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Mark Zuckerberg says Meta is testing making posts from Threads accounts “available on Mastodon and other services that use the ActivityPub protocol”

I've been as big a Facebook critic as anybody, but this is a good thing.  And reflects that we're entering a new era of the open web, with a chance for things to be more interesting again. Brian Penny / @thebrianpenny : I don't think the fediverse will ever be what everyone hopes.  What I see is Meta turning on a one-way hose to broadcast what we do here elsewhere.  Basically one more platform to syndicate our threads.  That is good for Threads but not Mastodon.  I can't post here from Mastodon. … Jon Porter / @jonporteruk : Because the second you can view Threads posts via another ActivityPub platform is the second (as I understand it) you can view Threads posts via another ActivityPub client.  So even if Mosseri and co. have no interest in optimizing Threads to be a real-time news platform, app developers can build the functionality to make that happen Jon Porter / @jonporteruk : I have to admit I care less about the whole “seeing Mastodon posts on Threads” bit, and more about what federation means for the possibility of effectively sneaking third-party Threads clients in the backdoor Karissa / @karissabe : Meta testing ActivityPub integration is the latest sign of growing momentum for decentralized social media over the last year.  (I've reached out to Meta to see if they will offer more than two sentences about how this will work.) @jasontheknight : Sooo.... if Threads goes full Mastodon on us with ActivityPub, how do they (eventually) make money out of us?  I mean, we all know ads are coming, and that's cool, I guess.  But, I'm assuming someone viewing a federated Threads feed doesn't get ads?  Or do they?  (I'm assuming it's trivial to inject additional content into federated feeds if they want to).  If not, what's in it for Meta?  Do they just assume that most people will use Threads because it's convenient? Michael Masnick / @mmasnick : Happy to see Meta sticking to its plan of integrating with ActivityPub and (so far...?) looking to do so in a careful, thoughtful way that doesn't completely overwhelm the fediverse.  There are some on ActivityPub who are concerned about this, but in the long run, I think it's a good thing. Aaron Ross Powell / @aaronrosspowell : Bluesky had probably already lost the race to become the next big thing, but with Threads now actually testing ActivityPub integration, there's a decent chance full Threads federation, or something close enough to it, rolls out before Bluesky federates, and that'll really be the ballgame. Mark Davis / @m4rk : The prospect of ActivityPub integration and proper federation was a massive part of my enthusiasm for Threads, well before joining the team.  Extremely excited for this first step along the path.  Congrats to all the folks who've helped make this a reality 👏 Micah Pollak / @micah.pollak : This is very exciting.  I really like Mastodon/ActivityPub.  Probably more than Threads.  The one thing it's missing is enough people.  Threads connecting up with ActivityPub is going to be a game changer for both Threads and Mastodon! Matt Navarra / @mattnavarra : Meta starts testing Threads integration with ActivityPub Threads has started testing a feature to show Threads posts on Mastodon and other ActivityPub protocol-supported networks.  “Making Threads interoperable will give people more choice over how they interact and it will help content reach more people. … Salvador Rodriguez / @salrodriguez : When Meta launched Threads in July, the company said it would plug it into the ActivityPub protocol, making it interoperable with other social networks.  Today, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced that the company has begun testing that exact thing. … Mark Zuckerberg / @zuck : Starting a test where posts from Threads accounts will be available on Mastodon and other services that use the ActivityPub protocol.  Making Threads interoperable will give people more choice over how they interact and it will help content reach more people.  I'm pretty optimistic about this. Mastodon: Eugen Rochko / @Gargron@mastodon.social : Make no mistake, this is huge for Mastodon.  Currently people have to choose between X, Mastodon, and Threads, and network effects play a dominant role in that choice.  If we can say, you can access all the folks that went to Threads from a Mastodon account, that makes it a far more attractive option given all of its other perks 😉 Kevin Beaumont / @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social : Threads Fediverse integration has started to roll, here's me following @mosseri from this Mastodon account.  👋  —  [images] @mastodonmigration@mastodon.online : So, the latest news is Threads says they are planning to start testing some kind of ability to see Threads posts on Mastodon (and other Fediverse apps), but you won't be able to comment, and Threads users won't be able to see any Fediverse content. … Tristan Louis / @TNLNYC@mastodon.social : #Threads coming to the #Fediverse reminds me of #AOL opening up to the Web: A move democratizing a technology (The web; #activitypub ) but also with some challenges to established norms as the masses arrive. Tim Bray / @timbray@cosocial.ca : After Threads implements some mixture of AP subset + Mastodon extras, that probably becomes the de-facto Universal Federation Protocol/API, nobody will want to ship a new piece of software that doesn't Just Work with Masto & Threads. @jerry@infosec.exchange : Super excited excited to watch the fediverse start eating itself again over Threads :blobsadleft: Joe Ortiz / @joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org : Once again, I and I'm sure a LOT of people around here don't trust Meta/FB and neither should you. https://techcrunch.com/...  