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Jensen Huang took a surprise call from Trump onstage at the All-In Summit on Monday in Los Angeles, where the two agreed that AI safety worries are overblown

leave safety to us, Nvidia's Jensen Huang saysKevin Breuninger /CNBC:Nvidia CEO Huang attending Trump's state dinner for China's Xi: SourceM.G. Siegler /Spyglass:AI's “No Fate” FutureHerb Scribner /Axios:Trump and Huang unite against AI doomers in surprise on-stage callAbhijeet Mishra /SamMobile:World's most important tech guy uses the Galaxy Z Fold 8Keely Quinlan /StateScoop:Massachusetts Gov. Healey urges federal AI oversight after Trump dismisses industry concernsKishalaya Kundu /TechSpot:Tru

New York Times

Context & Ripple Effects

Huang has paired Nvidia's AI-growth agenda with arguments about U.S. competitiveness: in 2025 he described the company as being in an awkward position in the U.S.-China AI contest, and he questioned whether China would accept H200 chips if export controls eased. His separate case against new AI rules at a Salesforce event extends that posture from chip policy to safety governance.

The reported onstage exchange puts that deregulatory message alongside presidential rhetoric, while Massachusetts Governor Maura Healey has urged federal AI oversight. Public reaction also framed the dispute as increasingly partisan, though that characterization is opinion rather than an established outcome.

First-order effects

  • The reported call gives Huang and Nvidia a high-profile platform for their argument that AI safety should be handled by companies and market forces rather than new rules.
  • Healey's call for federal oversight stands as an immediate counterweight, exposing a visible split over who should set AI safety policy.

Second-order effects

  • Nvidia can align its case for rapid AI deployment with the administration's competitiveness rhetoric, while officials seeking federal guardrails must argue against a more permissive national political signal.
  • The disagreement links AI safety governance more tightly to the existing U.S.-China technology-policy debate in which Nvidia has sought greater policy flexibility.

Third-order effects

  • If executive-branch competitiveness messaging continues to outweigh calls for formal guardrails, AI governance may be shaped more by state-aligned industrial policy and company commitments than by new federal safety rules.
  • Safety policy risks becoming a partisan fault line, making durable nationwide standards harder to assemble even as AI infrastructure suppliers seek regulatory clarity.

The trend: AI governance is being recast as a competitiveness question, with leading infrastructure suppliers pressing for industry-led safety over new federal mandates.

