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Apple unveils 16" MacBook Pro with better speakers, 512GB base storage, and new keyboard with scissor switches, available for pre-order now starting at $2,399

you asked for it. And it's here. https://twitter.com/... Mark Gurman / @markgurman : The screen on the new MacBook Pro is less than 4% larger than the current 15.4 inch. So it's really going to be about the higher resolution, impressive speakers, noise cancelling microphones and of course the all new keyboard (similar to the iMac external Magic Keyboard). Erica Joy / @ericajoy : Wow. Wowwowiewowwow. This is the language Apple is using to combat Chromebooks? Kids who use Macbooks (which are quite cost prohibitive) are going to succeed and the kids using the Chromebooks (which are in financial reach for many more kids and school districts) aren't? WOW. https://twitter.com/... Will Oremus / @willoremus : Apple in 2017: Y'all are crazy, there's nothing wrong with that keyboard. 2018: We've identified a minor flaw in our keyboard and have fixed it, it's fine now. 2019: LOL jk yeah we knew the keyboard was a disaster all along, we just couldn't admit it until we had a new one. @dhh : “We are continuing both keyboard designs”, wait, what?! Schiller seems to be saying that the butterfly nightmare is bound to continue, if you don't buy a pro machine. Did I read that wrong? https://www.cnet.com/... Joanna Stern / @joannastern : @caseyjohnston Would you like to join me in running around in the freezing cold with a laptop? @dcseifert : the new 16-inch MacBook Pro is both thicker and heavier than the 15-inch model it replaces and tbh it's hard to imagine this ever happening under jony ive's watch (to be clear, I don't think Apple's obsession with thinness was a good thing) https://www.theverge.com/... Quinn Nelson / @snazzyq : This was great. Must watch! https://twitter.com/... Zach Latta / @zachlatta : Apple: We care about diversity and inclusion Also Apple: Chromebooks, which cost $200, can run Linux, and are by far the most popular laptop in public schools, will cause your students to fail. Please buy our $2,399 laptop if you want a working keyboard. Remember LAUSD's iPads? https://twitter.com/... Tony Romm / @tonyromm : tell this to schools and school administrators who can barely afford basic supplies, i'm sure they'd love to hear that their problem all along was a lack of spending https://twitter.com/... @macrumors : 16-inch MacBook Pro is here! 🎉 - Larger display - Magic Keyboard with scissor mechanism - A physical Esc key - Up to 8-core 9th-gen Intel processor - Up to 64GB RAM + 8TB storage - Up to AMD Radeon Pro 5500M graphics - Upgraded speakers, mics - $2,399+ https://www.macrumors.com/... pic.twitter.com/mEnRWo7NJy Matthew Panzarino / @panzer : Apple has a new 16" MacBook Pro with a completely new scissor-style keyboard and it feels GREAT. https://techcrunch.com/... @chartier : It just hit me that, across the PowerBook and MacBook lineups, Apple has now made models in 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17-inch sizes. Make an 18-inch MacBook you cowards. Marco Arment / @marcoarment : The 16" MBP's default display setting is a simulated 1792x1120 at 2X, scaled to the actual native panel resolution of 3072x1920. One step “larger” and it's 1536x960 at true, unscaled 2X on the panel. The “most space” option is 2048x1280. https://twitter.com/... pic.twitter.com/mgH93YPwue Matthew Keys / @matthewkeyslive : Yes, Chromebooks made it into the classroom because Chromebooks are cheap. There was a time when Apple committed to giving computers away in California schools, which is why so many of them had Apple IIs. If Apple did the same with their $2,800 laptop... https://twitter.com/... Jeremy Horwitz / @horwitz : Easy to bring the new 16-inch MacBook Pro's price up when the optional 8TB SSD alone is (slightly) more expensive than the entire base computer. https://twitter.com/... pic.twitter.com/L5eDHCU2Pl Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten / @boris : This seems unnecessary harsh and brutal coming from Apple. You don't have to like Chromebooks but claiming they'll make your kid unsuccessful? Wow, would love to see the argumentation behind that one... https://twitter.com/... Joe Rossignol / @rsgnl : I think Apple pretty much nailed it with the 16-inch MacBook Pro. They really addressed a ton of complaints with the scissor keyboard, physical Esc key, inverse-T arrow keys, plus it is faster, has longer battery life, has more RAM and storage, and still starts at $2,399. Seth Weintraub / @llsethj : Wow, Apples defacto head of public relations saying the equivalent of schools need to pay 5x more to get MacBooks for their kids vs Chromebooks doesn't come off well. Being at Apple for awhile you forget that not everyone has unlimited budgets. Schools need help not chiding ffs https://twitter.com/... Casey Johnston / @caseyjohnston : still waiting for my apology https://twitter.com/... Arielle Duhaime-Ross / @adrs : THIS “the lack of an SD card slot when there's this much space to work with seems downright spiteful.” https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/... Owen Williams / @ow : Forgive me for not being enthused