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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is tying the fate of $2,000 stimulus checks to the repeal of Section 230

in a Bill That Would Also Eliminate Section 230 Dell Cameron / Gizmodo : McConnell Doesn't Care About Section 230 or the Election—Just Keeping Your Relief Check Small Ted Johnson / Deadline : Mitch McConnell Ties $2,000 Covid-19 Relief Checks To Repeal Of Section 230; Democrats Call It A “Poison Pill” Tweets: Donald J. Trump / @realdonaldtrump : Unless Republicans have a death wish, and it is also the right thing to do, they must approve the $2000 payments ASAP. $600 IS NOT ENOUGH! Also, get rid of Section 230 - Don't let Big Tech steal our Country, and don't let the Democrats steal the Presidential Election. Get tough! https://twitter.com/... Evan Greer / @evan_greer : Repealing Section 230 would lead to MORE censorship on the Internet, not less. If you don't like the way Twitter and Facebook do content moderation now, wait til they're making those decisions based on whether they think your post might catch them an expensive lawsuit Brian Schatz / @brianschatz : The Section 230 thing is not on the level. The fact that a repeal would harm conservatives, conservative websites, and Trump himself is a fine thing to point out. But I worry we are racing past the threshold question of whether this is a serious lawmaking effort. It is not. @waveturtlejake : Section 230 repeal is an absolutely terrible idea that would absolutely rank most of the internet, tying it to stimulus checks is just an attempt to attach something stupid so that Dems will vote it down and then McConnell can shift blame. Don't fall for it. Ben Collins / @oneunderscore__ : Once you open up social networks to liability for user speech, they will all look like the homepage for Disney.com. A Section 230 repeal is an insane thing for Trump to want. It'd leave an immediate regulatory black hole. Nobody who wants this gone understands it. Steven Dennis / @steventdennis : Trump says blocking the $2K checks would be a “death wish” for GOP. https://twitter.com/... Dan Gillmor / @dangillmor : We're about to lose Section 230, folks. Keep in mind that Biden also supports its repeal, and said so out loud. The Democrats are as indifferent to free speech — when controlling speech serves their purposes — as the Republicans. We are in big, big trouble. Ryan Grim / @ryangrim : Might as well call McConnell's bluff. They're not actually gonna let Facebook go under. Pocket the $2k and let them sort section 230 out later. Dan Gillmor / @dangillmor : You may dislike Big Tech. Fine. But if you think repealing Section 230 will somehow wreck Google and Facebook, you're just ignorant of reality. It will entrench them. It might well wreck Wikipedia, an invaluable resource operating on a relative shoestring. Emma Vigeland / @emmavigeland : Tying Section 230 to the $2,000 checks kills the bill & McConnell knows it. If Trump were serious about the checks, he'd insist upon a clean bill. Instead McConnell outmaneuvers him again, feeding into his egomaniacal crusade against tech companies as a way to wiggle out of this. https://twitter.com/... Emily Birnbaum / @birnbaum_e : “I'm hardly shy about criticizing Section 230, but making a lifeline for struggling families contingent on a half-baked, meat-axe evisceration of the law is cruel and stupid,” says @SenBlumenthal. https://www.protocol.com/... David Dayen / @ddayen : If like me you believe that the moment the U.S. does anything to Sec 230 Amazon or Facebook will get the government of Mexico to sue the U.S., you can talk yourself into voting for checks & taking the dumb voter fraud commission in the exchange https://prospect.org/... Max Kennerly / @maxkennerly : Part of a good thread on the absurdity of repealing Section 230. Truth is, Republicans don't want it, either, it'd result in Facebook instantly removing every MAGA group. It's not a serious request for legal reform, it's GOP disinformation to prey on their gullible supporters. https://twitter.com/... Mike Masnick / @mmasnick : If you use the internet (i.e., everyone), you should be screaming bloody murder to @senatemajldr right now. He's basically saying if you want your $2k checks, first we have to shoot the open internet dead. Fuck that. https://twitter.com/... Kevin Collier / @kevincollier : Are they just trusting Dems to balk at this? Seems far too fine a line for a vote that would