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• @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on threads

  Elon is about to find out that “free speech” actually costs a lot, in fines, in the EU.

• @safety @safety on x

  In the past couple of days, we've seen an increase in daily active users on @X in the conflict area, plus there have been more than 50 million posts globally focusing on the weekend's terrorist attack on Israel by Hamas. As the events continue to unfold rapidly, a cross-company l…

• @thierrybreton Thierry Breton on x

  Following the terrorist attacks by Hamas against 🇮🇱, we have indications of X/Twitter being used to disseminate illegal content & disinformation in the EU. Urgent letter to @elonmusk on #DSA obligations ⤵️ [image]

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  @ThierryBreton Our policy is that everything is open source and transparent, an approach that I know the EU supports. Please list the violations you allude to on 𝕏, so that that the public can see them. Merci beaucoup.

• @lindayax Linda Yaccarino on x

  Everyday we're reminded of our global responsibility to protect the public conversation by ensuring everyone has access to real-time information and safeguarding the platform for all our users. In response to the recent terrorist attack on Israel by Hamas, we've redistributed...

• @thierrybreton Thierry Breton on x

  @elonmusk Vu, merci. You are well aware of your users' — and authorities'— reports on fake content and glorification of violence. Up to you to demonstrate that you walk the talk. My team remains at your disposal to ensure DSA compliance, which the EU will continue to enforce rigo…

• @globalaffairs @globalaffairs on x

  Today @lindayaX responded to @ThierryBreton's letter detailing our work in response to the terrorist attack on Israel. [image]

• @marinamedvin @marinamedvin on x

  X has spent the past 12 hours systemically removing all proof of Palestinian terrorist atrocities committed on children, women, the elderly, and the men. A fraction of the proof remains. And not just individual posts — but full accounts gone. Why is X doing this. The victims...

• @prestonjbyrne Preston Byrne on x

  “Why is X doing this?” Probably because the European Commission is ordering them to, as @ThierryBreton made clear in his post on Monday. People seeing Hamas atrocities threatens social order in Europe so it must be suppressed.

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  @MatchasmMatt @ThierryBreton I still don't know what they're talking about! Maybe it's in the mail or something.

• @isabelle_szcz Isabelle Szczepanski on x

  A few remarks : - @ThierryBreton wrongly sent his letter to @elonmusk (the old boys club mentality ?). @lindayaX replies, as she should have been the rightful recipient as the company's CEO. Amen to that. - Breton says that X must remove disinformation, Linda Yacarino replies in.…

• @erinkwoo Erin Woo on x

  Linda Yaccarino responded to Thierry Breton's letter here: (Elon Musk responded yesterday via this platform, asking for more information and demanding that Breton post alleged violations publicly on X.)

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  @ThierryBreton We take our actions in the open. No back room deals. Please post your concerns explicitly on this platform.

• @thierrybreton Thierry Breton on x

  We have received the reply by @X to our letter raising concerns about the spread of illegal content and disinformation related to the Hamas terrorist attack against Israel. The #DSA enforcement team will analyse the reply and decide on next steps.

• @anneapplebaum Anne Applebaum on x

  “X users were presented with video game footage passed off as footage of a Hamas attack, images of fireworks in Algeria presented as Israeli strikes on Hamas & old video from the Syrian civil war repurposed to look like it was taken this weekend” https://www.wired.com/...

• @jason_kint Jason Kint on x

  Things just got (appropriately) real for Elon in his posture on the new DSA. “I urge you to ensure a prompt, accurate and complete response to this request within the next 24 hours. We will include your answer in our assessment file on your compliance with the DSA.”

• @guyverhofstadt Guy Verhofstadt on x

  A long overdue first step by @ThierryBreton Under Musk, X has become a swamp of disinformation..including from the owner of the platform. EU laws must apply & if not enough, X should be regulated until it cleans up its act!

• @pinboard @pinboard on x

  This is a misunderstanding of how to use Twitter effectively. You can still get feeds of arbitrarily high quality on any topic, including breaking news, but it requires using the lists feature. That has never been adequately promoted or supported, but it's at everyone's disposal

• @jason_kint Jason Kint on x

  Why didn't he address the letter to the ceo? Just curious. That would be normal protocol.

