmao. @mmasnick's entire schtick is mocking anyone who supports tech reforms as obvious, pathetic idiots. yet when Facebook's own research shows it exacerbates *teen suicide* (!!) Mike waxes poetic about how nobody is willing to be nuanced anymore. 🤔 https://www.techdirt.com/... …
  • @lauraedelson2 Laura Edelson on x
    If you worked on this research, thank you. It's robust and tells us things that are vitally important to know. The fact this work got buried is shameful. And those annotations... did the tobacco companies throw their own scientists under the bus this hard? I don't think so.
  • @jgreenblattadl Jonathan Greenblatt on x
    With the explicit knowledge that their algorithms promote extremism, incite violence, and exacerbate mental health crises, Facebook puts profit over people. 5.8M users can spread hate speech, unchecked, while profits rise to $100B. #StopHateForProfit https://www.adl.org/...
  • @profgalloway Scott Galloway on x
    They knew, in great detail. #Facebook is a menace. https://twitter.com/...
  • @pt Parker on x
    A nuanced take. 🤯 https://twitter.com/...
  • @kirkpams Cat on x
    This is a great read that strikes me as the right nuance. “I think Facebook's executive team (1) is in deeper than they realize, and (2) falsely thinks it has a better handle on things than it really does.” Agreed. With apologies to Rick James, hubris is a hell of a drug. https:/…
  • @kantrowitz Alex Kantrowitz on x
    Facebook could say: The research is right. It's in our long-term interest to keep our users happy, but right now we're failing. At least we're studying it. Give us some time to make the following fixes... Instead: Our researchers are bad and so is the press
  • @martinfehrensen @martinfehrensen on x
    “I don't think the Facebook Files show a company that is evil or incompetent. It seems to show a company that is in way too deep, but still thinks it can totally get things back under control.” - @mmasnick https://www.techdirt.com/...
  • @katieharbath Katie Harbath on x
    This is worth a read: “I don't think the Facebook Files show a company that is evil or incompetent. It seems to show a company that is in way too deep, but still thinks it can totally get things back under control.” https://twitter.com/...
  • @dseetharaman Deepa Seetharaman on x
    “I think Facebook's executive team (1) is in deeper than they realize, and (2) falsely thinks it has a better handle on things than it really does.” https://twitter.com/...
  • @lauraedelson2 Laura Edelson on x
    But there's a clearly visible problem for upper management when you get to the researcher's recommendations: some of the key triggers for NSC they identify (celebrity and unattainable aspirational culture) is the stuff we know to be highly profitable. 3/
  • @lauraedelson2 Laura Edelson on x
    Facebook researchers were working hard to understand exactly why this was. They did some robust research identifying *what* exactly was going on (negative social comparison) and *why* (specific authors and types of content). There are even some ideas for making things better. 2/