about Apple's ‘hail mary’ computer when they sold broken models for four years while insisting there was no problem. Difficult to celebrate them ‘listening’ at all when it shouldn't have happened in the first place Owen Williams / @ow : @reckless @caseyjohnston @JoannaStern And also, more importantly: they didn't listen for four years, never apologized, and left people spending thousands on computers they now need to replace already Nilay Patel / @reckless : Apple's marketing spin on these new MacBook Pros is all about “listening to “customers,” but it's pretty important to note that @caseyjohnston and @joannastern are the actual people who highlighted the problems with the previous keyboards over and over again in their reporting Owen Williams / @ow : TFW “it has a good keyboard” is both a feature and difficult to believe https://www.theverge.com/... Rob Griffiths / @rgriff : Maybe what makes it magic is that it works? https://www.apple.com/... https://twitter.com/... Steve Kovach / @stevekovach : you broke the embargo tim https://twitter.com/... Nilay Patel / @reckless : It really is remarkable that Apple's Mac strategy this year has been “sorry about that, here's the thing you wanted” Tom Warren / @tomwarren : six thousand dollars $$$ pic.twitter.com/2y7JGCUhQJ Rene Ritchie / @reneritchie : Also: #MacPro is coming December. Rack-mount looks hot. Wheels look wheely. Perf is obscene. And there's a new 8TB option. Any questions on the 16-MBP or New MP? Let me know, lots more to come! https://twitter.com/... Rene Ritchie / @reneritchie : 🔥💻 NEW 16-INCH #MACBOOKPRO! Bigger screen, scissor-switch keyboard, up to Core i9 Coffee Lake Refresh, AMD 5500M, 8TB, 64MB, set your own refresh rate, starts at same price as 15-inch! 📺 https://www.youtube.com/... 📝 https://www.imore.com/... https://twitter.com/... Dieter Bohn / @backlon : Here's my hands-on with Apple's new 16-inch MacBook Pro. Keyboard: Good. Esc key: Good. Inverted T arrow keys: Good. Thermals: Optimistic. Speakers: Whoa. Oh yeah right Screen: good. Touchbar: still there. https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/... Tom Warren / @tomwarren : There's a new MacBook Pro, and it has a 16-inch display and Apple has gone back to scissor switches for the keyboard. It still has the Touch Bar, though https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/...

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Discussion

  • @tim_cook Tim Cook on x
    Pros — you asked for it. And it's here. https://twitter.com/...
  • @markgurman Mark Gurman on x
    The screen on the new MacBook Pro is less than 4% larger than the current 15.4 inch. So it's really going to be about the higher resolution, impressive speakers, noise cancelling microphones and of course the all new keyboard (similar to the iMac external Magic Keyboard).
  • @ericajoy Erica Joy on x
    Wow. Wowwowiewowwow. This is the language Apple is using to combat Chromebooks? Kids who use Macbooks (which are quite cost prohibitive) are going to succeed and the kids using the Chromebooks (which are in financial reach for many more kids and school districts) aren't? WOW. htt…
  • @willoremus Will Oremus on x
    Apple in 2017: Y'all are crazy, there's nothing wrong with that keyboard. 2018: We've identified a minor flaw in our keyboard and have fixed it, it's fine now. 2019: LOL jk yeah we knew the keyboard was a disaster all along, we just couldn't admit it until we had a new one.
  • @dhh @dhh on x
    “We are continuing both keyboard designs”, wait, what?! Schiller seems to be saying that the butterfly nightmare is bound to continue, if you don't buy a pro machine. Did I read that wrong? https://www.cnet.com/...
  • @joannastern Joanna Stern on x
    @caseyjohnston Would you like to join me in running around in the freezing cold with a laptop?
  • @dcseifert @dcseifert on x
    the new 16-inch MacBook Pro is both thicker and heavier than the 15-inch model it replaces and tbh it's hard to imagine this ever happening under jony ive's watch (to be clear, I don't think Apple's obsession with thinness was a good thing) https://www.theverge.com/...
  • @snazzyq Quinn Nelson on x
    This was great. Must watch! https://twitter.com/...
  • @zachlatta Zach Latta on x
    Apple: We care about diversity and inclusion Also Apple: Chromebooks, which cost $200, can run Linux, and are by far the most popular laptop in public schools, will cause your students to fail. Please buy our $2,399 laptop if you want a working keyboard. Remember LAUSD's iPads? h…
  • @tonyromm Tony Romm on x
    tell this to schools and school administrators who can barely afford basic supplies, i'm sure they'd love to hear that their problem all along was a lack of spending https://twitter.com/...
  • @macrumors @macrumors on x
    16-inch MacBook Pro is here! 🎉 - Larger display - Magic Keyboard with scissor mechanism - A physical Esc key - Up to 8-core 9th-gen Intel processor - Up to 64GB RAM + 8TB storage - Up to AMD Radeon Pro 5500M graphics - Upgraded speakers, mics - $2,399+ https://www.macrumors.com/.…
  • @panzer Matthew Panzarino on x
    Apple has a new 16" MacBook Pro with a completely new scissor-style keyboard and it feels GREAT. https://techcrunch.com/...
