Apple sues Epic Games for breach of contract and seeks damages, says Epic poses “as a modern corporate Robin Hood” but just wants App Store's benefits for free
- Apple on Tuesday filed counterclaims and responses in its legal battle with Fortnite creator Epic Games …
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Discussion
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@matthew_d_green
Matthew Green
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I hope someday someone looks at me the way Apple looks at Apple. https://twitter.com/...
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@pkafka
Peter Kafka
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People also like to read about late-night emails so Apple offered this tale about @TimSweeneyEpic (Epic's legal filings, btw, are also full of purple prose: https://twitter.com/...
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@benedictevans
Benedict Evans
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Latest Apple filing re. Epic: Apple processes $500m of refunds for contested in-app payments each year; Epic has made $600m on iOS. https://www.courtlistener.com/ ...
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@jwangark
James Wang
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In case you're wondering why Epic Games is being so boneheaded and borderline delusional in taking on Apple—the world's most valuable company—it's because in Tim Sweeney's mind, he's building a company that's going to be far more valuable than Apple. https://twitter.com/...
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@pkafka
Peter Kafka
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Apple/Epic/Fornite update: Apple wants damages from Epic, as well as “disgorgement” of “ill-gotten gains”, which is a fun thing to type. But tldr is next meaningful date in this fight is a 9/28 court hearing. https://www.vox.com/...
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@film_girl
Christina Warren
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The billionaire drama sustains me. I need a “Succession” like show about all of this. Or maybe I should pitch it... https://twitter.com/...
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@marcoarment
Marco Arment
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Watch your language, Apple. Dev relations are at an all-time low as you continue to make statements to the effect of “Developers' only value to our platform is IAP commissions.” People buy the iPhone — you know, that hardware you make tons of money from — because of OUR APPS. htt…
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@themusicpimp
Alejandro Marin
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This is a lawyers' world, we just live in it https://www.wsj.com/...
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@eric_seufert
Eric Seufert
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In order to believe that Epic is making progress toward loosening Apple's total control over the App Store, one must suppose that Epic is ultimately going to win its legal battle. But if Epic loses, Apple's control is essentially permanently solidified. https://www.wsj.com/...
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@marcoarment
Marco Arment
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(Not even addressing the false and disproven “everyone plays by the same rules” lie you keep repeating, as well as the massive elephants in the room: Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and every other free app that offer no App Store purchases, yet are somehow OK under this logic.)
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@dominucco
Michael Dominick
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How long until Marco goes #Linux and becomes a leader in the space? I'm terrified lol https://twitter.com/...
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@stroughtonsmith
Steve Troughton-Smith
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😪 Every Apple API you use is a liability in court, apparently. Is there a way for both sides in this lawsuit to lose horribly? Because neither deserve to win any part of this https://twitter.com/...
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@benbajarin
Ben Bajarin
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@stroughtonsmith I do wonder if that wording is there to serve as a counterpoint to the business model suggesting of charging per API call like other services do. I don't think Apple wants that business model.
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@jimmylittle
@jimmylittle
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@marcoarment It's a lawsuit, not a PR blast. The language has to be harsh. App Store rules need to change, AND SOON. But not taking Epic to task for all the crap they pulled with Fortnite would open the door to thousands of other devs putting in stuff that breaks the rules.
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@fosspatents
Florian Mueller
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Apple sees Chinese giant #Tencent behind #EpicGames' #AppStore #antitrust action, brings counterclaims to ensure jury trial http://www.fosspatents.com/... #fortnite #ndca #supercell #freefortnite
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@mustardplays
@mustardplays
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@Slasher Wow, epic doesn't even ask for money in their lawsuit. And apple counters by asking for money after getting close to $300 million from an app they had nothing to do with. Like them less and less every day.
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@mattlynley
Matthew Lynley
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This is seriously the dumbest fight since the Oracle/Google java seventeen million year-long lawsuit https://twitter.com/...
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@caro_milanesi
Carolina Milanesi
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This i#Apple counter claim against #Epic is fascinating - in particular how Apple's legal team has the ability to write in such a way to reach a normal person and emotionally connect https://www.pacermonitor.com/ ...
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@stroughtonsmith
Steve Troughton-Smith
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Apple: Epic only looking for a free ride Epic, according to Apple, has given Apple $257,000,000 in commission fees in two years over in-app purchases that Apple has no hand, act, part in, doesn't host on their servers, just for the privilege of existing on their OS. ‘Free ride’.
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@therealcliffyb
Cliff Bleszinski
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I can't make heads or tails over my former employer's ongoing battle with Apple. Reading the released legal documents is fascinating via @Slasher. I've loved the last few years learning a bit of legalese. It's a system, just like everything else, that one can learn.
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@marcoarment
Marco Arment
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Epic's being a dick. Doesn't mean you have to continually throw your developers under the bus and show us quite how little you think of us and the value we add to your platform.
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@krishnapermi
Krishna Permi
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Apple: ″Epic's lawsuit is nothing more than a basic disagreement over money." https://twitter.com/...
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@grummz
@grummz
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This lawsuit and marketing campaign against Apple, by Epic, makes very little sense. If this ain't a prelude to some massive Epic strategy, then it will end up as a huge blunder by Epic. https://twitter.com/...
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@dez_blanchfield
@dez_blanchfield
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Apple says Epic's Fortnite payment scheme “is theft, period.” Perhaps @Apple should just offer a flat hosting fee? https://arstechnica.com/...
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@migueldeicaza
Miguel de Icaza
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While Apple took the high road with “Fix the issue and all is forgiven” on their response they don't mince words (35 and 37 below): https://twitter.com/...
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@cnbc
@cnbc
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JUST IN: Apple doubles down in its legal battle with Fortnite creator Epic Games, filing a response and counterclaims alleging that the gaming company breached its contract, and seeking an unspecified amount in damages. https://www.cnbc.com/... https://twitter.com/...
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@reneritchie
Rene Ritchie
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“Apple doubles down in fight with Fortnite creator Epic Games, seeks damages for breach of contract” Incl. “You're no Robin Hood.” “Sneak assault on the App Store.” https://www.cnbc.com/...
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@neoavatara
Pradheep J. Shanker
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Just as an anecdote: my son plays Fortnite with his friends. Several of them play on their iPhones. After this past holiday weekend when they could not play? All of them now want to switch to Android. Not sure Apple is thinking this one through... https://www.cnbc.com/...