Discussion

  • @benitoz @benitoz on x
    Holy crap POTUS just phoned in @JensenHuang live on stage at All In Summit We will not lose the ai race! And whatever Dario said this weekend won't stop our progress This made my morning! $NVDA
  • @danprimack Dan Primack on x
    Not totally accurate, but closer to true than false.
  • @zck Zak Kukoff on x
    It's probably bad for America - and certainly bad for our tech advantage - that effective altruists and accelerationists have so neatly mapped to Dem/Republican
  • @dkthomp Derek Thompson on x
    Is there a China expert I should talk to who thinks Jensen and Trump are basically right; that chip trade with China is fine; and that the fear of advanced Chinese open-weight models becoming an RSI/AGI supermonstergod is absurd?
  • @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x
    There's an impulse in American politics, a set of tactics and drives that has proven very effective at extinguishing speech.  We once called it McCarthyism.  Another time we called it Wokeism...It's an ugly one.  I recommend you avoid being a part of it, no matter your politics o…
  • @beffjezos @beffjezos on x
    It's so surreal seeing everyone without an anxiety disorder just rederiving e/acc logic in real time these past few days.
  • @ruima Rui Ma on x
    ...Did you know that AI literally falls under the Chinese Foreign Ministry's Department of Arms Control?  AI is one of its explicit portfolios, alongside nuclear weapons, nonproliferation, chemical and biological weapons, missiles, and conventional arms control...That doesn't mea…
  • @osint613 @osint613 on x
    Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang: Nobody in China is saying that there's end of this and end of that, and cataclysmic this and doom or that. We're making it up. The part that is frustrating is, if it was true, then we ought to talk about it and go do something about it, right? Even if it'…
  • @clashreport @clashreport on x
    Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang: Nobody in China is saying that there's end of this and end of that, and cataclysmic this and doom or that. We're making it up. The part that is frustrating is, if it was true, then we ought to talk about it and go do something about it, right? Even if it'…
  • @dhh @dhh on x
    This is the exact stance we took at 37signals back in 2021, and it's still the correct one. Work is a terrible place to litigate societal/political questions unrelated to the business with coworkers. “Do it outside” is also the Omarchy way now. Love that Jensen is affirming it 🤘
  • @pewilliams_ Paul E Williams on x
    Saying this and then taking a phone call from the President and making fun of Dario for being woke is beastmode actually
  • @jun_song Jun Song on x
    I want every single person in the world to succeed. I don't want anyone gatekeeping intelligence just to exploit people. This is why open source has to win.
  • @kylekuzma @kylekuzma on x
    Yeah maybe we should listen to the guy that has damn near built this revolution, instead of paid actor puppets about AI?
  • @brian_armstrong Brian Armstrong on x
    Glad to see this idea has spread! Better for everyone.
  • @gavinsbaker Gavin Baker on x
    The way that Anthropic and OpenAI are going to “pace” the frontier is by spending more time and more *compute* on alignment, monitoring and evals. The frontier labs that choose to “pace” likely spend slightly more money on compute at the cost of lower margins. That's it.
  • @hughhewitt Hugh Hewitt on x
    Listeners need to focus on “We want America to succeed.” There are many ways to understand “wanting America to succeed.” Jensen Huang probably has a traditional understanding of what that means. Many in politics today have radically different ideas of what that phrase means.
  • @andrewcurran_ Andrew Curran on x
    President Trump just called Jensen live on stage at the All In Summit and said slowing down would be playing right into the hands of China. President Trump: We're not going to let that happen. It's a hoax! Jensen Huang: That's right, we're not going to let that happen sir.
  • @drjstrategy James E. Thorne on x
    We live in interesting times 👇
  • @wallstengine @wallstengine on x
    President Trump calls NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang live on stage at the All-In Summit. “The robots will not be taking over. The AI will not be taking over the rest of the world. The whole thing is a hoax.”
  • @scottstts Scott on x
    “We're not gonna pace the frontier, got it boys?”
  • @chrisgpt Chris on x
    Jensen received a phone call from the President live on stage at the All In Summit heres the most important part of that interaction: Trump: “They want to see that happen it could be China...We're not going to let that happen, It's a hoax!” Jensen Huang:
  • @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x
    Trump: “Its a hoax, we are not gonna let that happen”. They are not going to slow down. Jensen: “Thats right, we are not gonna let that happen.
  • @hesamation @hesamation on x
    Sir, you somehow united the US president, China, Jensen Huang, and half the AI industry against us. you achieved GLOBAL COORDINATION but AGAINST pacing.
  • @chamath Chamath Palihapitiya on x
    This was surreal
  • @thechiefnerd @thechiefnerd on x
    JENSEN HUANG: “We don't welcome political discourse inside our company. Take it home ... We're bipartisan. We want America to succeed ... The discourse about race and religion and politics and all of that stuff, we tell people do it outside the company. It's not for us.”
  • @dratchcap Matt Dratch on x
    Jensen is clearly running out of patience with the lab CEOs. He anchors their rounds / IPOs, supplies the compute, then gets another doomerism sermon. Eventually he says, fine. No more GPUs for you. I'll build the lab myself. Let them eat ASICs
  • @uhshanti @uhshanti on x
    I think the best thing any lefty can do right now who is trying to figure out what a coherent analysis and response on AI should be is watch the girls, as they are fightinggg. not joking! capitalist on capitalist violence is instructive!
  • @firstadopter Tae Kim on x
    at least he was polite 🤣
  • @jessesingal Jesse Singal on x
    As I said on here I was so confused when Cal Newport, in an anti-doomerism piece everyone was lauding, treated Huang as a moderate voice of reason, the opposite of those x-risk weirdo cultists. Very strange times
  • @levelsio @levelsio on x
    The good guys won this week
  • @samfbiddle Sam Biddle on x
    This is part of why the current frenzy is so frustrating: Virtually every single prominent entity speaking loudly about AI has a massive financial interest in things shaking out one way or another
  • @mikeisaac Rat King on x
    jensen huang, CEO of nvidia, is currently onstage at the All In tech summit politely calling bullshit on the doomerism coming out of Anthropic (and OpenAI to some degree) right now nvidia just as conflicted as everyone, since it sells the chips to all the AI companies
