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TikTok says it will go dark in the US on Sunday unless the Biden admin provides a “definitive statement” to critical service providers assuring non-enforcement

TikTok said its services will go dark on Sunday without a guarantee from the Biden administration that it won't punish Apple

CNBC Salvador Rodriguez

Context & Ripple Effects

TikTok's warning escalates a deadline that had initially been framed around stopping new app downloads: earlier reporting said the company was prepared to switch off its US app absent a court intervention. The Biden administration had meanwhile signaled it was exploring ways to implement the law without an outage and then said it would not force a shutdown before leaving implementation to Trump.

The immediate issue is not just TikTok's app availability but whether the infrastructure and distribution companies it depends on will accept legal exposure without a written enforcement position. That distinction became consequential when TikTok and CapCut subsequently suspended US service while pointing to a potential political solution.

First-order effects

  • TikTok makes continued US service conditional on an explicit non-enforcement assurance, increasing pressure on the Biden administration to clarify its position before the deadline.
  • Critical service providers, including Apple as a distribution gatekeeper, must decide whether informal political signals are sufficient to keep supporting TikTok.

Second-order effects

  • The dispute shifts leverage toward app stores and other service providers: their legal-risk assessment can determine whether a platform remains usable even if the platform itself wants to operate.
  • A handoff to the incoming administration prolongs uncertainty for TikTok's US users and commercial ecosystem, while placing any restoration of service behind a policy decision rather than a purely technical one.

Third-order effects

  • If enforcement is mediated through distribution and infrastructure providers, platform restrictions can become effective without directly policing every user or creator—a broader expansion of the liability placed on service providers.
  • The episode may establish that cross-border platform policy is negotiated through interim enforcement discretion as much as through statutory deadlines, leaving access dependent on changing executive interpretations.

The trend: Platform regulation is increasingly being enforced at distribution and infrastructure choke points, making service-provider liability central to whether a consumer app can operate.

Discussion

  • @marizaga @marizaga on bluesky
    Couldn't do TikTok, vibed it'd be detrimental to my time/sanity.  😵‍💫 But mebbe folks who rely on SM for income could consider blessing in disguise, kick-start thinking abt diversifying not be reliant on single provider/stream, consider IRL one in their local community (honest in…
  • @pwnallthethings @pwnallthethings on bluesky
    It's kind of fascinating—tho perhaps in a somewhat bleak way—that Congress has been so dysfunctional for such a long time that core institutions (even including the other branches) just no longer take seriously the idea that Congress is a functional legislature
  • @conorsen Conor Sen on bluesky
    Very normal for a for-profit business to voluntarily shut down when it's in the middle of a legal/political dispute.  [embedded post]
  • @nycsouthpaw @nycsouthpaw on bluesky
    The most absurd thing about this whole brouhaha is no one—not even Tik Tok—calls on Congress to amend or repeal the dumb law it made.  It's just the president or the courts who can act now, in literally every prominent voice's conception.  [embedded post]
  • @rgoodlaw Ryan Goodman on bluesky
    So within 24 hours of a unanimous Supreme Court upholding the statute, and after the company had nearly 270 days to divest ...  #TikTok demands the U.S. government take a lawless action:  —  “immediately provides a definitive statement...assuring non-enforcement.”  —  Where's tha…
  • @brianfung.me Brian Fung on bluesky
    Just in: TikTok says it plans to shut itself down Sunday unless Biden publicly pledges non-enforcement.  TikTok wants everyone to be sure Biden is to blame, which conveniently also curries favor with Trump.  [image]
  • @brianstelter Brian Stelter on threads
    TikTok execs, however, do not believe that the Biden admin has been explicit enough.  Some service producers — companies that would face exorbitant fines for allowing access to TikTok once the ban takes effect — told TikTok on Friday that they still feel vulnerable, according to …
  • @brianstelter Brian Stelter on threads
    That's what prompted TikTok to issue its public warning.  The company wants the Biden administration to rule out “enforcement” of the law.  But the Biden admin believes its statement was sufficiently clear, a WH official told me. …
