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• @paytm @paytm on x

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• @mosseri @mosseri on x

  Careful with this headline, the ban is only of *new downloads* of TikTok, an outright ban will happen on 11/12 unless a deal is made. I've said this before, but a US TikTok ban would be quite bad for Instagram, Facebook, and the internet more broadly. https://www.wsj.com/...

• @andrewrsorkin Andrew Ross Sorkin on x

  The TikTok ban news may not be what it seems: The real deadline for an absolute ban was subtly shifted from this Sunday to Nov 12 — after the election! — perhaps giving both sides more time to negotiate? The soap opera continues...

• @etnowlive @etnowlive on x

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• @paytm @paytm on x

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• @bklynactivemama Nellie on x

  Not a fan of the app but this ain't it. This is terrifying on a whole mother level. https://twitter.com/...

• @natsocold NatStar on x

  Boy if my kids could vote https://twitter.com/...

• @andreakuszewski Andrea Kuszewski on x

  I think this is Trump's way of punishing China for Covid because he's an asshole https://twitter.com/...

• @ezralevant Ezra Levant on x

  Fair's fair. China bans Facebook and Twitter. https://twitter.com/...

• @pkafka Peter Kafka on x

  WeChat: Enormously popular with Chinese-Americans. Owned by Chinese company. Will be crippled in US Sunday night. TikTok: Enormously popular with Americans including some Trump voters. Owned by Chinese company, trying to do deal w/Trump supporters. Will be OK through election.

• @tonyromm Tony Romm on x

  paradoxically, a move allegedly meant to protect privacy and security threatens at least briefly to have the opposite effect. if tiktok discovered some zero day, it would have no ability to patch and deliver an update. https://twitter.com/...

• @alexeheath Alex Heath on x

  Head of Instagram https://twitter.com/...

• @bgrueskin Bill Grueskin on x

  This should solidify Trump's command of the youth vote https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...

• @ibishblog Hussein Ibish on x

  The Trump administration said it is banning China's TikTok and WeChat from mobile app stores beginning this Sunday, Sept. 20, in a move that will sharply raise tensions with Beijing. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...

• @advil Abdul on x

  land of the free baby https://twitter.com/...

• @beirutspring Mustapha Hamoui on x

  Huge that WeChat is included... To listen to all the endless talk and analysis about TikTok you'd think they are the big villain... WeChat is like a thousand times more significant and important... https://twitter.com/...

• @alexeheath Alex Heath on x

  TikTok and WeChat to be booted off U.S. App Stores on Sept 20 in an unprecedented move, though sounds like TikTok could still find a way to get a deal done with Oracle to save itself by Nov 12 https://www.commerce.gov/...

• @danprimack Dan Primack on x

  On more TikTok thought... This entire thing is absurd. A company with hundreds of U.S. employees and hundreds of millions of U.S. users — some of whom generate income from it — is waiting for just one person, the President, to decide if it can continue.

• @bobbychesney Bobby Chesney on x

  With sanctions against @tiktok_us & @WeChatApp set to take effect by Monday, the Commerce Department has just issued its explanation of exactly which transactions with the companies will be banned (as required by the original order) 1/4 https://www.commerce.gov/... via @CommerceG…

• @jolingkent Jo Ling Kent on x

  Developing news: Commerce Dept will ban WeChat and TikTok app downloads by “eliminating access” in the US starting Sunday. Meanwhile.. TikTok is now #2 in the App Store. Here is the Commerce announcement: https://www.commerce.gov/...

• @jchengwsj Jonathan Cheng on x

  Starting Sunday, the U.S. will prohibit any “service to distribute or maintain the WeChat or TikTok mobile applications...in the U.S.” and “any provision of services through the WeChat...for...transferring funds or processing payments within the U.S.” https://www.commerce.gov/...

• @indopac_info @indopac_info on x

  Trump to block #US downloads of #TikTok, #WeChat on Sunday People with TikTok on their phones will still be able to use the app, but the experience will degrade without software updates https://www.cnbc.com/...

• @cnbcnow @cnbcnow on x

  Trump to block U.S. downloads of TikTok, WeChat on Sunday. It's unclear if the Commerce Department's announcement means there's no possibility of a deal going through before the Sunday deadline. https://www.cnbc.com/...