  • @chartier @chartier on x
    It just hit me that, across the PowerBook and MacBook lineups, Apple has now made models in 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17-inch sizes. Make an 18-inch MacBook you cowards.
  • @marcoarment Marco Arment on x
    The 16" MBP's default display setting is a simulated 1792x1120 at 2X, scaled to the actual native panel resolution of 3072x1920. One step “larger” and it's 1536x960 at true, unscaled 2X on the panel. The “most space” option is 2048x1280. https://twitter.com/... pic.twitter.com/m…
  • @matthewkeyslive Matthew Keys on x
    Yes, Chromebooks made it into the classroom because Chromebooks are cheap. There was a time when Apple committed to giving computers away in California schools, which is why so many of them had Apple IIs. If Apple did the same with their $2,800 laptop... https://twitter.com/...
  • @horwitz Jeremy Horwitz on x
    Easy to bring the new 16-inch MacBook Pro's price up when the optional 8TB SSD alone is (slightly) more expensive than the entire base computer. https://twitter.com/... pic.twitter.com/L5eDHCU2Pl
  • @boris Boris Veldhuijzen van Zanten on x
    This seems unnecessary harsh and brutal coming from Apple. You don't have to like Chromebooks but claiming they'll make your kid unsuccessful? Wow, would love to see the argumentation behind that one... https://twitter.com/...
  • @rsgnl Joe Rossignol on x
    I think Apple pretty much nailed it with the 16-inch MacBook Pro. They really addressed a ton of complaints with the scissor keyboard, physical Esc key, inverse-T arrow keys, plus it is faster, has longer battery life, has more RAM and storage, and still starts at $2,399.
  • @llsethj Seth Weintraub on x
    Wow, Apples defacto head of public relations saying the equivalent of schools need to pay 5x more to get MacBooks for their kids vs Chromebooks doesn't come off well. Being at Apple for awhile you forget that not everyone has unlimited budgets. Schools need help not chiding ffs h…
  • @caseyjohnston Casey Johnston on x
    still waiting for my apology https://twitter.com/...
  • @adrs Arielle Duhaime-Ross on x
    THIS “the lack of an SD card slot when there's this much space to work with seems downright spiteful.” https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @ow Owen Williams on x
    Forgive me for not being enthused about Apple's ‘hail mary’ computer when they sold broken models for four years while insisting there was no problem. Difficult to celebrate them ‘listening’ at all when it shouldn't have happened in the first place
  • @ow Owen Williams on x
    @reckless @caseyjohnston @JoannaStern And also, more importantly: they didn't listen for four years, never apologized, and left people spending thousands on computers they now need to replace already
  • @reckless Nilay Patel on x
    Apple's marketing spin on these new MacBook Pros is all about “listening to “customers,” but it's pretty important to note that @caseyjohnston and @joannastern are the actual people who highlighted the problems with the previous keyboards over and over again in their reporting
  • @ow Owen Williams on x
    TFW “it has a good keyboard” is both a feature and difficult to believe https://www.theverge.com/...
  • @rgriff Rob Griffiths on x
    Maybe what makes it magic is that it works? https://www.apple.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @stevekovach Steve Kovach on x
    you broke the embargo tim https://twitter.com/...
  • @reckless Nilay Patel on x
    It really is remarkable that Apple's Mac strategy this year has been “sorry about that, here's the thing you wanted”
  • @tomwarren Tom Warren on x
    six thousand dollars $$$ pic.twitter.com/2y7JGCUhQJ
  • @reneritchie Rene Ritchie on x
    Also: #MacPro is coming December. Rack-mount looks hot. Wheels look wheely. Perf is obscene. And there's a new 8TB option. Any questions on the 16-MBP or New MP? Let me know, lots more to come! https://twitter.com/...
  • @reneritchie Rene Ritchie on x
    🔥💻 NEW 16-INCH #MACBOOKPRO! Bigger screen, scissor-switch keyboard, up to Core i9 Coffee Lake Refresh, AMD 5500M, 8TB, 64MB, set your own refresh rate, starts at same price as 15-inch! 📺 https://www.youtube.com/... 📝 https://www.imore.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @backlon Dieter Bohn on x
    Here's my hands-on with Apple's new 16-inch MacBook Pro. Keyboard: Good. Esc key: Good. Inverted T arrow keys: Good. Thermals: Optimistic. Speakers: Whoa. Oh yeah right Screen: good. Touchbar: still there. https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @tomwarren Tom Warren on x
    There's a new MacBook Pro, and it has a 16-inch display and Apple has gone back to scissor switches for the keyboard. It still has the Touch Bar, though https://www.theverge.com/... https://twitter.com/...