  • @tomgara Tom Gara on threads
    This isn't rocket science, people!  I can kind of understand thinking the ban would happen two weeks ago, but still thinking this today suggests a real inability to see what's in front of your eyes
  • @mike_isaac Mike Isaac on threads
    this is so funny.  Biden admin realizes at the last possible second that it is bad politics to ban tiktok and alienate literallly every american zoomer so they pass the buck to trump admin and say “woah woah woah its not on us” meanwhile the app stores are like “bro …
  • @wongmjane Jane Manchun Wong on threads
    Let's not forget it's previous administration that started the idea of banning TikTok in the first place Now the hot potato is passed back to him
  • @tomgara Tom Gara on threads
    Biden passed a law that would ban TikTok at midnight on a Sunday on his last day in office, so obviously this is all a sneaky communist plot to help Trump
  • @mwi.invest Michael Ibrahim on threads
    The presidency cannot legally assure service providers like Apple, Google, or Oracle that they won't be held liable for supporting TikTok.  Penalties are enforceable unless Congress amends the law or courts overturn it.  While the President can influence enforcement priorities (d…
  • @ronaldfilipkowski Ron Filipkowski on threads
    This is a ploy so they can shut it down on Sunday, blame it on Biden, then turn it back on in 1-2 days so Trump can play the hero and claim credit.  It's sad to see that the Chinese Communist Party is working with Trump so closely to deceive app users and the American people.
  • @tiktokpolicy @tiktokpolicy on x
    Statement on Possible Shutdown The statements issued today by both the Biden White House and the Department of Justice have failed to provide the necessary clarity and assurance to the service providers that are integral to maintaining TikTok's availability to over 170 million Am…
  • @deitaone @deitaone on x
    WHITE HOUSE SAYS THE MOST RECENT STATEMENT FROM TIKTOK IS A STUNT
  • @alexweprin Alex Weprin on x
    TikTok today is a mix of creators playing their best hits and saying goodbye and unhinged posts from brands.
  • @malinowski Tom Malinowski on x
    Hey @TikTokPolicy - you had 268 days to begin divestment talks, and didn't try. So after spending millions buying political influence, you're asking the President to violate a law passed by Congress & upheld by the courts. Fortunately we're not as corrupt as China (yet).
  • @noahpollak Noah Pollak on x
    Don't let the door hit you on the way out
  • @brianstelter Brian Stelter on x
    Bottom line: TikTok executives are exerting maximum pressure to keep the app alive in the U.S. over the long term. [video]
  • @brianstelter Brian Stelter on x
    The service providers “do not feel that they've been given enough assurance that they will not be liable,” the person said. That's what prompted TikTok to issue its public warning. The company wants the Biden administration to rule out “enforcement” of the law.
  • @adamkovac Adam Kovacevich on x
    Cheeky. “It's Biden's fault for not promising to ignore a law that he signed and Congress passed unanimously.”
  • @rushdoshi Rush Doshi on x
    TikTok had 268 days to sell itself so it wasn't operated by China. That would have solved everything. But they didn't even try. China wouldn't let them. Now, with time short, they want Biden to ignore a bipartisan law SCOTUS upheld 9-0. If they shut down, it's on them.
  • @brianstelter Brian Stelter on x
    The Biden admin had sought to assuage those concerns on Friday morning by saying that “actions to implement the law simply must fall to the next Administration, which takes office on Monday.” TikTok execs, however, do not believe that the Biden admin has been explicit enough...
  • @mikesacksesq Mike Sacks on x
    Safe to say that whatever Biden decides to do in his final 36 hours in office, Trump surely won't take this very good advice from the outgoing Solicitor General [image]
  • @brianstelter Brian Stelter on x
    Some service producers — companies that would face exorbitant fines for allowing access to TikTok once the ban takes effect — told TikTok on Friday that they still feel vulnerable, according to a person familiar with the matter. This is the key point >>>
  • @davidclinchnews David Clinch on x
    This is such bullshit theater. Everyone involved should be embarrassed. There are real national security and first amendment issues at stake and nobody wants to own this mess.
  • @brianstelter Brian Stelter on x
    But the Biden admin believes its statement was sufficiently clear, a WH official told me. While the official did not rule out further action before the Sunday deadline, they said the admin had clearly signaled that it would not penalize service providers for hosting TikTok.