• @meridithmcgraw Meridith McGraw on x

  Just in: Commerce Dept is prohibiting the US from distributing (downloading) or maintaining WeChat and TikTok apps WeChat ban goes in place Sept 20 and Tiktok on Nov 12, unless national security concerns about its sale are resolved https://www.commerce.gov/...

• @commercegov U.S. Commerce Dept on x

  #News: Commerce Department Prohibits #WeChat and #TikTok Transactions to Protect the National Security of the United States. https://www.commerce.gov/...

• @secretaryross Sec. Wilbur Ross on x

  Today's actions prove once again that President @realDonaldTrump will do everything in his power to guarantee our national security and protect Americans from the threats of the Chinese Communist Party. https://www.commerce.gov/...

• @selinawangtv Selina Wang on x

  Breaking: As of Sept. the following transactions are prohibited: Any provision of service to distribute or maintain the WeChat or TikTok mobile applications, constituent code, or application updates through an online mobile application store in the U.S. https://www.commerce.gov/.…

• @sallyshin Sally Shin on x

  Press Release from Commerce: we have taken significant action to combat China's malicious collection of American citizens' personal data, while promoting our national values, democratic rules-based norms & aggressive enforcement of US laws/regulations https://www.commerce.gov/...…

• @billweircnn Bill Weir on x

  “People with TikTok on their phones will also be able to continue to use the app, but the person said that the experience would degrade over the next two months unless a deal was approved by Mr Trump.” https://www.ft.com/...

• @rmac18 @rmac18 on x

  Isn't this just going to encourage a flood of people to download it while they can? https://twitter.com/...

• @stokel Chris Stokel-Walker on x

  My read of the TikTok deal with Oracle as reported by @inafried seems to be that this is more a win for TikTok than it is the US government, in that it's what the company has been largely saying it'd do throughout the CFIUS process https://www.axios.com/...

• @yoda Drew Olanoff on x

  Lord help me if Peter Thiel is on that board. https://twitter.com/...

• @pingroma Zheping Huang on x

  Per our DC reporters, the latest TikTok US proposal includes the formation of a national security committee, which would be chaired by a CIFUS point person. Might be a false equivalence but gotta say it reminds me of the Party committee in China Big Tech https://www.bloomberg.com…

• @kantrowitz Alex Kantrowitz on x

  Kevin Systrom in the running to be TikTok's next CEO. It's lit. https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @eringriffith Erin Griffith on x

  Our latest on the TikTok saga: Instagram founder Kevin Systrom has had talks about becoming TikTok's new CEO. + other details on deal revisions, timeline, DC reactions, IPO plans. with @anaswanson @dmmcabe and special vacay cameo from @mikeisaac https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @mattnavarra Matt Navarra on x

  The Social Network movie has an epic plot twist for its sequel. https://www.businessinsider.com/ ...

• @caseynewton Casey Newton on x

  Systrom taking over TikTok to run it in direct competition with Instagram would be what we in the business call “a good story” https://twitter.com/...

• @artjonak Art Jonak on x

  Instagram founder Kevin Systrom taking over TikTok as CEO to compete directly with Instagram — a potentially epic “chip on the shoulder” chapter for his future book... https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @aexm Ana Milicevic on x

  Ah, yes. They are required to hire a(nother) man named Kevin as their “full time” CEO (and not, say, a woman named Vanessa because lol why are women). https://twitter.com/...

• @joannastern Joanna Stern on x

  Well, this would make things interesting! https://twitter.com/...

• @john John Shahidi on x

  This keeps getting interesting. Would be an incredible move. Love @kevin. https://www.businessinsider.com/ ...

• @chrisharihar Chris Harihar on x

  Vanessa Pappas rightfully made a big PR push over the last week as interim TikTok head, getting profiles in NYT & WSJ. Have to think that was part of a strategy to sell herself as a permanent CEO option. At very least, she's well-positioned to be CEO elsewhere if she ever leaves.…

• @karaswisher Kara Swisher on x

  I support this hire of @kevin https://twitter.com/...

• @joshconstine Josh Constine -SignalFire on x

  Instagram's Kevin Systrom becoming TikTok's CEO and crushing Reels would be the ultimate revenge for Zuckerberg stripping his autonomy. So spicy! https://twitter.com/...

• @apollozac Zac Hall on x

  bad news for ipad app https://twitter.com/...