singlehandedly ruin most major silicon valley companies as we know them. https://twitter.com/... Brian Tyler Cohen / @briantylercohen : Before you applaud Trump for co-signing onto $2,000 checks, remember that he thinks it should be tied to a repeal of Section 230, meaning your survival is *as* important as his ability to get revenge on Twitter. Evan Greer / @evan_greer : For the last fucking time Section 230 is not a “special legal protection afforded to technology companies” It applies to literally every website. Including the comments section of The Hill, for example. It also protects you from getting sued for retweeting or forwarding an email https://twitter.com/... Judd Legum / @juddlegum : I'd just like to note for the record that McConnell's claim that Trump linked Section 230 repeal with $2000 stimulus checks is FALSE. Trump said Section 230 repeal should be part of the NDAA bill and McConnell had no problem ignoring Trump @yashar : The section 230 thing continues to just make me laugh...repealing section 230 would be a disaster for Trump. It would mean his tweets would be taken down left and right. Same for many of his supporters. All of the talk about censorship? Wait til section 230 goes. https://twitter.com/... Martin Sfp Bryant / @martinsfp : This is dumb on so many levels. https://twitter.com/... Seth Abramson / @sethabramson : And there it is: Trump conjoining—for no reason—the $2,000 stimulus checks, Section 230, and his ongoing coup plot, thereby ensuring all three initiatives will fail. If Trump, Perdue, and Loeffler wanted a CLEAN, UP-OR-DOWN VOTE on the stimulus checks they could damn well say so. https://twitter.com/... Makena Kelly / @kellymakena : personally, i ~love~ that section 230 is now this ghostly apparition that haunts every piece of legislation, related or unrelated, and could even haunt the biden administration since we're still waiting on an FCC reinterpretation https://www.theverge.com/... Kara Swisher / @karaswisher : The fact of the matter is Trump does not even know what Section 230 is or what it says or does, much like his glancing familiarity with the truth, the First Amendment, the Constitution, the impact of transfats and when no means no. https://twitter.com/... See also Mediagazer

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Discussion

  • @realdonaldtrump Donald J. Trump on x
    Unless Republicans have a death wish, and it is also the right thing to do, they must approve the $2000 payments ASAP. $600 IS NOT ENOUGH! Also, get rid of Section 230 - Don't let Big Tech steal our Country, and don't let the Democrats steal the Presidential Election. Get tough! …
  • @brianschatz Brian Schatz on x
    The Section 230 thing is not on the level. The fact that a repeal would harm conservatives, conservative websites, and Trump himself is a fine thing to point out. But I worry we are racing past the threshold question of whether this is a serious lawmaking effort. It is not.
  • @evan_greer Evan Greer on x
    Repealing Section 230 would lead to MORE censorship on the Internet, not less. If you don't like the way Twitter and Facebook do content moderation now, wait til they're making those decisions based on whether they think your post might catch them an expensive lawsuit
  • @evan_greer Evan Greer on x
    For the last fucking time Section 230 is not a “special legal protection afforded to technology companies” It applies to literally every website. Including the comments section of The Hill, for example. It also protects you from getting sued for retweeting or forwarding an email …
  • @waveturtlejake @waveturtlejake on x
    Section 230 repeal is an absolutely terrible idea that would absolutely rank most of the internet, tying it to stimulus checks is just an attempt to attach something stupid so that Dems will vote it down and then McConnell can shift blame. Don't fall for it.
  • @juddlegum Judd Legum on x
    I'd just like to note for the record that McConnell's claim that Trump linked Section 230 repeal with $2000 stimulus checks is FALSE. Trump said Section 230 repeal should be part of the NDAA bill and McConnell had no problem ignoring Trump
  • @oneunderscore__ Ben Collins on x
    Once you open up social networks to liability for user speech, they will all look like the homepage for Disney.com. A Section 230 repeal is an insane thing for Trump to want. It'd leave an immediate regulatory black hole. Nobody who wants this gone understands it.