  • @mikesacksesq Mike Sacks on x
    This demand for assurances of nonenforcement to the providers seems to have arisen directly from Kavanaugh's questions to SG Prelogar during the oral arguments [image]
  • r/technology r on reddit
    TikTok says it will go dark on Sunday unless Biden intervenes
  • @mikealves Michael Alves on bluesky
    I'm surprised TikTok hasn't donated to his inauguration yet.
  • @undersized5 @undersized5 on bluesky
    US Gov't believes TikTok allows for foreign entity to influence US policy, as a TikTok law is being floated, TikTok uses TikTok to tell people how to reach out to their congressperson.  Now as SCOTUS upholds ban, TikTok uses TikTok to influence president elect.  These are interes…
  • @kwirl Roger on bluesky
    Its almost like they know the incoming administration doesn't respect the rule of law
  • r/technology r on reddit
    TikTok CEO flatters Trump ahead of US ban deadline
  • @mmasnick Mike Masnick on bluesky
    So, the one silver lining I see in the TikTok ruling is not a single Justice appears to have taken Trump's plea to “hey, just put this on hold until my brilliant negotiating skills can fix everything.”
  • @cyberciti.biz @cyberciti.biz on bluesky
    It is official now.  #TikTok faces ban in US by Sunday after Supreme Court rejects appeal www.bbc.com/news/live/cz... Under the terms of the law, service provides like Apple and Google will be penalized for supporting TikTok after the law's deadline.
  • @mattdpearce.com Matt Pearce on bluesky
    The Supes interestingly focused on the data-mining and sidestepped concerns about the Chinese government meddling with TikTok's algo.  Gorsuch's concurrence here muddily expresses skepticism of that idea.  (The speech here is by the algo operators, not the users.)  —  www.supreme…
  • @timmarchman Tim Marchman on bluesky
    This is a relief—at last Americans can use the internet secure in the knowledge that their data are safe from the prying eyes of foreign intelligence agencies that don't have access to credit cards.
  • @mattdpearce.com Matt Pearce on bluesky
    Reading the 9-0 TikTok ruling.  Newsroom unionizing had already given me a darker view of the First Amendment — whether you are a platform user or a staff reporter, your speech rights are typically irrelevant when placed next to the ownership's.  We are tenants.  —  www.supremeco…
  • @nytceciliakang Cecilia Kang on bluesky
    TikTok's only lifeline was Trump stepping in asap.  He just posted that he needs time to review the situation and that he'll make a decision in the “not too distant future,” which is absolutely not the vague timeline TikTok wanted.
  • @makenakelly Makena Kelly on bluesky
    In the end, SCOTUS rules that the law did not violate the free speech rights of TikTok or its users and that the national security risks alleged by the US government were enough to uphold it.  —  More on TikTok's future here:  —  www.wired.com/story/tiktok...
  • @petersterne.com Peter Sterne on bluesky
    Whether or not TikTok actually ends up being banned - it seems that the Biden admin and the lawmakers who championed the ban, not to mention the incoming Trump admin, all now don't want it to go into effect - this is a very dangerous ruling for democracy and free speech.
  • @lucas.meyerperin.org Lucas A. Meyer on bluesky
    I think that TikTok is likely to be owned by Musk on Monday.  This may be a very effective way to keep using TikTok for anti American propaganda, if it is not directly pro-CCP propaganda.