• @nakashimae Ellen Nakashima on x

  Treasury Secty Steve Mnuchin is pushing hard for TikTok deal despite opposition. He called senior DOD officials Wednesday, including Ellen Lord, and indicated the deal would get done, despite concerns, sources said. https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...

• @karlbode Karl Bode on x

  can you even imagine the billable legal hours that will have gone into this intellectually incontinent dipshit parade? https://twitter.com/...

• @jenniferjjacobs Jennifer Jacobs on x

  Scoop: Mnuchin sent Bytedance a counter offer last night with revised terms for the Tiktok deal and the company accepted it, sources tell me and @SalehaMohsin. Oracle accepted the terms, too. The changes address national security concerns about the @tiktok_us transaction.

• @sentedcruz Senator Ted Cruz on x

  As I expressed in my letter to Sec. Mnuchin, any deal between Oracle and ByteDance that fails to address national security concerns should be rejected. The Chinese Communist Party uses platforms like #TikTok for propaganda or espionage. https://fortune.com/...

• @theincrdblhulse Courtney Hulse on x

  I know everyone's excited about TikTok, but WeChat (owned by Tencent) is also under scrutiny with a decision coming up this weekend. Word is, the White House is discussing it today, and a decision (or at least some kind of development...) is due on Sunday. https://twitter.com/...

• @sdonnan Shawn Donnan on x

  Is the Trump administration now gunning for #Fortnite after #Tiktok? Great story from @jendeben et al on how Washington is now asking gaming companies about their investments from China's' Tencent. https://www.bloomberg.com/...

• @sbanjo Shelly Banjo on x

  This is going to be a big deal! If you think TikTok was bad, if the Trump admin starts unwinding investments by Tencent, the world's largest gaming company, this could have a major impact on the industry and tech markets https://twitter.com/...

• @zhugeex Daniel Ahmad on x

  “The latest move is part of heightened scrutiny on Chinese companies and their ties to U.S. firms by the Trump administration. In August, President Donald Trump ordered a ban on Tencent's WeChat app.” CFIUS has the authority to block / unwind deals. https://www.bloomberg.com/...

• @koush @koush on x

  Smells like the US will force more fire sales of Chinese companies under the guise of national security. TikTok was just a start. https://twitter.com/...

• @slasher Rod Breslau on x

  the Trump administration has asked gaming companies related to Tencent, including sending letters to Epic Games and Riot Games, to provide information about their data-security protocols, according to a new report https://www.bloomberg.com/...

• @thegrugq Thaddeus E. Grugq on x

  Been talking about this for a while now with @daveaitel @HostileSpectrum and others. Tencent is the big one. They loaded with cash, have hundreds of offensive security researchers, and they control extremely popular games: fortnite, 350m players league of legends, 115m players ht…

• @tommackenzietv Tom Mackenzie on x

  Key points on this Tencent data scrutiny story: - It's US assets worth at least $22B, 6-7% of profits - includes Riot Games, Epic & Activision - CFIUS has power to order undoing of these investments https://www.bloomberg.com/... @QuickTake #Tencent #China #gaming https://twitter.…

• @dylanbyers Dylan Byers on x

  The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) has sent letters to Epic Games, Riot Games and other TENCENT-backed video game companies re: data security...... https://www.bloomberg.com/...

• @colinwilhelm Colin Wilhelm on x

  Fortnite *does* ask for a lot of user info on sign up...I'm, uh, told by sources. https://twitter.com/...

• @daveaitel @daveaitel on x

  This is a smart move... https://cybersecpolitics.blogspot.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...

• @jboorstin Julia Boorstin on x

  Sources tell me that TikTok Global plans to file for an IPO on one of the U.S. stock exchanges in about a year. @cnbc @CNBCtech

• @sherman4949 Alex Sherman on x

  So this entire deal has changed from what was nearly accepted a few weeks ago. ByteDance is now set to IPO global TikTok, Oracle will own less than 20%, WMT will get stake — if Trump approves. No more carved out U.S. co. https://www.cnbc.com/...

• @cnbcnow @cnbcnow on x

  UPDATE: Treasury Dept. sent major term sheet revisions to Oracle & TikTok last night to specifically address security concerns, sources tell @SaraEisen. The two companies agreed to Treasury's revisions in full, sources also said. https://www.cnbc.com/...

• @kaylatausche Kayla Tausche on x

  BREAKING: Pres. Trump says he's getting briefed on TikTok deal tomorrow morning — but that, to his dismay, there won't be a payment to US Treasury. “Amazingly, I find that we're not allowed to do that.”