It's very likely (to me) that Meta/FB is going to sneak in and start scraping up everything for ads and AI training.  In other words, they're going to Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish the Fediverse. … @wall0159@aus.social : @danyork @Techmeme  —  Frankly, I think it's naive to think that Meta are approaching this with good intentions.  Their goal is likely to envelop/consume the Fediverse @b3ll@mastodon.social : @stroughtonsmith I'm really hoping it's decent integration.  Worried for a future where it's supported but then kinda nerfed and then they push people to use Threads instead, and then it just sucks Darren Buck / @bikepedantic@transportation.social : I distrust meta so so deeply... yet being able to interact with the two or three friends i know who use Threads from here is undeniably exciting. https://techcrunch.com/... Steve Troughton-Smith / @stroughtonsmith … : Threads fills in a whole bunch of the gaps that Mastodon has, and Mastodon gets the rich third party clients (and iPad, Mac clients) that Threads likely never will.  With seamless interop, it really is the best of both worlds.  For many people, it will finally close the loop @Chancerubbage@mastodon.social : @Techmeme @WarnerCrocker if Fediverse decides to allow it.  —  I'm still uncertain if it allows Meta to snake in and start hovering up everything for ad data and AI training.  As are others more familiar with federation. Dan York / @danyork@mastodon.social : It's great to see that #Threads is getting serious about offering #ActivityPub integration so that communication can happen with #Mastodon and the broader #Fediverse.  We NEED open, interoperable protocols that for this kind of communication and interaction.  It's a key way to unlock the walled gardens that control so much of messaging.  And it's great to see a company the size of Meta getting behind ActivityPub.  Kudos to the teams involved. Kevin Marks / @KevinMarks@xoxo.zone : @carnage4life dogfooding it on a private instance?  Or is mas.to receiving AP traffic from threads.net? David Carroll / @profcarroll@federate.social : @tchambers When they say you “can't post to Threads” do you think they really mean that a Threads user would have to boost a Mastodon post into the Threads instance?  So more just a misunderstanding of how federation works? Steve Troughton-Smith / @stroughtonsmith … : Presumably we'll see threads.net/api/v2/instance light up at some point? Tim Chambers / @tchambers@indieweb.social : @MichaelBishop @fediversenews  —  Fortunately no need to trust anyone.  This plan remains my best thinking on how to both welcome the Fediverse to such partners but also protect it. https://www.timothychambers.net/ ... Evan Prodromou / @evan@cosocial.ca : @tchambers @fediversenews so, Webfinger isn't working yet.  Any other way to get to Threads Actor objects?  I'd love to get this party started. Tim Chambers / @tchambers@indieweb.social : Hard to overstate how important this news is.  #Threads  —  https://www.theverge.com/...  cc: @fediversenews @paul@tapbots.social : The Threadsies are coming!  The Threadsies are coming!  —  https://www.threads.net/... Dare Obasanjo / @carnage4life@mas.to : So much for people saying Threads won't support Fediverse integration.  I've been dogfooding the feature since before the service launched and the team has 100% been planning to support interoperability with Mastodon from day one.  —  Kudos to all the folks on the Threads team who've been working on this. …

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Discussion

  • The Verge The Verge on mastodon
    Threads is officially starting to test ActivityPub integration
  • 9to5Mac Chance Miller on mastodon
    Threads starts testing ActivityPub support for integration with Mastodon and more
  • The Hindu The Hindu on mastodon
    Threads to test making posts visible on Mastodon in decentralisation drive
  • PhoneArena Sebastian Pier on mastodon
    Threads testing an expansion to Mastodon and other social media platforms
  • SamMobile Asif Iqbal Shaik on mastodon
    Threads is testing compatibility with other ActivityPub services like Mastodon
  • Engadget Karissa Bell on mastodon
    Meta tests making Threads posts available on Mastodon and other fediverse apps
  • @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on threads
    I'm seeing multiple reports across Threads and Mastodon that people are now able to follow @mosseri, @christophersu and @0xjessel from the Fediverse.  Super happy to see Threads launch in Europe and ship the beginnings of Fediverse integration before the year was up. …
  • @mosseri Adam Mosseri on threads
    Give us time.  We're starting with the ability to follow threads users from activitypub clients, but we will get to the ability to follow accounts from activitypub servers on threads as well
  • @quillmatiq Anuj Ahooja on threads
    One thing I want to call out about @threads first phase in becoming Fediverse Threads: The fact that Mastodon users can follow Threads users but Threads users can't follow them back means that Meta gave Mastodon a huge advantage...There were a lot of naysayers about Threads, Acti…
  • @tomwarrenuk Tom Warren on threads
    I'm super glad Meta followed through with the Fediverse promises.  Now I'm hoping for some third-party Threads clients 🙏
  • @corybe Cory Bergman on threads
    From a sales perspective, even if the ads only flow to Threads proper, it's still a powerful advertiser story to combine FB, IG and Threads in a single buy.  Also: they can display Threads with ads in FB and IG, too.