  • @zeyiyang Zeyi Yang on bluesky
    My 3 cents after reading the SCOTUS opinion that upheld the TikTok ban 9:0  —  1. Gorsuch disagrees the most, though he still joined the decision.  He wrote he has “serious reservations about whether the law before us is ‘content neutral’ and thus escapes ‘strict scrutiny.’  —  w…
  • @trevor Trevor Croker on bluesky
    One thing is for sure, SCOTUS just raised the stakes for the cage match on the inauguration dais
  • @caseynewton Casey Newton on bluesky
    This may be our first case in Trump 2.0 where Congress and the courts say one thing and then Trump just does whatever he wants
  • @authormattrouse.hookdm.com Matt Rouse on bluesky
    It guess the clock has run out for Tik Tok for now... And people are flocking from X and Meta, so @bsky.app is about to get another big boost.  —  Quick!  Start making vertical video skits and pretending they are IRL!  Make up a dance to part of a song!  Cooking demos slapping in…
  • @ebakerwhite Emily Baker-White on bluesky
    Here, SCOTUS dodges the heart of the argument before it — whether the US gov can manipulate the speech ecosystem to stop the CN gov from manipulating the speech ecosystem.  Instead, they say, there's no reason to believe the speech ecosystem rationale was necessary to Congress pa…
  • @menaganey Mena Ganey on bluesky
    Zuck and Musk bought Clarence a G5.  [embedded post]
  • @willoremus.com Will Oremus on bluesky
    I said in my first post that the court “ruled” that the law implicates the First Amendment.  On closer read, that's not quite right.  The court “assume[d] without deciding” that the law implicates the First Amendment, and concluded that even if it does, only intermediate scrutiny…
  • @thedextriarchy Adi Robertson on bluesky
    So, the current state of play:  — Supreme Court upholds TikTok ban  — Biden's not enforcing it because c'mon man, it's a weekend  — Could hypothetically see a Sunday shutdown anyway for risk management or a show of force  — Trump has nebulous rescue plans for Monday …
  • @willoremus.com Will Oremus on bluesky
    The Supreme Court upholds the TikTok ban.  —  Legally speaking, the opinion seems straightforward: The court ruled that the law does implicate the First Amendment, but because it is “content-neutral,” it merits only “intermediate scrutiny,” not the much higher bar of “strict scru…
  • @klonick Kate Klonick on bluesky
    SCOTUS TikTok decision just dropped.  —  TikTok Ban will go into effect on Sunday, January 19, 2025.  —  Per curiam opinion with Sotoymayor and Gorsuch writing separate concurrences  —  www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/ 24p...
  • @christopherterry Christopher Terry on bluesky
    Well, just in time to add it to the syllabus.  —  www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/ 24p...  Folks better start getting ready to see this approach...often: [image]
  • @mjsdc Mark Joseph Stern on bluesky
    The Supreme Court also declines to consider “classified evidence,” which the government refused to show the public, that allegedly supported the ban, relying on publicly available information instead.  (Gorsuch had concerns about this at argument and supports the court's approach…
  • @mjsdc Mark Joseph Stern on bluesky
    The Supreme Court holds that strict scrutiny does NOT apply to the TikTok ban, applying intermediate scrutiny instead.  And the court relies SOLELY on Congress' argument that TikTok gives the Chinese govt access to private data, declining to endorse the “covert manipulation of co…
  • @mjsdc Mark Joseph Stern on bluesky
    The Supreme Court UPHOLDS the TikTok ban with no noted dissents, turning away a First Amendment challenge: www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/ 24p...
  • @nixCraft@mastodon.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social on mastodon
    It is official now.  TikTok faces ban in US by Sunday after Supreme Court rejects appeal https://www.bbc.com/... Under the terms of the law, service provides like Apple and Google will be penalized for supporting TikTok after the law's deadline.  In other words, app will gone fro…
  • @Dhmspector@mastodon.social Dave Spector on mastodon
    Well, this is going to get interesting.  How much political, social, and literal capital are rightwingers going to sped in order to continue allowing access to these isolating, addictive, manipulative systems?  —  https://www.theverge.com/...
  • @chancehmiller Chance Miller on threads
    Biden admin on Supreme Court's TikTok decision today: “Given the sheer fact of timing, this Administration recognizes that actions to implement the law simply must fall to the next Administration, which takes office on Monday.”  If only someone had looked at a calendar nine month…
  • @pamelabrowncnn Pamela Brown on x
    PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP REACTS TO SUPREME COURT DECISION ON TIKTOK: “It ultimately goes up to me, so you're going to see what I'm going to do,” Trump tells me in a brief phone call.  He goes on: “Congress has given me the decision, so I'll be making the decision.”  He did not provi…
  • @tiktokpolicy @tiktokpolicy on x
    Our response to the Supreme Court decision: https://www.tiktok.com/...