• @cpen Carolyn Penner on x

  oh wow https://twitter.com/...

• @cultrun John Mller on x

  Trump administration officials are looking to give American investors a majority share of the company that will take over the Chinese-owned video sharing app TikTok https://www.wsj.com/... a través de @WSJ

• @seyitaylor @seyitaylor on x

  obviously this needs to happen for the circle to be complete. https://twitter.com/...

• @acquiredfm @acquiredfm on x

  “Reason for taking the job, sir?” ⏹ It advances my career ⏹ It pays well ⏹ I've always wanted to manage a multinational geopolitical circus ✅ Pure spite https://twitter.com/...

• @delrey Jason Del Rey on x

  If Walmart ends up owning a stake of TikTok, it's worth noting that Systrom, the former Instagram CEO, once was on Walmart's board of directors https://twitter.com/...

• @sbanjo Shelly Banjo on x

  He was also one of the Facebook execs at Facebook that flew to shanghai for failed deal talks with Musically, which Bytedance ended up buying and turning into tiktok. https://twitter.com/...

• @johnlukesam1 @johnlukesam1 on x

  Why is Trump interfering in the free market and holding up this Oracle/TikToc deal? Why do we have to wait for King Trump to rule? Maybe he's quid-pro-quo-ing again—I'll approve the deal if you give me or my campaign tens of millions in cash. https://www.cnbc.com/...

• @puiwingtam Pui-Wing Tam on x

  Among those whom TikTok has talked to about being the new CEO of the app is Kevin Systrom, a founder and former chief executive of Instagram And all the latest via @dmccabe @eringriffith @AnaSwanson @MikeIsaac https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @sherman4949 Alex Sherman on x

  Latest on TikTok *Oracle to own a 20% stake *WMT CEO Doug McMillon would sit on new board *While Trump said he didn't like the concept of ByteDance retaining majority stake, ownership stakes haven't been a recent issue of negotiation *Decision in 24-36 hrs https://www.cnbc.com/..…

• @jenniferjjacobs Jennifer Jacobs on x

  NEWS: Tiktok deal inching forward. Bytedance accepted admin's counter offer without requesting any revisions. Oracle's making a bid for Chinese-owned social media app. Bytedance trying to win Trump approval for transaction. Story by me and @SalehaMohsin https://www.bloomberg.com/…

• Vox Peter Kafka on x

  Trump moves to shut down WeChat in the US. But TikTok will live until after the election.

• @v_ness Vanessa Pappas on x

  @mosseri We agree that this type of ban would be bad for the industry. We invite Facebook and Instagram to publicly join our challenge and support our litigation. This is a moment to put aside our competition and focus on core principles like freedom of expression and due process…

• @zittrain Jonathan Zittrain on x

  All of this was presaged by the move to App Store models just over ten years ago. Before, the way PCs were architected no one could tell Bill Gates to kill a Windows app. https://www.ft.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @alexstamos Alex Stamos on x

  The executive branch deciding what is allowed to be on the phones of Americans, with no judicial process or detailed guidelines that companies could follow to be in compliance, is a huge strike against the freedoms of US citizens and the open internet. https://www.commerce.gov/..…

• @levie Aaron Levie on x

  The US banning TikTok app install updates just handed the world's greatest argument to engineers pushing to have web components in their mobile apps vs. going native only. The debate rages on.

• @kurtopsahl Kurt Opsahl on x

  Banning an app from US app stores not only infringes First Amendmemt rights, but also-ironically-will reduce security in the apps by blocking any security updates. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @pkafka Peter Kafka on x

  To be clear: I don't know how/if a Comcast/Verizon/etc would be able to turn off WeChat on their networks. But that's the intent of this.

• @levie Aaron Levie on x

  So the US is going to block new downloads of TikTok on Sunday. But any user who already has the app by Sunday can use it, ensuring a surge of more users by then. If national security was your concern, instead of China trade wars, this would not be your strategy.

• @robpegoraro Rob Pegoraro on x

  This Commerce ban on TikTok and WeChat transactions—down to using CDNs to optimize their delivery, but apparently not plain old TCP/IP routing or just using the apps—reads like an appetizer course for Great Firewall-style blocking. https://www.commerce.gov/...

