Memos: OpenAI execs reject Musk's claims, say OpenAI is committed to benefiting humanity and has yet to achieve AGI; Altman says the “attacks will keep coming”
CEO Sam Altman sent a follow-up message, echoing Kwon's statements and acknowledging that this year is shaping up to be a hard one for the company.
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@chris
Chris Messina
on threads
I presume Musk will convert X.ai into non-profit open source company to demonstrate the outcome he's seeking? https://www.theverge.com/...
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@lorakolodny
Lora Kolodny
on threads
open source Tesla Bot (Optimus) and all FSD code too?
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@techemails
@techemails
on threads
Sam Altman emails Elon Musk June 24, 2015
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@reckless1280
Nilay Patel
on threads
“You breached a contract that actually is in another contract” is usually simplified to “you breached a contract” - but I don't think Elon actually signed these articles of incorporation so he can't sue over them
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r/EnoughMuskSpam
r
on reddit
Elmo's legal case against OpenAI is hilariously bad
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@keubikooriginal
@keubikooriginal
on threads
2/2 also seems that OpenAI is a Delaware corp. I wouldn't be surprised to see OpenAI try to change the venue to the jurisdiction that Musk just dropped a steaming turd on.
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@lou1sgray
Louis Gray
on threads
This is like suing your ex because she remodeled the house after your divorce. https://www.wired.com/...
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@kalihays1
Kali Hays
on threads
Idk it's funny that OpenAI invested in an ai robotics company and a day later Elon Musk (who loves to show off his Tesla 'ai robot') decided it was time to sue Sam Altman for something
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@tomwarrenuk
Tom Warren
on threads
Elon Musk is suing OpenAI for abandoning its mission to benefit humanity. Musk alleges that OpenAI's partnership with Microsoft has transformed the organization “into a closed-source de facto subsidiary” of Microsoft https://www.theverge.com/...
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@reckless1280
Nilay Patel
on threads
Elon Musk suing OpenAI for breaching a contract that appears to only exist in ummmm a different contract and some emails is very good
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@pauloflaherty
Paul O'Flaherty
on threads
I'm not an AI expert, I have a passive interest of late, but if OpenAI had an AGI operating above human levels, I'm not sure that's something they would want to keep, or could have kept under wraps. Right? Can smarter peeps than me weigh in? AI Threads https://www.theguardian.…
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@yonetteajoseph
Yonette Joseph
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Musk sued OpenAI and its chief executive, Sam Altman, accusing them of breaching a contract by prioritizing profit and commercial interests in developing AI over the public good. Musk, who helped create OpenAI with Altman and others in 2015 …
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@tenured_radical
Claire Potter
on threads
We are at Twilight Zone levels of gaslighting now. https://www.nytimes.com/...
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@stefancarter66
Stefan Carter
on threads
Elon Musk sues OpenAI for failing to deliver on its original mission. But is he any better? Let's dig into all the claims he's made - where are those fully self-driving (FSD) cars he promised years ago? That's just one example.
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@hmautomate
@hmautomate
on threads
Understanding the Recent OpenAI Lawsuit: Explained Simply .Here it is ! - OpenAI was initially founded as a non-profit with the intention of publishing all its research as open source. - Elon Musk, one of the co-founders, was later ousted by Sam Altman, and the company shifted …
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@reksveks
Rekesh Vekariya
on threads
The Musk vs OpenAI lawsuit just seems like a way for Musk to spread some misinformation about his AI credentials. I suspect he is looking for headlines off some of his claims. Tech Threads
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@karaswisher
Kara Swisher
on threads
For those who aren't familiar with the Silicon Valley soap opera, this is a crossover. btaylor was the dude who was chair of Twitter, which he shoved down Elon Musk's throat after the always irritated (and irritating) billionaire tried to squirrel out of the deal. He's now Ope…
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@kfeinleib
Ken Feinleib
on threads
Elon Musk is suing OpenAI for “putting power and profits over humanity.” I'm sure this has nothing to do with his own competing AI company, xAI, which will surely be 100% altruistic. And the concern for humanity might be more convincing were he a human being.
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@firerock31
Andy Cheng
on threads
Breaking News: Elon Musk sues OpenAI for allegedly breaching an agreement to develop artificial general intelligence (AGI) for the benefit of humanity, not profits. Musk asks for the court to order OpenAI to revert back to open source, to prevent OpenAI, Altman, Brockman and Mic…
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@nixcraft
@nixcraft
on threads
Oh my. Elon Musk is suing OpenAI which currently getting majority of its funding from Microsoft. 😂
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@tleighk.bsky.social
@tleighk.bsky.social
on bluesky
Have you heard much about Ilya recently?
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@euphemistic.bsky.social
@euphemistic.bsky.social
on bluesky
Stupid lawsuits seem to be epidemic these days
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@drewstephenson.bsky.social
@drewstephenson.bsky.social
on bluesky
He does like stupid lawsuits.
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@sama
Sam Altman
on x
@elonmusk anytime 🫡
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@carnage4life
Dare Obasanjo
on x
In reading Sam Altman's original emails to Elon Musk about founding OpenAI, I'm struck by the idea that from the start AI researchers would get significant financial upside. Becoming a for-profit to compete with Google's compensation and resources was inevitable.
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@shiringhaffary
Shirin Ghaffary
on x
Reading through the Elon-OpenAI lawsuit in more detail: Interesting that part of what the suit discusses is OpenAI's rumored “Q*” breakthrough, demanding that OpenAI should make that research publicly available [image]
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@davemcclure
Dave McClure
on x
why does this feel like a live-action AI-generated remake of Ender's Game... except i can't tell which side is Ender and which is Peter. 🤔🤷🏻♂️🚀🤖👾 [image]
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@anammostarac
Ana Mostarac
on x
I was just at Starbucks in SF ordering an iced latte. The cashier asked if I would like to “round up” my purchase to support a local non-profit. The non-profit was OpenAI.