  • @senatorcantwell Sen. Maria Cantwell on x
    The U.S. government has been trying to get ByteDance to divest since the 2020 Trump Administration Executive Order. I hope President Trump does not now become the one to blink and lose this crucial contest with China. (3/3)
  • @jacobfisherdf Jacob on x
    AJ and Big Justice are gonna make January 6 look like child's play
  • @s4rah_dev @s4rah_dev on x
    @armankhon Obvious question is were they doing what they are accused of doing?
  • @armankhon Arman on x
    @BecauseCulture tiktok algorithm is so much better than reels or youtube shorts. it's honestly not even close.
  • @rabois Keith Rabois on x
    Despite legacy media coverage of TikTok's fake legal arguments, 11 of 12 federal appellate judges and justices summarily rejected their protestations.
  • @senatorcantwell Sen. Maria Cantwell on x
    The Supreme Court's 9-0 decision confirmed that there's a real ‘there’ there when it comes to foreign agents' influence on TikTok and the threat to national security. (1/3)
  • @tobyhardtospell Toby Muresianu on x
    @armankhon @s4rah_dev Are you saying Meta manipulates the algorithm at the behest of the government to promote politically advantageous content abroad?
  • @mikeisaac Rat King on x
    farewell BookTok, hello, uh, BookXiaohongshu [image]
  • @armankhon Arman on x
    @s4rah_dev short answer yes, but nothing too different from any other big tech *cough* meta.
  • @armankhon Arman on x
    @tobyhardtospell @s4rah_dev did you follow the past US elections at all?
  • @aaron_kub Aaron Kub on x
    @armankhon I suspect the engineering bar is quite high at TikTok? Hopefully a lot of these folks can quickly find a home at other tech companies. Would not be surprised if Meta already has a plan to swoop them up
  • @georgemonbiot George Monbiot on x
    Tiktok has been banned in the US on the grounds that China could use it “to manipulate and control Americans by spreading propaganda and misinformation.” In other words, China *might do* exactly what Elon Musk *has done* with X. It's a blatant double standard.
  • @armankhon Arman on x
    @ThatMoni if tiktok poses a national security threat, then meta poses a domestic terrorist threat.
  • @msuster Mark Suster on x
    Big victory for national security. Unanimous decision by Supreme Court to ban or sell TikTok 💪🏼 💪🏼 Reminder: China doesn't allow US social media for the same reason. [image]
  • @becauseculture Annalisa Fernandez on x
    @armankhon Is the “secret sauce” algorithm today any better than the competition? Or is it now just the network effects of the originally novel UI off the interest graph?
  • @thatmoni Moni on x
    @armankhon Do you personally believe TikTok poses a national security threat?
  • @senatorcantwell Sen. Maria Cantwell on x
    I hope the Trump administration will find a solution to shut the Chinese government backdoor, improve the platform, and help content creators earn more revenue for their work. (2/3)
  • @armankhon Arman on x
    I quit my $330k engineering job at TikTok. Supreme Court upholds TikTok ban. Ask Me Anything.
  • @jkarl26 Jessica Karl on x
    TikTok changed SO many lives. But there's a part of me that wonders whether the big cultural shift we're all dreading — the app's demise — could be the first step to solving our creativity crisis. Read my latest @opinion column for free: https://www.bloomberg.com/...
  • @armankhon Arman on x
    @aaron_kub yea all my ex-teammates interviewing with meta, the biggest monopoly of all time about to take place.
  • @mikeisaac Rat King on x
    TikTok engineer doing an ‘ask me anything’ on twitter has been an interesting thing to watch taking this opportunity to plug our story from this morning that likely got lost in the news deluge Meta and YT are gearing up bigtime, per internal reporting https://www.nytimes.com/... …
  • @cremieuxrecueil @cremieuxrecueil on x
    TikTok is a danger not just to its users, but also to their friends, colleagues, and acquaintances whose contact information is also gathered by the app. The ban can't come soon enough.
  • @russwarne Russell T. Warne on x
    I read the legal opinion. Here's what you should know: ➡️TikTok lost almost every single argument it made. ➡️This is a 9-0 ruling. That sends a resounding message. ➡️TikTok's data collection practices are insane. The app gather data that other apps normally consider off limits,
  • @jason_kint Jason Kint on x
    The most undercovered story about to happen is the $100 million of advertising spend that may need a new home starting in 48 hours. That desire and demand creation is what fuels the entire business. There will be other homes for it.