• @bengeskin Ben Geskin on x

  Oh, I just realized, it's just the US App Store 😄 I don't much care then https://twitter.com/...

• @dlberes @dlberes on x

  Excuse my naïveté but why would Apple and Google just roll over and take this? How is there not immediately a legal challenge?

• @normative Julian Sanchez on x

  This confirms that the regulations banning WeChat & TikTok are pursuant to the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, which explicitly excludes the prohibition “directly or indirectly” of personal communications & transmission of information. https://s3.amazonaws.com/...

• @realderekutley Derek Utley on x

  We all agree that China should NOT HAVE our data. Further, big tech doesn't allow free expression. They censor you. They ban you. They fact check you. They delete you. What an amazingly f'uped world we live in under communist social media rule. https://twitter.com/...

• @alexstamos Alex Stamos on x

  Would have been pretty cool timing for iOS 14 to include support for progressive web apps as near-native equivalents (or to allow @googlechrome to ship a more full-featured engine).

• @antoniogm @antoniogm on x

  You know, y'all can stop writing about TikTok for all of a few days, right?

• @stevekovach Steve Kovach on x

  Some more clarity from the Commerce Dept.: TikTok and WeChat will disappear from app stores midnight Sunday. WeChat will still run if you already have it before then, but since it uses U.S. companies for CDNs, it won't work properly https://www.cnbc.com/...

• @jbursz Jessica Bursztynsky on x

  As @stevekovach says, this could be an aggressive move from the Trump Administration to push for its original intention for TikTok to be fully owned by a U.S. company. https://www.cnbc.com/...

• @jchengwsj Jonathan Cheng on x

  If Trump won't let Americans use WeChat, Tencent would like to suggest its newly-launched app WeCom, which lets users link their WeChat account to it and add their WeChat contacts, then message and even receive virtual money from WeChat friends. @teamlipei https://www.reuters.com…

• @senrickscott Rick Scott on x

  This is the right decision by @realDonaldTrump and the Department of Commerce. These apps pose serious security risks for users and these companies are under the control of the Chinese Communist Party. https://twitter.com/...

• @benyt Ben Smith on x

  WeChat in many ways a more interesting and harder story. Clearly a surveillance and propaganda tool; also clearly so vital for human beings staying connected to their loved ones. https://twitter.com/...

• @carlquintanilla Carl Quintanilla on x

  “So I called up Trump. I said, “Listen, .. if you shut down [TikTok], you're going to get kicked in the ass by a bunch of young people.” - Lindsey Graham https://www.vanityfair.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @stshank Stephen Shankland on x

  You can go through the hassle of sideloading APK files to run non-app store software on your Android phone. Or with Chrome, Firefox and other browsers on Android, the web app (TikTok in this case) will prompt you to install it as an icon on your home screen. https://twitter.com/.…

• @eric_seufert Eric Seufert on x

  Two non-exclusive ideas: 1. Apps from Chinese devs should be subjected to a more stringent standard for data collection before being hosted on App Store / GP; 2. That authority should not be abused to gift business relationships to Trump supporters (eg Oracle / TikTok)

• @dylanbyers Dylan Byers on x

  Lots of confusing language in the WeChat & TikTok ban order, not making things easy for Apple & Google....

• @nxthompson @nxthompson on x

  I hope Apple springs into action before the Sunday ban and loads TikTok as a default app onto all the new iPhones it's manufacturing.

• @elkmovie Michael Love on x

  They could, but it'd be easy to work around with a VPN, and I don't believe US networks have the ability to limit / snoop on those as in China. (and can't very well block them altogether because it'd below up remote work) The only real choke point available is the App Store. http…

• @taylorlorenz Taylor Lorenz on x

  Former security head at FB https://twitter.com/...

• @gruber John Gruber on x

  Everyone's getting TikTok while the getting's good: https://twitter.com/...

• @alexstamos Alex Stamos on x

  BTW, one of the immediate impacts will be Chinese Americans trading their iPhones for Androids and side-loading a WeChat client that calls into non-US infrastructure. Losing contact with family during a global crisis is a big motivator. This isn't a security upgrade.

• @aclu @aclu on x

  This order issued today violates the First Amendment rights of people in the United States by restricting their ability to communicate and conduct important transactions on TikTok and WeChat.

