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Many redditors say they are not enthusiastic about Reddit's IPO and expect CEO Steve Huffman to run the site into the ground while trying to make it profitable

There's the mention of r/WallStreetBets.  (Five mentions in total, actually.)  There's the stockpile it's amassed of Bitcoin and Ethereum.

The Verge Elizabeth Lopatto

Context & Ripple Effects

Reddit's listing preparations put an unusual spotlight on the people who supply much of the platform's value: its users and volunteer moderators. The company had already proposed letting selected moderators and high-karma users buy IPO shares, while its filing underscored reliance on 60,000 active daily moderators.

That makes the negative reaction more than a retail-investor story. It exposes the tension between turning Reddit into a more durable business and maintaining consent from the communities whose participation and moderation make the service usable.

First-order effects

  • Reddit enters its IPO process with a visible trust problem among part of its core community, raising the reputational stakes of monetization decisions under Steve Huffman.
  • The proposed user-share allocation becomes a limited alignment tool, but it does not resolve concerns about how profit-seeking changes may affect community autonomy or moderation.

Second-order effects

  • Investors must assess community retention and moderator cooperation as operating risks, not merely as engagement metrics; Reddit's own filing has made its dependence on volunteer labor unusually salient.
  • Reddit faces pressure to show that new revenue efforts can coexist with stable community participation, particularly while related coverage points to dependence on Google and uneven user-growth prospects.

Third-order effects

  • If public-market demands repeatedly conflict with contributor-led governance, platforms built on unpaid or semi-voluntary labor may need more formal ways to share economic upside or decision-making authority.
  • The broader test is whether community platforms can monetize without converting their most committed users from a source of network effects into an organized constraint on strategy.

The trend: Community-governed platforms are increasingly being forced to reconcile investor-led monetization with the agency of the contributors who create their core value.

Discussion

  • @trevorcroker Trevor Croker on threads
    Ever since Reddit's CEO called moderators “the landed gentry”, I can't help but compare the companies actions within the same lens.  Giving moderators a chance to buy shares?  Knighthood in exchange for squashing peasant revolts.  Selling user data to Google for $60M? …
  • @aeromunch Jason Harris on threads
    So Reddit reported losses of $90M last year and I wondered where the hell all the money went since it's not apparent in the product at all.  Here's the answer lmao 100% of their losses could have been covered by cutting CEO pay but of course that's impossible.
  • @barbarosozturk Barbaros Ozturk on threads
    Now that Google announced that it will acquire the licensed data from Reddit to train, it would be fascinating to see the LLM's take on how the GameStop frenzy evolved.  Having access to the timeline and the comments of the users, I wonder if the model will understand how such an…
  • @mike_isaac Mike Isaac on threads
    i certainly won't argue against questioning whether giving a ceo $193mm in options is overpaying them, but this headline and subsequent commentary surrounding it misunderstand how options work.  they have not vested and do not count against the company's current quarterly P&L unt…
  • @dangillmor@mastodon.social Dan Gillmor on mastodon
    It's my fervent hope that the Reddit IPO crashes and burns, for all kinds of reasons.  —  At the top is the company's fundamental contempt for its users, especially the people who've given countless hours of their time to make it useful.  —  https://www.theverge.com/...
  • @eshear Emmett Shear on x
    1/ The allocation for reddit's power users is so cool. I hope ppl realize it's a gift, bc usually those are fought over by insiders like the bank's favored clients or institutional investors. Reddit is giving away a free option, and that has real value.
  • @eshear Emmett Shear on x
    3/ Everyone is focused on revenue and profit, but for social media what really matters is daily uniques (DAUq in the S-1). On page 97 we finally get to the good stuff. The short version: consistent +20% YOY growth. At reddit's size, that's very strong. [image]
  • @eshear Emmett Shear on x
    2 cont/ Careful readers will notice a footnote, referring you to the Executive and Director comp section ... which says the grants vest over ~10 years. So that turns $192M equity comp into ~$19.2M per year. To miss something this basic is ... well, it's embarrassing. [image]
  • @eshear Emmett Shear on x
    4/ There's a dip in DAUq growth from early 21 to late 22...if I had to guess, this is the hangover from Reddit's rapid growth during the COVID lockdowns. That growth was partially due to pulling forward growth that would have happened a year later. (chart from Statista not S-1) […
  • @levie Aaron Levie on x
    People's understanding of business is funny. Being *unprofitable* is a far faster way to have a site run into the ground. [image]
  • @jonahlupton Jonah Lupton on x
    0% chance I go anywhere near the Reddit IPO after seeing this nonsense. Clearly these unprofitable companies have learned NOTHING from the past few years. This is just $SNAP all over again. I suspect this IPO will be a disaster and the company will have nobody to blame but...
  • @therealdavey2 Davey on x
    The Reddit CEO and CFO were paid a combined $285 million in 2023, including stock options. Ok then. [image]
  • @sdw Sebastiaan de With on x
    hi folks I'm the reddit ceo just looking for a quick budget check, we're going to ipo soon but we're still losing money somehow servers 20 million payroll 60 million office rent 5 million my comp is 193 million someone please help me budget my company. my website is dying
  • @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x
    Reddit, an unprofitable social media site which lost $90M last year and may IPO at $5B despite being valued at $10B at its last funding round, has paid its CEO in stock worth $193M. This is more than Tim Cook and Satya Nadella got paid in 2023 combined. [image]
  • r/technology r on reddit
    A lot of Redditors hate the Reddit IPO |  Reddit warned us that its users were a risk factor, and boy do they sound excited about shorting its stock.