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Sources and documents: Zuckerberg and others shelved damning research into Facebook's polarizing effect, weakening efforts to apply its conclusions to products

and refuses to stop Charlesarthur / The Overspill : Start Up No.1317: Facebook knew it was polarising, ban Trump's Twitter?, how Bill Gates became … Anmol Mehrotra / Neowin : Facebook reportedly knew its algorithms were dividing people yet did nothing Tweets: Deepa Seetharaman / @dseetharaman : New from @JeffHorwitz & me: Facebook spent years studying the its role in polarization, according to sources and internal documents. One internal slide laid out the issue like so. “Our algorithms exploit the human brain's attraction to divisiveness.” https://www.wsj.com/... Guy Rosen / @guyro : I want to address claims raised in today's @WSJ story, which cites old research to falsely suggest we aren't invested in fighting polarization. The reality is we didn't adopt some of the product suggestions cited because we pursued alternatives we believe are more effective. 1/8 Zeynep Tufekci / @zeynep : Facebook's own researchers found that “64% of all extremist group joins are due to our recommendation tools” and that “our recommendation systems grow the problem.” Facebook VP for policy Joel Kaplan (known for throwing a party for Kavanaugh after confirmation) nixed any action. https://twitter.com/... Kevin Roose / @kevinroose : The most persistent myth about Facebook is that it naively bumbles its way into trouble. It has always known what it is, and what it's doing to society. https://www.wsj.com/... @mozilla : According to the @WSJ, a 2018 internal report from @Facebook showed that their “algorithms exploit the human brain's attraction to divisiveness” 😬 https://www.wsj.com/... Then they largely shelved the research. Do you think Facebook should #ReleaseTheResearch? Deepa Seetharaman / @dseetharaman : The concern predates the election. A 2016 slide shows showed extremist content thriving in more than one-third of large German political groups. “64% of all extremist group joins are due to our recommendation tools.” “Our recommendation systems grow the problem.” Olivia Solon / @oliviasolon : Facebook did research in 2016 that showed how its own recommendation tools helped drive growth to extremists groups “64% of all extremist group joins are due to our recommendation tools” https://www.wsj.com/... Alex Stamos / @alexstamos : A core problem at Facebook is that one policy org is responsible for both the rules of the platform and keeping governments happy. https://twitter.com/... Deepa Seetharaman / @dseetharaman : The “common ground” team at Facebook wasn't trying to change people's minds. They were trying to stop the vilification of the other side. And they came up with different product ideas to tone down the rhetoric on Facebook. https://twitter.com/... Karissa Bell / @karissabe : Facebook's own internal research found the majority of people joining extremist groups did so as a result of Facebook's recommendation algorithms https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/... Will Oremus / @willoremus : Facebook's stated mission is “to bring the world closer together.” Its own research showed the social network was instead driving polarization, tribalism, and extremism. Rather than change course, Facebook's top executives opted to bury the research. https://www.wsj.com/... Will Oremus / @willoremus : This story tells you an awful lot about the kind of company Facebook is, and what it cares about most. https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/... Deepa Seetharaman / @dseetharaman : But top executives shelved the effort. Policy exec Joel Kaplan considered the initiative “paternalistic,” per sources. The moves also affected right-leaning pages too much & risked growth. More here: https://www.wsj.com/... Jonathan Wong / @armchairdude : Facebook's mission is to “bring the world closer together”. I've never seen a company fail so hard at its mission before. https://www.techmeme.com/... Hannah Jane Parkinson / @ladyhaja : “A 2016 presentation states that 64% of all extremist group joins are due to our recommendation tools.” Brilliant reporting on how Facebook became divisive, combative & outright dangerous — and how Zuckberg ended up dismissing internal plans to fix that. https://www.wsj.com/... Mike Elgan / @mikeelgan : This is amazing: Facebook admits that 64% of the people on Facebook who joined extremist groups did so because FACEBOOK RECOMMENDED THEY JOIN EXTREMIST GROUPS. https://twitter.com/... Kurt Andersen / @kbandersen : I really am curious how Zuckerberg and Sandberg and the rest of them rationalize to themselves all the gratuitous damage they're doing to society. https://twitter.com/... Matthew