  • @mikeisaac Rat King on x
    per sources, trump is basically stumping for Jensen/Nvidia and data center buildout: “They're [Doomers] playing right into the hands of a lot of people that don't want to see it happen. Political people, and also china. We're not going to let that happen. it's a hoax.” — Trump
  • @edzitron Ed Zitron on x
    maybe ya shouldn't have claimed that we'd “hit AGI” bud
  • @mikeisaac Rat King on x
    okay wow. per folks there, Trump called Jensen huang in the middle of his interview and jensen put the phone on speakerphone Jensen thanked trump for his social media post this morning pouring cold water on alarmism
  • @theallinpod @theallinpod on x
    MUST SEE: Amazing moment as President Trump calls Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang while he's on stage at the All-In Summit. @POTUS on AI Doomerism: “I'm telling you, it's all a hoax... and we're not going to let that happen.”
  • @skdh Sabine Hossenfelder on x
    fwiw I think the actual reason leaders of AI frontier labs suddenly seem to agree to pace AI development is (a) safety measures are currently so crap that they're likely to end up in court if not jail, and they all agree that no one wants that (b) they see no major new model adva…
  • @miles_brundage Miles Brundage on x
    @samfbiddle If you define prominence by being a large company or on the staff there, sure. But there are plenty of non-financially-interested experts raising the alarm, and there always have been.
  • @fchollet François Chollet on x
    You cannot separate “this person genuinely believes X, therefore they want Y” and “Y is in this person's interest”. People will almost always align their beliefs and their interests. You can be sincere *and* self-interested, and that's usually the default.
  • @andymasley Andy Masley on x
    Yeah agree. We've seen a lot of amazing progress from both the right and left and it's a terrible time to reinforce memes about this being about one specific party.
  • @atabarrok Alex Tabarrok on x
    @samfbiddle Right but for most of the people speaking out their financial incentive are to stay quiet.
  • @thestalwart Joe Weisenthal on x
    So many people reason through heuristics, like who is aligned with whom, what personal financial interests they might have at stake, what peer group pressure they get. And I get it, because these things are complicated. But the way out, as always, is to seek truth from facts.
  • @andrewcurran_ Andrew Curran on x
    President Trump: ‘Al taking over the World, destroying Humanity, and all other things bad, is a HOAX’ ‘It will not be stopped by brilliantly run Destructive Forces during the Term of President DONALD J. TRUMP!’
  • @chrislhayes Chris Hayes on x
    @samfbiddle Yes which is why people have to just do their best job of assessing the evidence and arguments and use their judgment without simply relying on that heuristic. Makes it tricky!
  • @andrewcurran_ Andrew Curran on x
    President Trump on Truth Social says there will be no AI slowdown or pause. It's full speed ahead. He says the entire thing is a “sick conspiracy
  • @deryatr_ Derya Unutmaz on x
    Hah! This made my day! We 🇺🇸 are going to make it & continue to lead in the age of AI! Thank you, Mr. President @realDonaldTrump. Thank you, @JensenHuang! 🙏 Some of us are grateful to both of you for keeping us on the path toward a golden age and blocking a dystopian future!
  • @signulll @signulll on x
    the events unfolding right now are so incredible that even seasoned drama writers would struggle to create a timeline this good. half of it would get rejected from the writers' room for being too unrealistic.
  • @altcap Brad Gerstner on x
    More from Jensen: Coxon claims not based on science & demonstrably untrue; America we have to run - slowing is definitely the wrong strategy; We are already at super intelligence; The labs are incredible - we just need to urge them on but tone down the drama;
  • @thezvi Zvi Mowshowitz on x
    I urge everyone, no matter how bad the statements get, I don't care what Trump says, do not turn this into more of a partisan thing than it already is, do not attack on that basis. That only makes things worse.
  • @altcap Brad Gerstner on x
    Trump calling @JensenHuang live during @theallinpod interview.  “The grt thing about Jensen is that he can create the best AI chip in the world but can't figure out how to put me on speaker phone.”  They agree that AI is safe, grt for jobs, economic growth & natl security.  😂🇺🇸🚀 …
  • @thezvi Zvi Mowshowitz on x
    Okay, this is very different, this is full hostility mode and very very bad news.
  • @hilbertspaess Jacob Coxon on x
    @annmarie Fake news. I was invited but did not agree to go
  • @micsolana Mike Solana on x
    nobody is saying AI doom as a space was invented in the last two weeks. the thing skeptics are saying, which I do not agree with, is the “whistleblower” (he wasn't that) is part of an op coordinated by powerful wealthy safety people (and maybe also china?).
  • @aghamilton29 @aghamilton29 on x
    I had some hesitation about calling me it an op until now... But teaming up with Jeffrey Epstein's best friend/publicist whose main benefactor for years has been a convicted fraudster with CCP ties (Miles Guo) kind of gives away the game...
  • @dkthomp Derek Thompson on x
    Some reasonable critiques of Anthropic policy 1) If you cared so much about AI safety for years, why didn't you do more to unilaterally embed third-party evaluators a long time ago? 2) Why haven't you done more to engage China, if you believe that Chinese AI policy is allegedly l…
  • @noahpinion Noah Smith on x
    Anthropic people understand AI's potential for bioterror in a way that a lot of copers won't let themselves understand
  • @divestech Dan Ives on x
    If OpenAI and Anthropic slow their model development, the software sector will accelerate its AI development and further narrow the gap against the frontier models. Meta will also go down this path and many others. Need to see around the corner and thru the noise in this🎯
  • @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x
    they have made lots of progress (partly using neurosymbolic techniques!) on problems that can be formally verified, but that progress was very expensive and doesn't translate well outside of benchmarks, and on the ECI the gain was modest. Astra is not that much better than the la…
  • @dkthomp Derek Thompson on x
    “If Dario Amodei believes that Anthropic should be nationalized, he should just hand the company over to Donald Trump” Donald Trump:
  • @satyanadella Satya Nadella on x
    Satya Nadella says “we welcome” the “deliberate pacing needed to get alignment right”, and announces a “Code of Conduct” that underlies Microsoft's MAI models
  • r/BetterOffline r on reddit
    Trump phones Nvidia's Huang at All-In Summit, calls data center opposition a ‘hoax’
  • r/NVDA_Stock r on reddit
    Trump calls Jensen at All in Summit