• @slpng_giants @slpng_giants on x

  Look, @tiktok_us has lots of problems. Harassment, disinformation and hate among them. But let's face it, @facebook benefits greatly from TikTok being forced offline and they're a zillion times worse. This, from TikTok's CEO will force them to prove this wasn't their plan. https:…

• @kurtwagner8 Kurt Wagner on x

  Facebook: A TikTok ban would be bad for us, too! TikTok: Can we get that in writing?? https://twitter.com/...

• @alexstamos Alex Stamos on x

  It's up to Apple, Google, Amazon (provider of web services to TikTok), and large ISPs to file for a TRO to stop this process before some really dangerous precedent is created. There is a real risk from PRC apps, but in a democracy *process matters*! https://twitter.com/...

• @jeffjarvis Jeff Jarvis on x

  Bad case of burying the lede here: How does this affect the public? It robs them of their press. This is a First Amendment story (finally mentioned in an @ACLU paragraph way down) Trump administration bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores beginning on Sunday https://www.washingtonp…

• @anildash Anil Dash on x

  A minor point in all the larger foolishness around this, but the web still has a mighty architectural advantage over native mobile apps that means more than ever politically. https://twitter.com/...

• @repmarkgreen Rep. Mark Green on x

  I commend President @realDonaldTrump for keeping his promise to secure our country from the threat of the Chinese Communist Party. https://twitter.com/...

• @scottmonty Scott Monty on x

  If you haven't downloaded TikTok yet, you'd better get on it... https://twitter.com/...

• @davidakaye David Kaye on x

  the trump admin wants us to see this (& them) as pro-security and privacy. but it's not. it's a disproportionate attack on expression. https://www.wsj.com/...

• @pkafka Peter Kafka on x

  Not surprising, because it's Trump, but there's confusion about the coming WeChat ban. But per press release and Wilbur Ross, the idea is to shut WeChat completely in the U.S. — not just transactions. They're literally trying to remove it from the U.S. internet. https://twitter.c…

• @hshaban Hamza Shaban on x

  TikTok's existence and popularity has provided Facebook a rhetorical crutch, a permanent defense to say to Washington: “We are not a monopoly, just look at TikTok! Also, China is bad, so you should not regulate us, and we will stand up to Chinese tech” https://twitter.com/...

• @tysonhutchins_ Tyson Hutchins on x

  Idk maybe it's just me, but it seems like we have bigger problems on our hands at the moment https://twitter.com/...

• @russellbrandom Russell Brandom on x

  This morning's TikTok order isn't coming because Trump has made a decision. He's had all week to review the Oracle deal and he hasn't come down one way or another. This is just the clock running out. https://www.theverge.com/...

• @kellymakena Makena Kelly on x

  Maybe, uh, download TikTok before Sunday. https://www.theverge.com/...

• @tysonhutchins_ Tyson Hutchins on x

  Take note... The Head of Instagram feels the need to stick up for one of his biggest competitors. Regardless of your feelings about TikTok—proposed bans like this are not good for the internet. https://twitter.com/...

• @larrymadowo Larry Madowo on x

  American apps Facebook, Twitter & Google collect the same data as TikTok. The Head of Instagram appears to be supporting the Chinese app https://twitter.com/...

• @gerberkawasaki Ross Gerber on x

  The Trump way... The best thing is we can end trump in 7 weeks. We must dump this idiot and save America. #BidenHarris2020 https://twitter.com/...

• @mattnavarra Matt Navarra on x

  TikTok wants Facebook and Instagram's help to fight Trump's ban 😮 https://twitter.com/...

• @reckless Nilay Patel on x

  Just a reminder that the Trump administration still has not said what specific bad things prompted all this chaos. Everyone agrees bad things are *possible*! But the gov stepping in usually requires more than that. https://www.theverge.com/...

• @wongmjane Jane Manchun Wong on x

  The Head of Instagram said he thinks the TikTok US ban is a bad idea 😯 https://twitter.com/...

• @emilygorcenski Trans Women Are Women on x

  Bad move for the president to take on the technology crowd, who loves free speech. Why, you should have seen the uproar about games journalism. No chance he survives this! https://twitter.com/...

• @okboost Ian on x

  Banning downloads? So we can still use the app if we already had it downloaded? https://twitter.com/...

• @parkermolloy Parker Molloy on x

  Still absolutely wild that the president can be like “This company is bad. Shut it down. Ban it,” and it more or less happens. They never really outlined *how* the app was a security threat. Just a half-ass justification. https://twitter.com/...

