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Ex-Meta crypto chief David Marcus says there was no legal or regulatory angle for the government to kill its Libra project and β€œit was 100% a political kill”

For reasons you can guess at, debanking has been the topic du jour in my Twitter feed. Tyler Durden / ZeroHedge News : FinTech CEOs Expose How Feds Colluded In β€˜Debanking’ Schemes After Andreessen β€˜Opened The Floodgates’ On Rogan Owotunse Adebayo / Cryptopolitan : Janet Yellen killed Meta's Libra project, David Marcus alleges Kyle Baird / DL News : Facebook's Diem stablecoin payment chain killed through captive banks and intimidation, says former exec Jai Pratap / Cryptonews : Janet Yellen's Warning to Fed Chair Killed Meta's Crypto Project, Says David Marcus Bhushan Akolkar / CoinGape : Facebook Libra Was Killed Politically By Pressure from US Secretary Janet Yellen Nidhi Kolhapur / Coinpedia Fintech News : Political Witch-Hunt Killed Facebook Libra, Says David Marcus Bluesky: @tampawoman1965 : My prediction holds 2016 I said 5-10 years and they'll crash the global economy with crypto. Theo / @theopriestley.com : Here we go, Facebook will be resurrecting its crypto project, Libra, for another shot now the road is clear.Β  β€”Β  Crypto is a lynchpin for the billionaire β€˜network state’ plan.Β  β€”Β  www.vcinfodocs.com/el-salvador- ...Β  [embedded post] X: Jacob Silverman / @silvermanjacob : The β€œdebanking” stories from tech VCs and execs over the last few days all sound like: It happened to me. I was running a crypto startup selling unregistered securities in the middle of a bubble and risk-averse banks, with their stupid compliance departments, wouldn't bank me. Matt Janiga / @regulatorynerd : Funny how his original story was β€œThe Fed killed Libra” but his receipts are messaging letters from elected politicians. This underscores that Libra died from a bad roll out and shitty government relations led by Marcus. It was not β€œdebanking” as Marcus claimed in earlier posts. Parker / @pt : I like that we've rebranded AML as debanking. Language is fun! It'll be interesting to see what the new administration does, bc people are acting like it's over, but we haven't changed any laws yet and I think a lot of people in law enforcement still don't like ML very much. @iampaulgrewal : I was there and saw @davidmarcus stand up to this abomination for as long as anyone could. What is left unsaid: governments pounced on faux outrage over the farcical β€œscandal” of Cambridge Analytica to kneecap a threat to the banks they had under their thumb. Marc Andreessen / @pmarca : β€œDem leaders called Visa” 🫣 Noah Kulwin / @nkulw : Wow I can't believe the crypto guys and venture capitalists are lying through their teeth about debanking. This is a shock to me, a 31-year-old man who was also born yesterday Ryan Grim / @ryangrim : Yes this whole @pmarca argument is a sleight of hand. He's trying to make you think that crypto companies are having trouble working with real banks because the crypto founders are Trump supporters. The real problem they have is their businesses do crimes. So, to his credit, David Marcus / @davidmarcus : Here's the receipt of another dimension of the Libra kill job. Letters sent to all regulated entities that were members of the Libra Association. Stripe, Mastercard and Visa received this. Pay attention to the highlighted section threatening scrutiny on their entire business. [image] Ron Hammond / @ronwhammond : @davidmarcus ... I'm not denying the agency actions, but here's what I saw when I worked the Libra hearings on the Hill as a staffer in these very meetings: 1) Yes, Libra walked so USDC/UST/etc could run but Libra's rollout/lobbying was beyond abysmal on Capitol Hill. I'll never forget the day Bryan Kerr / @bryankerr : While I think that there is definitely overreach happening here, I also don't think Meta really considered the dollarization effect that Libra would have had globally. I think you would have seen emerging markets get torn in half. Maybe that's inevitable with Stablecoins. Jeff Roberts / @jeffjohnroberts : β€œ100% a political kill” According to Marcus, fatal blow came when Treasury Secretary Yellen told Fed Chair Powell to pull the plug I'm not convinced a Facebook backed stable coin would have been good policy β€” but, in terms of process, they deserved better than this Rohan Grey / @rohangrey : Lol this is some hilarious fake history β€œAddressed all concerns” - they had absolutely no idea what they were doing wrt the reserve, currency pegs etc. Violating separation of banking and commerce, had half the consortium pull out, etc. Billy Easley II / @billyez2 : Since we're telling stories: Meta revealed Libra to a bunch of DC thinktank staffers (like me!) a week before it went public and everyone in the room thought it was a terrible time to release this iirc Chris Painter / @chrispainteryup : In these (apparently second or third-hand) stories, what could β€œpolitical suicide” even be referring to? What is the political constituency that would be harmed by Libra, if many banks were already onboard? Why would a Fed chair have to worry about β€œpolitical suicide”? @discobanker : I know some regulators in several jurisdictions who still experience PTSD whenever Libra is mentioned so I am not totally convinced by the view that he thinks he had effectively addressed all the regulatory concerns. Anshu Sharma / @anshublog : We need laws for crypto. I believe the laws today are inadequate and outdated, and therefore crypto is in genuine legal limbo. I don't think private companies should be able to issue currencies but I believe people should be able to build everything else on blockchain. Tyler Winklevoss / @tyler : Can confirm. @Gemini worked closely with David and his team at @Meta