Brooker / @mbrookerhk : “In essence, Facebook is under fire for making the world more divided. Many of its own experts appeared to agree—and to believe Facebook could mitigate many of the problems. The company chose not to.” https://www.wsj.com/... via @WSJ Rachel Morris / @rachelmorris : “Mr. Zuckerberg also signaled he was losing interest in the effort to recalibrate the platform in the name of social good, they said, asking that they not bring him something like that again.” https://twitter.com/... Alex Thompson / @alxthomp : interesting thread from FB's former chief security officer https://twitter.com/... @slpng_giants : Good primer on the dissonance between enforcement of Terms of Service versus fear of government regulation/retaliation here by former @facebook CSO. https://twitter.com/... @mims : Cigarette companies: found out their product caused cancer, covered it up Oil and gas: knew about climate change, buried it Facebook: https://www.wsj.com/... Chet Faliszek / @chetfaliszek : If you work at @facebook or @oculus, don't worry this isn't your concern. You should wait for Brad Pitt or Matt Damon to help - people stepping up and doing the right thing only happens in movies. As @boztank has repeatedly made it clear, don't expect FB to do the right thing. https://twitter.com/... Jordan Weissmann / @jhweissmann : Facebook's engineers confirmed it was polarizing users, and algorithms were nudging users into extremist content. But hard-right groups were more likely to spread propaganda than hard-left ones. Guess what happened next. https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/... Nina Jankowicz / @wiczipedia : This article has been gnawing at me all day. I have been making noise about the cesspools that are groups for years. It's so frustrating to read that fixes meant to keep people from a quick slide into the pits of conspiracyland was viewed by FB leadership as “paternalistic.” https://twitter.com/... Matt Klinman / @mattklinman : The clear problem with ppl at FB is they don't (or choose not to) grasp the platform itself changes how people are (on and off the platform). They insist “if people we better, FB would be better” but there simply is no “authentic behavior” on Facebook, only “Facebook behavior” https://twitter.com/... Ben Collins / @oneunderscore__ : And the people who've been reporting on this for years are met with complete derision and sometimes outright lies by those at Facebook when we bring it up. https://twitter.com/...

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Discussion

  • @dseetharaman Deepa Seetharaman on x
    New from @JeffHorwitz & me: Facebook spent years studying the its role in polarization, according to sources and internal documents. One internal slide laid out the issue like so. “Our algorithms exploit the human brain's attraction to divisiveness.” https://www.wsj.com/...
  • @guyro Guy Rosen on x
    I want to address claims raised in today's @WSJ story, which cites old research to falsely suggest we aren't invested in fighting polarization. The reality is we didn't adopt some of the product suggestions cited because we pursued alternatives we believe are more effective. 1/8
  • @zeynep Zeynep Tufekci on x
    Facebook's own researchers found that “64% of all extremist group joins are due to our recommendation tools” and that “our recommendation systems grow the problem.” Facebook VP for policy Joel Kaplan (known for throwing a party for Kavanaugh after confirmation) nixed any action. …
  • @kevinroose Kevin Roose on x
    The most persistent myth about Facebook is that it naively bumbles its way into trouble. It has always known what it is, and what it's doing to society. https://www.wsj.com/...
  • @mozilla @mozilla on x
    According to the @WSJ, a 2018 internal report from @Facebook showed that their “algorithms exploit the human brain's attraction to divisiveness” 😬 https://www.wsj.com/... Then they largely shelved the research. Do you think Facebook should #ReleaseTheResearch?
  • @dseetharaman Deepa Seetharaman on x
    The concern predates the election. A 2016 slide shows showed extremist content thriving in more than one-third of large German political groups. “64% of all extremist group joins are due to our recommendation tools.” “Our recommendation systems grow the problem.”
  • @oliviasolon Olivia Solon on x
    Facebook did research in 2016 that showed how its own recommendation tools helped drive growth to extremists groups “64% of all extremist group joins are due to our recommendation tools” https://www.wsj.com/...
  • @alexstamos Alex Stamos on x
    A core problem at Facebook is that one policy org is responsible for both the rules of the platform and keeping governments happy. https://twitter.com/...