• @kaitlancollins Kaitlan Collins on x

  Trump was briefed on proposals to buy TikTok yesterday. https://www.cnn.com/...

• @dandrezner Daniel W. Drezner on x

  The 18-24 demographic traditionally does not vote. I wonder if denying them this outlet during a pandemic moves the needle at all. https://twitter.com/...

• @mr_jsheffield @mr_jsheffield on x

  I'm old enough to remember @GOP & Republicans aversion to Governments meddling in the free market. 🤷🏼‍♂ ️ https://twitter.com/...

• @jason_kint Jason Kint on x

  Head of Facebook Lite tries to suggest this would be bad for FB's proprietary platforms. Yes, it would be bad for internet overall but it's only bad for FB if an unfriendly government had more power than Mark Zuckerberg and FB didn't play ball with them...this helps Facebook. htt…

• @martinsfp Martin Sfp Bryant on x

  Worth noting that Apple and Google have killswitches for apps on people's phones, so they *could* do a full ban of TikTok (rather than just removing it for download) if the White House wanted.

• @jeffjarvis Jeff Jarvis on x

  Goddamnit this is a First Amendment issue. Let us treat it as such: Trump is attempting to shut off the people's presses. Trump administration bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores beginning on Sunday https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...

• @larrymadowo Larry Madowo on x

  The US is banning the Chinese apps TikTok and WeChat from Sunday for national security reasons. It claims they collect “vast swaths of data from users, including network activity, location data, and browsing and search histories” https://www.commerce.gov/...

• @rankingrights @rankingrights on x

  The Trump Administration's “build-the-wall” approach to the internet now includes banning @TikTok and @WeChat from app stores. This puts the US on par with China, India, Turkey and other countries that censor communication tools. https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @oneunderscore__ Ben Collins on x

  The fastest way to make TikTok a national security threat is to make it so average users can't update it through the app store, which is what this ban does. Any vulnerabilities from here on out now cannot be patched by average Americans. The White House is creating this problem.

• @kateconger Kate Conger on x

  This tiktok ban will effectively cut off US users from receiving security updates: https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @hypervisible Doomscrolling Eternal on x

  “By banning TikTok from the app store, it will be impossible for users to update their app, meaning any existing vulnerabilities discovered by ByteDance between now and November will continue to persist for Americans and Americans only.” https://www.vice.com/...

• @evan_greer Evan Greer on x

  This pretty much sums up every tech policy move this admin has made https://twitter.com/...

• @nicoleperlroth Nicole Perlroth on x

  Unintended consequences of the TikTok ban: Security updates. Good job, everyone. https://twitter.com/...

• @jessicajin_ Jessica Jin on x

  Genius way to turn out the Chinese-American vote, @realDonaldTrump. I'd lose access to my entire extended family and my dad if WeChat were to go. I'll be calling on everyone in my mom's local friend group chat to register to vote today. https://twitter.com/...

• @niubi Bill Bishop on x

  “the government will also ban American companies from processing transactions for WeChat or hosting its internet traffic as of midnight Sunday.” So will need a vpn with non us servers? https://twitter.com/...

• @motherboard @motherboard on x

  Now THAT'S What I Call Logic! https://www.vice.com/...

• @mrjeremylevy Jeremy Levy on x

  Hey kids, feel like voting now? https://twitter.com/...

• @willknight Will Knight on x

  This isn't a sensible approach to national security or international competition, just as the wall isn't a sensible approach to immigration. It's about turning other countries into monsters, and blaming them for America's problems. https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @freedomofpress @freedomofpress on x

  The Trump administration has announced a “ban” on TikTok in U.S. app stores—a move which is shortsighted, ridiculous, and likely unconstitutional. https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @sixiaotang SIX on x

  Tiktok will be fine; the no-compromise loss of WeChat access in the US is devastating for asian diaspora. And cruelty is the point here https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @sinanaral Sinan Aral on x

  Wow. The future of the Internet will be Balkanized (and the implications for competition and national security are real): Trump Admin to Ban TikTok, WeChat From U.S. App Stores. https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @nickconfessore Nick Confessore on x

  Probably the biggest gift Trump has given Zuckerberg yet: Using government power to ban a popular rival service right as Facebook launches its copycat: https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @selenalarson Selena on x

  ah yes i see the u.s. is taking a measured, understandable approach to this whole thing https://twitter.com/...