to help launch Libra (fka Diem). We were on the one-yard line when Federal regulators murdered this project. It was all politics, no basis in law. Elon Musk / @elonmusk : @davidmarcus ... Wow Erik Voorhees / @erikvoorhees : people are feeling safe to start talking about the dark machinations of the state a blanket of gloom is being lifted Jon Evans / @rezendi : Huh. I wrote about Libra for TC when it launched, and was always puzzled by why and how it just fizzled out... Tommy Griffith / @tommygriffith : It is extremely concerning to learn how much nonsense was happening behind the scenes of tech legislation over the last 4 years. Thank you @pmarca and @davidmarcus for coming forward with these stories. David Z. Morris / @davidzmorris : Right at the very bottom of this lament, indirectly and in a way many people won't catch, Marcus admits that killing Libra was the right thing to do. Aditi Shekar / @aditishekar : I'm no crypto expert but it is incredibly frustrating to watch regulators dramatically slow and eventually destroy innovation in the name of protecting the user. These legacy systems are sometimes doing more harm than good and need to be updated. Balaji / @balajis : Everything David said is true. For example, here is the public letter sent to Visa, Mastercard, and Stripe threatening them with regulatory β€œscrutiny” to stop them from working with Libra. [image] Jai Massari / @jaimassari : Sunlight β˜€οΈon the demise of Libra shows a deeply discomforting approach to financial services regulation in the United States. @davidmarcus is right. Many of us cannot report what we saw and experiencedβ€”in my case for lawyerly reasons. I can say that there were many Trace Cohen / @trace_cohen : Of course the government stopped one of the biggest tech companies in the world from creating their own financial system that would try to supplant them and control global finance. Does anyone think Trump or any other govt would allow this if they couldn't regulate/control it? @jbrukh : Wild thread on the political assassination of Libra project. Kevin Weil / @kevinweil : One of the most eye opening experiences of my career. @lukeyoungblood : @davidmarcus ... This absolutely did happen. I was working at @Coinbase at the time and I remember how hard we were working in crypto engineering to add custody support for Libra/Diem because we knew it would be a huge stablecoin with @Meta behind it. But sadly it suffered a political death for [image] Marshall Beard / @beardmars : I'm glad @davidmarcus is sharing this. We were closely aligned with his team during this and saw first hand went they went through George Danezis / @gdanezis : At last here is a public explanation to colleagues and friends about what happened during my time with Novi / Diem / Libra . Thank you @davidmarcus for speaking up. Morgan Beller / @beller : At times, it really felt like we were living in If You Give a Mouse a Cookie but narrated in a mob-like tone Ajit Pai / @ajitpai : I don't know the particulars about this technology. But I do know that the combination of regulation (here, effective prohibition) through β€œraised eyebrow” and governmental embrace of the precautionary principle is deadly for innovation. This cannot remain the norm. H/T @pmarca Louis Rouanet / @louisrouanet : We often focus on how and how much should the private sector be regulated. Yet how and how much regulatory activities should themselves be regulated is equally, if not more, important. Regulate the regulators. Terry Angelos / @terryangelos : @davidmarcus ... I can confirm Dem leaders called Visa with similar messages. Our crypto team had to backtrack our support. There were plenty of critiques of how Libra might work but the fact that the experiment was not allowed to move forward was a huge step backwards for the USA. Tobi Lutke / @tobi : @davidmarcus ... Terrible story arc, but great leadership by you all the way through it Caitlin Long / @caitlinlong_ : @davidmarcus ... Geez @davidmarcus, that sounds familiar. Someday, like you just did, I'll be able to tell the real story of what the Fed did to @custodiabank, and how the Fed lied to achieve Biden/Warren political aims. There is so much corruption & I'm glad it's pouring out in public now. Matt Janiga / @regulatorynerd : Libra couldn't be rolled out as open source because it was a stable coin backed by actual FIAT currencies. Also, β€œjust do it” is definitely not the lesson to learn from Libra. The government always has the last gotcha on whether and when they want to enforce the law. @hellosvapnil : I was there for this, and it's true. The Feds unilaterally prevented Meta from launching a stablecoin wallet, and there was no law or due process to back it Brian Armstrong / @brian_armstrong : Makes sense - the government pressured the banks (again). I think the lesson from Libra is that these tools should be released as open source software, and to not ask for permission. Once they are out in the wild they can't be rolled back. This is why Bitcoin worked, and it's Matt Stoller / @matthewstoller : Libra was hated from the get-go by both sides as a poorly conceived, risky, and unfair scheme. The idea that there was some secret conspiracy to crush it is absurd. There were many public hearings where Libra proponents were embarrassed. [image] Nic Carter / @nic__carter : In my recent reporting on Silvergate, I considered another section on Libra/Diem but it would have added another 3000 words (Silvergate bought the Diem assets, and I believe this helped bring the eye of Sauron on them.). There is a long postscript to be written about the Steven Sinofsky / @stevesi : De-banking without authority to do so via indirect means. Noah Jessop / @njess : Little story from Libra. Proud to be an alum (and support David and the many alums building)