  • @dseetharaman Deepa Seetharaman on x
    The “common ground” team at Facebook wasn't trying to change people's minds. They were trying to stop the vilification of the other side. And they came up with different product ideas to tone down the rhetoric on Facebook. https://twitter.com/...
  • @karissabe Karissa Bell on x
    Facebook's own internal research found the majority of people joining extremist groups did so as a result of Facebook's recommendation algorithms https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @willoremus Will Oremus on x
    Facebook's stated mission is “to bring the world closer together.” Its own research showed the social network was instead driving polarization, tribalism, and extremism. Rather than change course, Facebook's top executives opted to bury the research. https://www.wsj.com/...
  • @willoremus Will Oremus on x
    This story tells you an awful lot about the kind of company Facebook is, and what it cares about most. https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @dseetharaman Deepa Seetharaman on x
    But top executives shelved the effort. Policy exec Joel Kaplan considered the initiative “paternalistic,” per sources. The moves also affected right-leaning pages too much & risked growth. More here: https://www.wsj.com/...
  • @armchairdude Jonathan Wong on x
    Facebook's mission is to “bring the world closer together”. I've never seen a company fail so hard at its mission before. https://www.techmeme.com/...
  • @ladyhaja Hannah Jane Parkinson on x
    “A 2016 presentation states that 64% of all extremist group joins are due to our recommendation tools.” Brilliant reporting on how Facebook became divisive, combative & outright dangerous — and how Zuckberg ended up dismissing internal plans to fix that. https://www.wsj.com/...
  • @mikeelgan Mike Elgan on x
    This is amazing: Facebook admits that 64% of the people on Facebook who joined extremist groups did so because FACEBOOK RECOMMENDED THEY JOIN EXTREMIST GROUPS. https://twitter.com/...
  • @kbandersen Kurt Andersen on x
    I really am curious how Zuckerberg and Sandberg and the rest of them rationalize to themselves all the gratuitous damage they're doing to society. https://twitter.com/...
  • @mbrookerhk Matthew Brooker on x
    “In essence, Facebook is under fire for making the world more divided. Many of its own experts appeared to agree—and to believe Facebook could mitigate many of the problems. The company chose not to.” https://www.wsj.com/... via @WSJ
  • @rachelmorris Rachel Morris on x
    “Mr. Zuckerberg also signaled he was losing interest in the effort to recalibrate the platform in the name of social good, they said, asking that they not bring him something like that again.” https://twitter.com/...
  • @alxthomp Alex Thompson on x
    interesting thread from FB's former chief security officer https://twitter.com/...
  • @slpng_giants @slpng_giants on x
    Good primer on the dissonance between enforcement of Terms of Service versus fear of government regulation/retaliation here by former @facebook CSO. https://twitter.com/...
  • @mims @mims on x
    Cigarette companies: found out their product caused cancer, covered it up Oil and gas: knew about climate change, buried it Facebook: https://www.wsj.com/...
  • @chetfaliszek Chet Faliszek on x
    If you work at @facebook or @oculus, don't worry this isn't your concern. You should wait for Brad Pitt or Matt Damon to help - people stepping up and doing the right thing only happens in movies. As @boztank has repeatedly made it clear, don't expect FB to do the right thing. ht…
  • @jhweissmann Jordan Weissmann on x
    Facebook's engineers confirmed it was polarizing users, and algorithms were nudging users into extremist content. But hard-right groups were more likely to spread propaganda than hard-left ones. Guess what happened next. https://www.wsj.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @wiczipedia Nina Jankowicz on x
    This article has been gnawing at me all day. I have been making noise about the cesspools that are groups for years. It's so frustrating to read that fixes meant to keep people from a quick slide into the pits of conspiracyland was viewed by FB leadership as “paternalistic.” http…
  • @mattklinman Matt Klinman on x
    The clear problem with ppl at FB is they don't (or choose not to) grasp the platform itself changes how people are (on and off the platform). They insist “if people we better, FB would be better” but there simply is no “authentic behavior” on Facebook, only “Facebook behavior” ht…
  • @oneunderscore__ Ben Collins on x
    And the people who've been reporting on this for years are met with complete derision and sometimes outright lies by those at Facebook when we bring it up. https://twitter.com/...