  • @joenandez Joe Fernandez on threads
    I think their goal has to be to make Threads the best client to consume/create content.  Compete on the quality of the experience, not network lock in.  Which is of course great for customers.  Then they can pull in ads, offer premium features at a price, do sponsored tags/posts,…
  • @chris Chris Messina on threads
    What's in it for them in an insurance policy against being in violation of the DMA in Europe as they launch Threads in Europe. https://arc.net/...
  • @anildash Anil Dash on threads
    Credit where it's due — I've been as big a Facebook critic as anybody, but this is a good thing.  And reflects that we're entering a new era of the open web, with a chance for things to be more interesting again.
  • @thebrianpenny Brian Penny on threads
    I don't think the fediverse will ever be what everyone hopes.  What I see is Meta turning on a one-way hose to broadcast what we do here elsewhere.  Basically one more platform to syndicate our threads.  That is good for Threads but not Mastodon.  I can't post here from Mastodon.…
  • @jonporteruk Jon Porter on threads
    Because the second you can view Threads posts via another ActivityPub platform is the second (as I understand it) you can view Threads posts via another ActivityPub client.  So even if Mosseri and co. have no interest in optimizing Threads to be a real-time news platform, app dev…
  • @jonporteruk Jon Porter on threads
    I have to admit I care less about the whole “seeing Mastodon posts on Threads” bit, and more about what federation means for the possibility of effectively sneaking third-party Threads clients in the backdoor
  • @karissabe Karissa on threads
    Meta testing ActivityPub integration is the latest sign of growing momentum for decentralized social media over the last year.  (I've reached out to Meta to see if they will offer more than two sentences about how this will work.)
  • @jasontheknight @jasontheknight on threads
    Sooo.... if Threads goes full Mastodon on us with ActivityPub, how do they (eventually) make money out of us?  I mean, we all know ads are coming, and that's cool, I guess.  But, I'm assuming someone viewing a federated Threads feed doesn't get ads?  Or do they?  (I'm assuming it…
  • @mmasnick Michael Masnick on threads
    Happy to see Meta sticking to its plan of integrating with ActivityPub and (so far...?) looking to do so in a careful, thoughtful way that doesn't completely overwhelm the fediverse.  There are some on ActivityPub who are concerned about this, but in the long run, I think it's a …
  • @aaronrosspowell Aaron Ross Powell on threads
    Bluesky had probably already lost the race to become the next big thing, but with Threads now actually testing ActivityPub integration, there's a decent chance full Threads federation, or something close enough to it, rolls out before Bluesky federates, and that'll really be the …
  • @m4rk Mark Davis on threads
    The prospect of ActivityPub integration and proper federation was a massive part of my enthusiasm for Threads, well before joining the team.  Extremely excited for this first step along the path.  Congrats to all the folks who've helped make this a reality 👏
  • @micah.pollak Micah Pollak on threads
    This is very exciting.  I really like Mastodon/ActivityPub.  Probably more than Threads.  The one thing it's missing is enough people.  Threads connecting up with ActivityPub is going to be a game changer for both Threads and Mastodon!