@davidmarcus David Marcus

Context & Ripple Effects

Libra entered public scrutiny through a Senate hearing on Facebook's proposed cryptocurrency, where key questions about the project remained unresolved. Later reporting on its collapse described a mix of policy concerns, design issues and Facebook's reputationβ€”not a single settled cause.

Marcus's account adds a more explicit political-pressure explanation to that record, including claimed warnings that may have discouraged major payment partners. It also follows the project’s termination and the departure of Diem and Novi co-creator David Marcus from Meta.

First-order effects

  • The allegations reopen the account of why Libra/Diem failed, placing claimed government pressure on banks and card networks alongside the previously reported operational and policy critiques.
  • They put Meta's former partners, federal authorities and the project’s critics at the center of a renewed dispute over whether regulatory scrutiny was ordinary oversight or informal exclusion.

Second-order effects

  • Stablecoin founders and their banking partners gain another high-profile example for arguing that access to regulated payment rails can determine a project’s viability before a product launches.
  • The competing accounts sharpen the burden on large platforms pursuing money-like products: technical design and compliance plans may not overcome political and trust concerns, as the later account of Libra's rise and fall also indicated.

Third-order effects

  • If comparable claims of informal pressure continue to surface, the policy fight around digital assets will increasingly concern how bank access and supervisory signals are governed, not only the legality of individual tokens.
  • The episode points to a persistent legitimacy gap for platform-led financial infrastructure: projects can face resistance from regulators, partners and the public simultaneously, though this allegation alone does not establish a general pattern.

The trend: Crypto policy is moving beyond token rules toward a contest over who controls access to the regulated banking and payments infrastructure needed to operate at scale.