• @dylanbyers Dylan Byers on x

  (Very!) respectfully, this is probably the wrong take. The TikTok ban, which isn't til Nov. 12, could still be averted, and Zuckerberg, Adam Mosseri and others have noted that the longterm implications for Facebook would probably be bad, insofar as other countries might ban them.…

• @brianspegele Brian Spegele on x

  Here's hoping ordinary Americans and Chinese find other ways to communicate. https://twitter.com/...

• @comparativist @comparativist on x

  I'm not a fan of either app, but am deeply uncomfortable with a POTUS being able to ban apps with an Executive Order. https://twitter.com/...

• @sqiouyilu @sqiouyilu on x

  great! thanks for destroying one avenue of communication for my livelihood as well as contact with my friends and family, including ones based in the US! love to be chinese during this administration!!! https://twitter.com/...

• @ewong Edward Wong on x

  Big news for anyone involved w/ China: Trump moves ahead w/ ban on WeChat and TikTok, the popular Chinese apps. US officials say WeChat will be inoperational in US by Monday. This will force Americans & Chinese to look for other communications channels. https://www.nytimes.com/..…

• @torekelandpllc Tor Ekeland on x

  Executive branch bans internet publishing platform. No First Amendment issues here, move along. https://www.nytimes.com/...

• @eanmeyer @eanmeyer on x

  This ends badly. This ends with jail broken phones, malware ridden downloads, shady VPNs and proxies. This is no more a national security risk than Facebook, but the bot narrative on Facebook is pro-Trump which is the real difference. https://twitter.com/...

• @vice @vice on x

  This is truly one of the dumbest possible outcomes of an exhausting, unnecessary saga. https://www.vice.com/...

• @ryanaraine Ryan Naraine on x

  Cue the obvious workarounds (changing country in AppStore) or sideloading in Android https://twitter.com/...

• @lorenzofb Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai on x

  I didn't think the TikTok saga could get dumber, but it did. https://www.vice.com/...

• @freedomofpress @freedomofpress on x

  In terms of security: the Trump administration's move today will make U.S. TikTok users less safe by cutting them off from software updates https://www.vice.com/...

• @mikaelthalen Mikael Thalen on x

  The irony of Trump's TikTok ban, which is supposedly aimed at bolstering national security, is that it will block U.S. users from receiving security updates, thus making them more vulnerable than they ever were to begin with https://www.vice.com/...

• @josephfcox Joseph Cox on x

  New: Trump Protects TikTok Users' Security By Cutting Them Off From Security Updates Total dumbass stuff over TikTok. https://www.vice.com/...

• @yo_bj Becky Yoose on x

  For those thinking of doing a last minute install of TikTok or WeChat, you might want to take into account the security risks that are only going to increase the longer the apps are banned from the app stores. https://twitter.com/...

• @reckless Nilay Patel on x

  Perfect headline https://www.vice.com/...

• @rmack Rebecca MacKinnon on x

  Regarding Trump's ban of #Wechat and #Tiktok: Welcome to the Great Firewall of America. There are real security issues with these and other apps but Trump's response to the problem has more to do with keeping himself in power than with actually protecting Americans. THREAD 1/5

• @amystuddart Amy Studdart on x

  Aside from the fact that it entirely defeats the point of fighting the battle in the first place, we're not going to win the battle for the future by trying to out-China China. https://twitter.com/...

• @shanvav Shannon Vavra on x

  I spoke w/ @JimLangevin on the phone today on TikTok/WeChat/Trump ban: “If they have it on their phones & they're not able to update & get security patches, their devices could become very vulnerable to bad actors that want to access data on their phones.” More @CyberScoopNews ht…

• @jeffstone500 Jeff Stone on x

  Under the guise of protecting national security, White House kneecapped crucial updates to TikTok + WeChat. Here's why the lame duck versions of those apps are dangerous, via @shanvav. https://www.cyberscoop.com/...

• @elcalavero Jan Rydzak on x

  Important thread by @rmack. Speaking as someone who has studied #internetshutdowns and social media bans for years, this move feels like the beginning of a new dark age that will radiate worldwide - and a green light for severe human rights abuses by governments. https://twitter.…

• @mattnavarra Matt Navarra on x

  Would be 🍿 time if it did happen https://www.theverge.com/...