  • @mattnavarra Matt Navarra on threads
    Meta starts testing Threads integration with ActivityPub Threads has started testing a feature to show Threads posts on Mastodon and other ActivityPub protocol-supported networks.  “Making Threads interoperable will give people more choice over how they interact and it will help …
  • @salrodriguez Salvador Rodriguez on threads
    When Meta launched Threads in July, the company said it would plug it into the ActivityPub protocol, making it interoperable with other social networks.  Today, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced that the company has begun testing that exact thing. …
  • @zuck Mark Zuckerberg on threads
    Starting a test where posts from Threads accounts will be available on Mastodon and other services that use the ActivityPub protocol.  Making Threads interoperable will give people more choice over how they interact and it will help content reach more people.  I'm pretty optimist…
  • @mastodonmigration@mastodon.online @mastodonmigration@mastodon.online on mastodon
    So, the latest news is Threads says they are planning to start testing some kind of ability to see Threads posts on Mastodon (and other Fediverse apps), but you won't be able to comment, and Threads users won't be able to see any Fediverse content. …
  • @TNLNYC@mastodon.social Tristan Louis on mastodon
    #Threads coming to the #Fediverse reminds me of #AOL opening up to the Web: A move democratizing a technology (The web; #activitypub ) but also with some challenges to established norms as the masses arrive.
  • @joeo10@mastodon.sdf.org Joe Ortiz on mastodon
    Once again, I and I'm sure a LOT of people around here don't trust Meta/FB and neither should you. https://techcrunch.com/...  It's very likely (to me) that Meta/FB is going to sneak in and start scraping up everything for ads and AI training.  In other words, they're going to Em…
  • @b3ll@mastodon.social @b3ll@mastodon.social on mastodon
    @stroughtonsmith I'm really hoping it's decent integration.  Worried for a future where it's supported but then kinda nerfed and then they push people to use Threads instead, and then it just sucks
  • @stroughtonsmith … Steve Troughton-Smith on mastodon
    Threads fills in a whole bunch of the gaps that Mastodon has, and Mastodon gets the rich third party clients (and iPad, Mac clients) that Threads likely never will.  With seamless interop, it really is the best of both worlds.  For many people, it will finally close the loop
  • @Chancerubbage@mastodon.social @Chancerubbage@mastodon.social on mastodon
    @Techmeme @WarnerCrocker if Fediverse decides to allow it.  —  I'm still uncertain if it allows Meta to snake in and start hovering up everything for ad data and AI training.  As are others more familiar with federation.
  • @danyork@mastodon.social Dan York on mastodon
    It's great to see that #Threads is getting serious about offering #ActivityPub integration so that communication can happen with #Mastodon and the broader #Fediverse.  We NEED open, interoperable protocols that for this kind of communication and interaction.  It's a key way to un…
  • @stroughtonsmith … Steve Troughton-Smith on mastodon
    Presumably we'll see threads.net/api/v2/instance light up at some point?
  • Silicon Republic Leigh Mc Gowran on mastodon
    Threads bets on interoperability ahead of EU launch today
  • @zuck Mark Zuckerberg on threads
    Today we're opening Threads to more countries in Europe.  Welcome everyone 👋
  • @threads @threads on threads
    Threads 🤝 Europe
  • @freezydorito Laura on threads
    europeans are getting here with perfect timing, this is how this website looked like when it launched, its gotten so much better
  • @gergelyorosz_ Gergely Orosz on threads
    How was the Threads app built?  I talked with the engineering team behind the app back in September. ~6 months to build, with a very small initial team.  Here are all the details from @0xjessel and @zahanm.  (Wrote this in September, but back then couldn't post it here thanks to …
  • @tb_99999 Tom Bender on threads
    Welcome, EU Threads 🇪🇺 We've been beta testing this for you since July.  Hope you find it suitable!
  • @poorlydrawnarsenal @poorlydrawnarsenal on threads
    Hello Europeans
  • @mattnavarra Matt Navarra on threads
    Threads launches for nearly HALF A BILLION more users in Europe 🇪🇺🎉 To coincide with today's launch, Meta is giving users in the region the ability to browse @Threads without needing a profile Actually posting or interacting with content will still require an Instagram account, h…
  • @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on threads
    Threads was the fourth most downloaded iOS app of the year which is wild given it was released in July.  That said, I'm even more impressed about number 3 on the list.  🤯 1.  Temu: Shop Like a Billionaire 2.  CapCut - Video Editor 3.  Max: Stream HBO, TV, & Movies 4.  Threads, an…
  • @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on threads
    Threads is now available in Europe.  Welcome to all the new users from across the ocean.  👋🏾 Heads up Tech Threads , you should all follow @gergelyorosz_ who was one of my favorite follows on Twitter.  He's finally now able to be active on Threads.
  • @tomwarrenuk Tom Warren on threads
    Welcome to Threads, Europe 👋 Meta is launching Threads for nearly a half billion more users in Europe today
  • @gergelyorosz_ Gergely Orosz on threads
    👋 Everyone.  Congrats to the Threads team for making this app (hopefully?) comply with EU regulations, and opening it to those of us based in Europe.