  • @ali_lev Alexandra S. Levine on x
    Today's SCOTUS decision on TikTok forces leaders both within the company and in Beijing to consider a dwindling set of alternatives to keep the app alive. Trump says “I must have time to review the situation.” On the (messy) road ahead, w/ @KurtWagner8:https://www.bloomberg.com/ …
  • @saraeisen Sara Eisen on x
    If President Trump wants to preserve TikTok in the U.S. beyond Sunday because of a credible divestiture on the table, Frank McCourt is ready.
  • @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x
    America should never silence any publisher of speech. Democracy is strong and will survive challenge from other ideas, foreign and domestic. Now we'll see if Apple and Google, who censor American speech in China, will now silence a Chinese publisher in America.
  • @pitdesi Sheel Mohnot on x
    Interesting that the market isn't pricing in any benefit to Meta if TikTok gets banned. They stand to gain most IMO— look at IG Reels in India after TikTok left. Competitors popped up, but Reels dominated. India became IG's biggest market, jumped from 50M DAUs to 220M! [image]
  • @kyurieff Kaya Yurieff on x
    New from me and @JuroOsawa on lead up to SCOTUS decision: -TikTok CEO never explained clear backup plan if legal fight failed. At times, said he hadn't thought about it -TikTok operated biz as usual -Staff are finishing 2024 performance reviews this week https://www.theinformatio…
  • @trungtphan Trung Phan on x
    Just realized something about the TikTok Ban. What if this leads to China turning around and banning a bunch of foreign media and tech such as: • Facebook • X/Twitter • Instagram • YouTube • WhatsApp • Netflix • Google • Google Maps • Google Drive • Google Docs •
  • @nikitabier Nikita Bier on x
    The fact TikTok didn't sell, despite having many willing buyers, is a testament that it was an agent of the CCP.
  • @geiger_capital @geiger_capital on x
    Important to note that this was a unanimous vote by the Supreme Court. The entire court from left to right ruled that free speech rights must yield to national security concerns from a foreign adversary.
  • @binarybits Timothy B. Lee on x
    The first Amendment arguments against requiring TikTok to divest always seemed ridiculous, so I'm glad that all nine justices rejected them.
  • @craigcaplan Craig Caplan on x
    SCOTUS upholds TikTok divest from China or ban bill ahead of Sunday's deadline: “Congress has determined that divestiture is necessary to address its well-supported national security concerns regarding TikTok's data collection practices and relationship with a foreign adversary.”
  • @amir Amir Efrati on x
    few realize that TikTok's secret change to content moderation rules—including allowing claims that Trump won the 2020 election—is what's going to save the app [image]
  • @adamkovac Adam Kovacevich on x
    TikTok Predictions: 1. No last ditch ByteDance effort to sell 2. No 90 day extension (requires effort by ByteDance, see #1; plus law prob doesn't let Trump do it) 3. Trump announces non-enforcement EO - but Google and Apple decide legal/fine risk too great to trust it 4. TT shuts
  • @matthewstoller Matt Stoller on x
    This opinion is a rejection of an ever expanding corporate First Amendment. “Petitioners, for their part, have not identified any case in which this Court has treated a regulation of corporate control as a direct regulation of expressive activity or semi-expressive conduct.”
  • @pkafka Peter Kafka on x
    Republicans are happy to talk about banning TikTok. Not so excited to talk about Trump unbanning TikTok. Via @PunchbowlNews https://punchbowl.news/... [image]
  • @fromedome Dan Frommer on x
    Even among daily users of TikTok, fewer than half think no, the Chinese government is not using TikTok's content recommendation algorithm to make Americans feel more socially and politically divided. [image]
  • @dannyctkemp Danny Kemp on x
    Dear Donald, TikTok is your problem. Cheers, Joe [image]
  • @pkafka Peter Kafka on x
    All that said: If Trump did just ignore the ban or try to overturn it with an order, who would challenge him in court?
  • @pkafka Peter Kafka on x
    The Court didn't take up the issue of whether Trump could overturn the law with a congressional order, as @RichLightShed argues. But it did note multiple times that the government's argument that ByteDance-owned TikTok could be a security threat is convincing.