• @zsk Zoe Kleinman on x

  I have seen a lot of disinfo on X - my fab colleague @Shayan86 is doing a good job of highlighting the fakes he has been able to verify but ultimately it's X's job, not his

• @pinboard @pinboard on x

  A lot of people who spent the Trump years cheerleading for critical thinking, fact-checking and fighting disinformation are now leaving in a huff now that this site is not ideologically homogeneous instead of putting their principles into action. Sad!

• @renee.diresta Renee DiResta on threads

  This is actually a reasonable take.  The idea that there is going to be one news platform to rule them all, and magical algorithmic feeds that know to only boost “good” things, is a fantasy.  If you want to see news, you can go visit news sites right now. …

• @guillecummings @guillecummings on threads

  Based on the QTs and replies to this it seems people actually like Mosseri's position on this.

• @mattdpearce @mattdpearce on threads

  A lot of the conversations we've had about finding a middle ground between having a sanitized/lobotomized public square (Threads) and a snuff-film propaganda server (X) is really about trying to reconstitute the principles of journalistic judgment as digital protocol, except some…

• @mattdpearce @mattdpearce on threads

  The more specific question is whether Meta will ban journalism on Threads alongside their other platforms if Congress passes JCPA or if California passes CJPA.  There's a difference between not actively promoting journalism versus potentially actively suppressing it in the future…

• @keithedwards Keith Edwards on threads

  What does “not going to amplify it” mean?  Does that mean trending topics won't be about what's happening in the world - like Israel, for instance?

• @laurengoode Lauren Goode on threads

  This exactly.  We've been through the pivot to live video, the pivot to 20-minute videos, the pivot to “discover,” etc etc.  Amplification of our stories (and “brands") is essential but we cannot bet the farm on these platforms.

• @reckless1280 Nilay Patel on threads

  I am begging my peers in the media to stop asking for anything from the people who made the entire media industry pivot to video.  Hold them to their promises around federation and build better interoperable news products that actually compete!  It will be better for everyone!

• @bashowicks Bash O Wicks on threads

  🧵 It's becoming quite comical the number of times @mosseri has to say this about news, and how each time journos hear it as “Meta doesn't want news on Threads”.  Personally speaking, I'm exhausted from this narrative that only pushes users further away from a platform with a lot …

• @om @om on threads

  Amplification is the core function of a platform defined by algorithms.  How they do it, is their prerogative.  Whether it is news, misinformation, ads, photos — amplification of those are strategic business decisions.  And weirdly, I can see why Adam and his team are taking this…

• @taylorlorenz Taylor Lorenz on threads

  By wholesale blocking people from searching newsworthy words including covid, long covid, etc, you are *absolutely* “getting in the way of it”

• @jasonrosenbaum Jason Rosenbaum on threads

  Hi @mosseri: I understand you don't want overpromise and under-deliver.  If you want journalists like me to use this platform as the primary place to post our reporting, you could have an algorithm that prioritizes posts with links alongside text-heavy commentary posts. …

• @myhlee Michelle Ye Hee Lee on threads

  I don't think we're clamoring for Threads — a Meta product — to “amplify news.”  The conversations I'm witnessing is that post-Twitter, people are looking for a place where news from multiple trusted sources is easily accessible real-time, especially breaking news.  Threads is ju…

• @frankafusco Frank Fusco on threads

  The sides in this debate aren't speaking the same language.  Meta's strategy for Threads is (somewhat extreme) risk aversion in opposition to Twitter's (very extreme and self-destructive) lust for risk.  However, fundamentally: if you have moderation, you have curative interventi…

• @luckytran Dr. Lucky Tran on threads

  But this is false.  Threads is absolutely getting in the way of news because you are arbitrarily choosing to restrict search results on important news and health words like Covid and vaccines.  Please fix this!

• @drewharwell Drew Harwell on threads

  Thanks for elaborating.  Just to be clear, what genres of content does Threads intend to amplify, and what will that look like?  And why is news - original reporting, discussion of current events, real-world issues - uniquely ineligible in comparison?