Discussion

  • @tampawoman1965 @tampawoman1965 on bluesky
    My prediction holds 2016 I said 5-10 years and they'll crash the global economy with crypto.
  • @theopriestley.com Theo on bluesky
    Here we go, Facebook will be resurrecting its crypto project, Libra, for another shot now the road is clear.Β  β€”Β  Crypto is a lynchpin for the billionaire β€˜network state’ plan.Β  β€”Β  www.vcinfodocs.com/el-salvador- ...Β  [embedded post]
  • @silvermanjacob Jacob Silverman on x
    The β€œdebanking” stories from tech VCs and execs over the last few days all sound like: It happened to me. I was running a crypto startup selling unregistered securities in the middle of a bubble and risk-averse banks, with their stupid compliance departments, wouldn't bank me.
  • @regulatorynerd Matt Janiga on x
    Funny how his original story was β€œThe Fed killed Libra” but his receipts are messaging letters from elected politicians. This underscores that Libra died from a bad roll out and shitty government relations led by Marcus. It was not β€œdebanking” as Marcus claimed in earlier posts.
  • @pt Parker on x
    I like that we've rebranded AML as debanking. Language is fun! It'll be interesting to see what the new administration does, bc people are acting like it's over, but we haven't changed any laws yet and I think a lot of people in law enforcement still don't like ML very much.
  • @iampaulgrewal @iampaulgrewal on x
    I was there and saw @davidmarcus stand up to this abomination for as long as anyone could. What is left unsaid: governments pounced on faux outrage over the farcical β€œscandal” of Cambridge Analytica to kneecap a threat to the banks they had under their thumb.
  • @pmarca Marc Andreessen on x
    β€œDem leaders called Visa” 🫣
  • @nkulw Noah Kulwin on x
    Wow I can't believe the crypto guys and venture capitalists are lying through their teeth about debanking. This is a shock to me, a 31-year-old man who was also born yesterday
  • @ryangrim Ryan Grim on x
    Yes this whole @pmarca argument is a sleight of hand. He's trying to make you think that crypto companies are having trouble working with real banks because the crypto founders are Trump supporters. The real problem they have is their businesses do crimes. So, to his credit,
  • @davidmarcus David Marcus on x
    Here's the receipt of another dimension of the Libra kill job. Letters sent to all regulated entities that were members of the Libra Association. Stripe, Mastercard and Visa received this. Pay attention to the highlighted section threatening scrutiny on their entire business. [im…
  • @ronwhammond Ron Hammond on x
    @davidmarcus ... I'm not denying the agency actions, but here's what I saw when I worked the Libra hearings on the Hill as a staffer in these very meetings: 1) Yes, Libra walked so USDC/UST/etc could run but Libra's rollout/lobbying was beyond abysmal on Capitol Hill. I'll never …
  • @bryankerr Bryan Kerr on x
    While I think that there is definitely overreach happening here, I also don't think Meta really considered the dollarization effect that Libra would have had globally. I think you would have seen emerging markets get torn in half. Maybe that's inevitable with Stablecoins.
  • @jeffjohnroberts Jeff Roberts on x
    β€œ100% a political kill” According to Marcus, fatal blow came when Treasury Secretary Yellen told Fed Chair Powell to pull the plug I'm not convinced a Facebook backed stable coin would have been good policy β€” but, in terms of process, they deserved better than this
  • @rohangrey Rohan Grey on x
    Lol this is some hilarious fake history β€œAddressed all concerns” - they had absolutely no idea what they were doing wrt the reserve, currency pegs etc. Violating separation of banking and commerce, had half the consortium pull out, etc.
  • @billyez2 Billy Easley II on x
    Since we're telling stories: Meta revealed Libra to a bunch of DC thinktank staffers (like me!) a week before it went public and everyone in the room thought it was a terrible time to release this iirc
  • @chrispainteryup Chris Painter on x
    In these (apparently second or third-hand) stories, what could β€œpolitical suicide” even be referring to? What is the political constituency that would be harmed by Libra, if many banks were already onboard? Why would a Fed chair have to worry about β€œpolitical suicide”?
  • @discobanker @discobanker on x
    I know some regulators in several jurisdictions who still experience PTSD whenever Libra is mentioned so I am not totally convinced by the view that he thinks he had effectively addressed all the regulatory concerns.
  • @anshublog Anshu Sharma on x
    We need laws for crypto. I believe the laws today are inadequate and outdated, and therefore crypto is in genuine legal limbo. I don't think private companies should be able to issue currencies but I believe people should be able to build everything else on blockchain.
  • @tyler Tyler Winklevoss on x
    Can confirm. @Gemini worked closely with David and his team at @Meta to help launch Libra (fka Diem). We were on the one-yard line when Federal regulators murdered this project. It was all politics, no basis in law.
  • @elonmusk Elon Musk on x
    @davidmarcus ... Wow
  • @erikvoorhees Erik Voorhees on x
    people are feeling safe to start talking about the dark machinations of the state a blanket of gloom is being lifted
  • @rezendi Jon Evans on x
    Huh. I wrote about Libra for TC when it launched, and was always puzzled by why and how it just fizzled out...