  • @pkafka Peter Kafka on x
    The law is clear that once the ban goes into Sunday, it can't be undone unless ByteDance sells off U.S. TikTok. https://www.businessinsider.com/ ...
  • @danprimack Dan Primack on x
    Lot of people in the U.S. seem to assume that ByteDance=TikTok, but reality is that ByteDance has a lot of other assets. Including a TikTok clone of sorts in China. Losing TikTok would hurt ByteDance, but wouldn't kill it.
  • @danprimack Dan Primack on x
    This is not how the law is written. It's just not.
  • @appcensorship @appcensorship on x
    🚨 Banning TikTok sets a dangerous precedent for censorship. ❌ It mirrors tactics of authoritarian regimes. ❌ It fragments the global internet. ❌ It distracts from real tech reforms like privacy laws. Censorship isn't the answer. Protect digital rights. #NoTikTokBan
  • @danprimack Dan Primack on x
    The law on TikTok is very clear. Including a mandate to enforce. If Trump doesn't enforce, then it raises some pretty big constitutional questions (true also of Biden, but only for 12 hours). https://www.axios.com/...
  • @danprimack Dan Primack on x
    Senate staffer to me this morning: “ByteDance now knows we're serious about banning it.” I almost spit out my coffee.
  • @mikesacksesq Mike Sacks on x
    At least Congress and SCOTUS didn't buy into what was a super gross (like, SUPER gross) influence campaign
  • @kevinbankston Kevin Bankston on x
    The fact we're getting this garbage 1st am decision deferring to vague natsec fears just as the great TikTok FlipFlop has both parties backing away from the need for a ban shows just how conclusively this court failed in its stated goal in the intro not to “embarrass the future.”
  • @committeeonccp @committeeonccp on x
    BREAKING: Supreme Court has upheld the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act “This... is not a ban on TikTok. It is a pathway to a safer, better TikTok. This is the first step - now it is time to make the deal of the century.” - @RepMoolenaar [vi…
  • @danielahanley Daniel Hanley on x
    Regardless of what one thinks of the actual substance of the ban, for purposes of Congressional power to regulate corporations, this SCOTUS decision is going to be an important opinion for the antimonopoly movement. [image]
  • @adamkovac Adam Kovacevich on x
    What jumped out at me from the SCOTUS ruling: “FOREIGN ADVERSARY CONTROL”: “TikTok's scale and susceptibility to foreign adversary control, together with the sensitive data the platform collections, justify differential treatment to address the Government's national security [ima…
  • @mikesacksesq Mike Sacks on x
    Sotomayor writes separately to say the law certainly implicates the 1st Amendment (as opposed to just assuming it does), but agrees the ban is constitutional [image]
  • @sentomcotton Tom Cotton on x
    ByteDance and its Chinese Communist masters had nine months to sell TikTok before the Sunday deadline. The very fact that Communist China refuses to permit its sale reveals exactly what TikTok is: a communist spy app. The Supreme Court correctly rejected TikTok's lies and
  • @adrianweckler Adrian Weckler on x
    Yep, Sunday's TikTok ban upheld by US Supreme Court. Still doesn't mean it will actually happen for sure. As it stands, Apple and Google due to delete TikTok from (US) app stores. But if they're given assurance that Trump won't prosecute, they may not https://www.independent.ie/.…
  • @mikesacksesq Mike Sacks on x
    The unsigned opinion applies intermediate scrutiny to say the ban doesn't violate the 1st Amendment [image]
  • @geoffreyfowler Geoffrey A. Fowler on x
    Supreme Court upholds TikTok ban set to start on Sunday. Trump has promised to save TikTok — now the question is how? https://www.washingtonpost.com/ ...
  • @ali_lev Alexandra S. Levine on x
    BREAKING ON TIKTOK: The Supreme Court has ruled to UPHOLD the TikTok divest-or-ban law, clearing the way for a potential nationwide shutdown on Sunday. Several moving parts that could change how this shakes out. News coming from @GregStohr @KurtWagner8 @business and me
  • @willguyatt Will Guyatt on x
    Does Trump refuse to ban it? Does the law get ignored? What a bloody mess. I'm unpacking this on radio and tv over next few hours
  • @richlightshed @richlightshed on x
    #SCOTUS upholds TikTok ban https://www.supremecourt.gov/ ...