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@ianbremmer
Ian Bremmer
on x
the bored housebros of silicon valley
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@binarybits
Timothy B. Lee
on x
It's weird that he says 2016 rather than 2015, the year OpenAi was founded. I don't see any mention of additional 2015 donations in the lawsuit.
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@binarybits
Timothy B. Lee
on x
Elon Musk has previously been reported as giving $100 million to OpenAI, but Elon's lawsuit says he gave more than $44 million between 2016 and 2020. I would expect Musk to give the biggest number he could here, which makes me think the $100 million number might be exaggerated?
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@kepano
@kepano
on x
now that Google, Meta, Mistral, etc, all have great open source models, it seems rather untenable for OpenAI to 1. keep “open” in the name, 2. stay closed source, 3. pretend to be a non-profit at least one of those things must go, right? [image]
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@maddierenbarger
Madeline Renbarger
on x
New: @EricNewcomer digs into the the Musk/Altman lawsuit, plus I explore what might be a crack in Google Search's armor in regards to AI. https://www.newcomer.co/...
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@scobleizer
Robert Scoble
on x
We all know OpenAI's governance is highly unusual.
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@andrewrsorkin
Andrew Ross Sorkin
on x
In 2015, I interviewed @elonmusk and @sama together on stage, in part, about AI just as @OpenAI was being formed. Here's how they thought about AI then: [video]
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@danprimack
Dan Primack
on x
Worth re-reading today, by @felixsalmon: How a Silicon Valley nonprofit became worth billions https://www.axios.com/...
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@danprimack
Dan Primack
on x
OpenAI is having a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad week. https://www.axios.com/... [image]
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@bindureddy
Bindu Reddy
on x
Elon just sued OpenAI for breach of contract and fiduciary duty! He is claiming that OpenAI violated terms by becoming a closed source for profit corporation and is demanding that they open source their AI. Don't know if it will stand up in a legal court but it will definitely …
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@growing_daniel
Daniel
on x
Suing OpenAI is so complicated damn [image]
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@jason_kint
Jason Kint
on x
A day after getting trounced in court attempting to chill Center for Countering Digital Hate, Musk is now playing “humanity” card suing OpenAI. Not over IP theft but governance and open source head fake. grok must not be going so well? Have at it boys. https://www.theguardian.com…
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@ericnewcomer
Eric Newcomer
on x
First, Twitter now OpenAI. Bret Taylor will be the foremost expert in facing off with Elon Musk
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@andrewcurran_
Andrew Curran
on x
Interesting, he's asking for judicial determination on the argument that GPT-4, Q*, and 'next generation LLM's currently in development' constitute AGI. We're going to need one hell of a jury. [image]
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@fakepsyho
@fakepsyho
on x
Musk is suing OpenAI and since I'm having a lazy morning, I decided to look at it. I won't lie, I had a different idea of what's inside the complaint. [image]
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@luizajarovsky
Luiza Jarovsky
on x
🚨BREAKING: ANOTHER lawsuit against @OpenAI - will they survive intact? @elonmusk has just filed a lawsuit against @sama, @gdb & OpenAI with juicy legal arguments. If you work in AI, you can't miss it. READ THIS: My general comment here is that from a legal perspective, Musk's... …
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@carnage4life
Dare Obasanjo
on x
Elon Musk is suing Sam Altman and others for violating its founding agreement to be a non-profit which develops AI for the benefit of humanity to counter balance Google and is now a for-profit virtual subsidiary of Microsoft. He donated over $44M to it from 2016 to 2020. [image]
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@8teapi
@8teapi
on x
A moment of silence for Microsoft's law firm that would have issued a legal opinion on the validity of this deal prior to the investment.
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@basedbeffjezos
@basedbeffjezos
on x
You know AGI is finally here when the lawsuits start flying
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@shakeelhashim
Shakeel
on x
This strongly suggests Elon doesn't take AI safety very seriously, IMO
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@cromwellian
@cromwellian
on x
Somehow this doesn't feel like it's for the “good of humanity”, it feels like a personal vendetta. If Musk had still been in charge of OpenAI, I don't think he'd have a problem with secrets, trusting himself to be the savior.
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@andrewcurran_
Andrew Curran
on x
Elon Musk has filed a lawsuit against OpenAI for breach of contract, breach of fiduciary duty and unfair business practices, and is asking for OpenAI to revert back to open source, and to share all it's research for the benefit of humanity. https://www.courthousenews.com/ ... [im…
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@zachtratar
Zach Tratar
on x
Oh boy. https://www.courthousenews.com/ ... This is about to get very interesting and complicated. I'm wondering what kind of actual weight a “founding agreement” has? Surely OpenAI must have known this would happen when it pivoted towards a profit-oriented model.
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@alexandrosm
@alexandrosm
on x
This was a heavy card that was going to be played at some point. Elon has a claim to openAI's future and now we find out if it can be cashed for something. https://www.courthousenews.com/ ... H/t @StephenPiment
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@xdaily
@xdaily
on x
BREAKING: Elon Musk has filed a lawsuit against Open AI and Sam Altman for breach of contract. The lawsuit accuses Altman et al with having betrayed an agreement from Open AI's founding to remain as a non-profit company. [image]
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on reddit
Interesting Details about Elon Musk's lawsuit against 8 OpenAI companies
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