  • @steventdennis Steven Dennis on x
    Trump says blocking the $2K checks would be a “death wish” for GOP. https://twitter.com/...
  • @briantylercohen Brian Tyler Cohen on x
    Before you applaud Trump for co-signing onto $2,000 checks, remember that he thinks it should be tied to a repeal of Section 230, meaning your survival is *as* important as his ability to get revenge on Twitter.
  • @martinsfp Martin Sfp Bryant on x
    This is dumb on so many levels. https://twitter.com/...
  • @dangillmor Dan Gillmor on x
    We're about to lose Section 230, folks. Keep in mind that Biden also supports its repeal, and said so out loud. The Democrats are as indifferent to free speech — when controlling speech serves their purposes — as the Republicans. We are in big, big trouble.
  • @evan_greer Evan Greer on x
    If Section 230 were repealed entirely, it would throw the Internet into chaos. It would also ironically solidify the monopoly power of the companies everyone is mad at: Facebook and Google. They have the armies of lawyers to figure out how to navigate a world without 230
  • @ryangrim Ryan Grim on x
    Might as well call McConnell's bluff. They're not actually gonna let Facebook go under. Pocket the $2k and let them sort section 230 out later.
  • @mmasnick Mike Masnick on x
    If you use the internet (i.e., everyone), you should be screaming bloody murder to @senatemajldr right now. He's basically saying if you want your $2k checks, first we have to shoot the open internet dead. Fuck that. https://twitter.com/...
  • @themarketswork Jeff Carlson on x
    McConnell tying 3 items together: 1) $2K 2) Section 230 3) Election Fraud Silence on Trump's redlining. Lots at stake (Senate seats). Lots of gamesmanship. Lots of pressure. But don't forget. Congress WANTED to pass a pork-laden bill while they reluctantly “gave” u $600.
  • @sethabramson Seth Abramson on x
    And there it is: Trump conjoining—for no reason—the $2,000 stimulus checks, Section 230, and his ongoing coup plot, thereby ensuring all three initiatives will fail. If Trump, Perdue, and Loeffler wanted a CLEAN, UP-OR-DOWN VOTE on the stimulus checks they could damn well say so.…
  • @kellymakena Makena Kelly on x
    personally, i ~love~ that section 230 is now this ghostly apparition that haunts every piece of legislation, related or unrelated, and could even haunt the biden administration since we're still waiting on an FCC reinterpretation https://www.theverge.com/...
  • @yashar @yashar on x
    The section 230 thing continues to just make me laugh...repealing section 230 would be a disaster for Trump. It would mean his tweets would be taken down left and right. Same for many of his supporters. All of the talk about censorship? Wait til section 230 goes. https://twitter.…
  • @dangillmor Dan Gillmor on x
    You may dislike Big Tech. Fine. But if you think repealing Section 230 will somehow wreck Google and Facebook, you're just ignorant of reality. It will entrench them. It might well wreck Wikipedia, an invaluable resource operating on a relative shoestring.
  • @kevincollier Kevin Collier on x
    Are they just trusting Dems to balk at this? Seems far too fine a line for a vote that would singlehandedly ruin most major silicon valley companies as we know them. https://twitter.com/...
  • @emmavigeland Emma Vigeland on x
    Tying Section 230 to the $2,000 checks kills the bill & McConnell knows it. If Trump were serious about the checks, he'd insist upon a clean bill. Instead McConnell outmaneuvers him again, feeding into his egomaniacal crusade against tech companies as a way to wiggle out of this.…
  • @birnbaum_e Emily Birnbaum on x
    “I'm hardly shy about criticizing Section 230, but making a lifeline for struggling families contingent on a half-baked, meat-axe evisceration of the law is cruel and stupid,” says @SenBlumenthal. https://www.protocol.com/...
  • @karaswisher Kara Swisher on x
    The fact of the matter is Trump does not even know what Section 230 is or what it says or does, much like his glancing familiarity with the truth, the First Amendment, the Constitution, the impact of transfats and when no means no. https://twitter.com/...