  • @mgsiegler M.G. Siegler on x
    The Tok Tiks Midnight!
  • r/China r on reddit
    Supreme Court upholds law banning TikTok if it's not sold by its Chinese parent company
  • r/technology r on reddit
    Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban
  • r/Music r on reddit
    Supreme Court upholds law banning TikTok if it's not sold by its Chinese parent company
  • r/RedditIPO r on reddit
    Supreme Court upholds TikTok ban, threatening app's existence in the U.S. : NPR
  • r/technology r on reddit
    SCOTUS upholds TikTok ban
  • r/AntiTrumpAlliance r on reddit
    Supreme Court upholds law banning TikTok if it's not sold by its Chinese parent company
  • r/democrats r on reddit
    Supreme Court rules to uphold TikTok ban, setting the stage for U.S. users to lose access Sunday
  • r/NewsOfTheStupid r on reddit
    Supreme Court upholds law banning TikTok if it's not sold by its Chinese parent company
  • r/NPR r on reddit
    Supreme Court upholds TikTok ban, threatening app's existence in the U.S.
  • r/Destiny r on reddit
    Supreme Court upholds law banning TikTok if it's not sold by its Chinese parent company
  • r/popculturechat r on reddit
    The Supreme Court Unanimously Rules That TikTok Will Be Banned Unless Sold
  • r/politics r on reddit
    Supreme Court upholds law banning TikTok if it's not sold by its Chinese parent company
  • r/news r on reddit
    Supreme Court upholds law banning TikTok if it's not sold by its Chinese parent company
  • r/law r on reddit
    Supreme Court holds unanimously that TikTok ban is constitutional
  • r/moderatepolitics r on reddit
    Per Curiam: TikTok Inc. v. Garland
  • r/neoliberal r on reddit
    TikTok Inc. v. Garland (24-656) (Per Curiam) |  The challenged provisions of the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, 138 Stat. …
  • r/scotus r on reddit
    Supreme Court holds unanimously that TikTok's ban is constitutional
  • @documentingmeta @documentingmeta on threads
    EVEN if Trump says he'll not enforce the TikTok ban, Google and Apple will delist it.  If they didn't, as soon as Trump decided he wanted to hurt them, he could just suddenly decide to enforce it and fine them billions.  That's more risk than those companies probably want from so…
  • r/Enough_Sanders_Spam r on reddit
    TikTok says it will go dark on Sunday unless Biden intervenes ‘immediately’
  • r/ConservativeKiwi r on reddit
    TikTok says it will go dark on Sunday unless Biden intervenes ‘immediately’
  • r/China r on reddit
    Trump phoned Xijinping at 9 in the morning, Xi answered it at 10 in the night.  A subtle power disparity.
  • r/politics r on reddit
    TikTok says it will go dark on Sunday unless Biden intervenes ‘immediately’
  • WCAX-TV Claire Jones on x
    University of Vermont students react to potential TikTok ban
  • @drdoofenschmirtz @drdoofenschmirtz on bluesky
    It was bad policy where politicians reacted obtusely without any input from the public.  If I were forced to make a case against representative democracy, this would be a solid data point.
  • @wilkos @wilkos on bluesky
    Politics haven't shifted - the Trump payout has shifted
  • @sahilkapur Sahil Kapur on bluesky
    NEW: Some U.S. leaders and lawmakers backpedal on eve of TikTok ban  —  The divest-or-ban law passed the House 360-58 and the Senate 79-18, tied to Ukraine/Israel aid.  —  Now some of those members who voted yes want a mulligan.  —  www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...
  • @saywhatagain Chris Wade on x
    It's amazing the TikTok ban was 100% a Trump/GOP thing originally that the Dems found some way to completely politically own and then set Trump up to be the heroic savior of a popular platform. Absolute masterclass.
  • @blake_allen13 Blake Allen on x
    Biden ending his presidency really the only way he could: dithering and unable to actually make a crucial decision
  • @daveweigel David Weigel on x
    This has gotta be the first time an outgoing administration won 9-0 at SCOTUS to defend its policy and said “oh no.”