  • @tommygriffith Tommy Griffith on x
    It is extremely concerning to learn how much nonsense was happening behind the scenes of tech legislation over the last 4 years. Thank you @pmarca and @davidmarcus for coming forward with these stories.
  • @davidzmorris David Z. Morris on x
    Right at the very bottom of this lament, indirectly and in a way many people won't catch, Marcus admits that killing Libra was the right thing to do.
  • @aditishekar Aditi Shekar on x
    I'm no crypto expert but it is incredibly frustrating to watch regulators dramatically slow and eventually destroy innovation in the name of protecting the user. These legacy systems are sometimes doing more harm than good and need to be updated.
  • @balajis Balaji on x
    Everything David said is true. For example, here is the public letter sent to Visa, Mastercard, and Stripe threatening them with regulatory β€œscrutiny” to stop them from working with Libra. [image]
  • @jaimassari Jai Massari on x
    Sunlight β˜€οΈon the demise of Libra shows a deeply discomforting approach to financial services regulation in the United States. @davidmarcus is right. Many of us cannot report what we saw and experiencedβ€”in my case for lawyerly reasons. I can say that there were many
  • @trace_cohen Trace Cohen on x
    Of course the government stopped one of the biggest tech companies in the world from creating their own financial system that would try to supplant them and control global finance. Does anyone think Trump or any other govt would allow this if they couldn't regulate/control it?
  • @jbrukh @jbrukh on x
    Wild thread on the political assassination of Libra project.
  • @kevinweil Kevin Weil on x
    One of the most eye opening experiences of my career.
  • @lukeyoungblood @lukeyoungblood on x
    @davidmarcus ... This absolutely did happen. I was working at @Coinbase at the time and I remember how hard we were working in crypto engineering to add custody support for Libra/Diem because we knew it would be a huge stablecoin with @Meta behind it. But sadly it suffered a poli…
  • @beardmars Marshall Beard on x
    I'm glad @davidmarcus is sharing this. We were closely aligned with his team during this and saw first hand went they went through
  • @gdanezis George Danezis on x
    At last here is a public explanation to colleagues and friends about what happened during my time with Novi / Diem / Libra . Thank you @davidmarcus for speaking up.
  • @beller Morgan Beller on x
    At times, it really felt like we were living in If You Give a Mouse a Cookie but narrated in a mob-like tone
  • @ajitpai Ajit Pai on x
    I don't know the particulars about this technology. But I do know that the combination of regulation (here, effective prohibition) through β€œraised eyebrow” and governmental embrace of the precautionary principle is deadly for innovation. This cannot remain the norm. H/T @pmarca
  • @louisrouanet Louis Rouanet on x
    We often focus on how and how much should the private sector be regulated. Yet how and how much regulatory activities should themselves be regulated is equally, if not more, important. Regulate the regulators.
  • @terryangelos Terry Angelos on x
    @davidmarcus ... I can confirm Dem leaders called Visa with similar messages. Our crypto team had to backtrack our support. There were plenty of critiques of how Libra might work but the fact that the experiment was not allowed to move forward was a huge step backwards for the US…
  • @tobi Tobi Lutke on x
    @davidmarcus ... Terrible story arc, but great leadership by you all the way through it
  • @caitlinlong_ Caitlin Long on x
    @davidmarcus ... Geez @davidmarcus, that sounds familiar. Someday, like you just did, I'll be able to tell the real story of what the Fed did to @custodiabank, and how the Fed lied to achieve Biden/Warren political aims. There is so much corruption & I'm glad it's pouring out in …
  • @regulatorynerd Matt Janiga on x
    Libra couldn't be rolled out as open source because it was a stable coin backed by actual FIAT currencies. Also, β€œjust do it” is definitely not the lesson to learn from Libra. The government always has the last gotcha on whether and when they want to enforce the law.
  • @hellosvapnil @hellosvapnil on x
    I was there for this, and it's true. The Feds unilaterally prevented Meta from launching a stablecoin wallet, and there was no law or due process to back it
  • @brian_armstrong Brian Armstrong on x
    Makes sense - the government pressured the banks (again). I think the lesson from Libra is that these tools should be released as open source software, and to not ask for permission. Once they are out in the wild they can't be rolled back. This is why Bitcoin worked, and it's
  • @matthewstoller Matt Stoller on x
    Libra was hated from the get-go by both sides as a poorly conceived, risky, and unfair scheme. The idea that there was some secret conspiracy to crush it is absurd. There were many public hearings where Libra proponents were embarrassed. [image]
  • @nic__carter Nic Carter on x
    In my recent reporting on Silvergate, I considered another section on Libra/Diem but it would have added another 3000 words (Silvergate bought the Diem assets, and I believe this helped bring the eye of Sauron on them.). There is a long postscript to be written about the
  • @stevesi Steven Sinofsky on x
    De-banking without authority to do so via indirect means.
  • @njess Noah Jessop on x
    Little story from Libra. Proud to be an alum (and support David and the many alums building)