• @benedictevans Benedict Evans on threads

  It is notable how many times Adam has to say this, and how many journalists seem to hear it as “Meta doesn't want news on Threads” And also worth asking whether a firehose of real-time posts about news (with all the abuse and distortion that comes with that) is unambiguously a go…

• @lucaspuskaric @lucaspuskaric on threads

  @threads @mosseri Read the room.  I love you.  You're doing a great job so far.  Keep releasing amazing features at an incredible cadence to your millions of active users.  This was the most seamless product launch I've witnessed in some time.  I love the diversity of content and…

• @yayitsrob Robinson Meyer on threads

  FWIW, I don't take issue with this approach as much as others.  I don't really want a “news” app, and I'm not even sure I understand what a “news” app is.  As a journalist, I want an app where I can (1) share links, ideas, and reportage with curious readers, (2) follow and chat w…

• @mosseri Adam Mosseri on threads

  We're not anti-news.  News is clearly already on Threads.  People can share news; people can follow accounts that share news.  We're not going to get in the way of any either.  But, we're also not going go to amplify news on the platform.  To do so would be too risky given the ma…

• @miasato.2 Mia Sato on threads

  Israel-Palestine news has brought lots of people on this app in recent days — it undeniably feels like a different place.  I want to know how this squares with what @mosseri has said about how Meta won't encourage “hard news” on Threads https://www.theverge.com/...

• @jason_kint Jason Kint on x

  I'm calling BS long term here. There is no way they will build habitual and long term behavior without embracing live, current events and news. They know this. They're using Threads as part of their public policy strategy to scare news distribution and not overpromise on product.

• @thierrybreton Thierry Breton on x

  The #DSA is here to protect free speech against arbitrary decisions, and at the same time protect our citizens & democracies. My requests to #Meta's Mark Zuckerberg following the terrorist attacks by Hamas against Israel — and on tackling disinformation in elections in the EU ⤵️ …

• @jakubsimek Jakub Simek on x

  @ThierryBreton @Meta I think the EU has bigger problems to worry about than lecturing tech companies. How much EU funding went to Hamas and empowered Hamas over all those years? Who will be responsible for that? We are free people and want free social media. Not your sad centrali…

• @fboversight @fboversight on x

  Facebook's harms aren't just centralized in one city or country—they're global. Legislation like the DSA is crucial in reminding Big Tech that they no longer have impunity... Now, they have a legal OBLIGATION to pull down disinformation and dangerous content.

• @prestonjbyrne Preston Byrne on x

  @ThierryBreton @Meta Quick question. Why don't you publish your definition of “disinformation” and all of the examples to which you refer, so the public can assess the nature of the political censorship in which the European Commission is engaged here?

• @shellenberger Michael Shellenberger on x

  Hi — sorry — but who exactly do you think you are to demand censorship of speech? In America, we don't even let our own politicians censor speech, much less foreign ones. Please consider reading the First Amendment to our Constitution AND BACK THE HELL OFF

• @iamredlus Lior Redlus on x

  @Meta (@facebook and @instagram) responds to 84%, and @tiktok_us to 93% of the Israeli attorney's office requests to remove misinformation and outright lies about the Hamas terror attack and Israel's response. How come @X does not come even close to this? @elonmusk [image]

• @balajis Balaji on x

  “Democracy” is when you ensure the election turns out how you like by censoring all the opinions you don't like. “Authoritarianism” is posting on Facebook.

• @xdaily @xdaily on x

  Here is the letter to @X in comparison. Although, both letters address the dissemination of illegal content and disinformation on their platforms in the wake of terrorist attacks by Hamas against Israel, the wording against @X is a lot stronger. [image]

• @byjacobward Jacob Ward on x

  Meta has responded in part: “We quickly established a special operations center staffed with experts, including fluent Hebrew and Arabic speakers, to closely monitor and respond to this rapidly evolving situation.” Also says it's working with regional fact-checkers.

• @patrickhilsman @patrickhilsman on x

  This isn't going to work. Europe thinks it can censor its way out of problems. These regulations are likely to be weaponized against people posting real content of Israeli atrocities while ignoring Israeli leaders and media personalities calling for mass-murder.

• @prestonjbyrne Preston Byrne on x

  Quick question. Why don't you publish your definition of “disinformation” and all of the examples to which you refer, so the public can assess the nature of the political censorship in which the European Commission is engaged here?

• @zamaan_qureshi Zamaan Qureshi on x

  Important. @ThierryBreton asks Zuckerberg to outline how Meta is tackling deepfakes ahead of elections in Poland, Netherlands, Lithuania, Belgium, Croatia, Romania Austria, and EU, reminding the CEO of his DSA compliance obligations. We're entering a new regulatory era in the EU.

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  Musk argues with EU commissioner over Israel/Hamas disinformation on X