Dario Amodei says the “toughest dilemma” about his proposal to “pace the frontier” of AI model development is what happens if China does not do the same
Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei said Sunday that the “toughest dilemma” about his proposal to slow the advancement of artificial intelligence …
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Context & Ripple Effects
Amodei’s case for pacing frontier development was already framed as an operational governance agenda: embedded evaluators and coordination among democracies alongside engagement with authoritarian governments. His January warning about AI-chip sales to China also placed the company’s safety argument in an explicitly national-security context.
The China question turns voluntary restraint from a lab-level safety position into a coordination problem. Public support from Musk for oversight and competitor peer review gives the proposal a visible industry constituency, while the discussion shows that the terms and enforceability of any arrangement remain contested.
First-order effects
- Anthropic’s pacing proposal must address how its safeguards and slower-development posture apply when a major rival national ecosystem is not participating in the same framework.
- Frontier AI developers face a more explicit choice between endorsing shared oversight mechanisms and arguing that unilateral restraint weakens their competitive position.
Second-order effects
- Musk’s backing of competitor peer review makes cross-lab evaluation a more concrete governance option, shifting the debate from broad calls for caution toward who can inspect and enforce frontier-model standards.
- Coordination among democratic governments becomes central to the proposal’s credibility, because fragmented national policies would leave individual labs to bear the commercial and strategic cost of restraint.
Third-order effects
- If frontier-model governance is organized around national blocs rather than universal rules, AI safety standards will increasingly be treated as instruments of technological sovereignty and security policy.
- The emerging fault line is whether safety oversight can be institutionalized without becoming a mechanism that advantages the jurisdictions and firms able to set the rules.
The trend: Frontier AI governance is moving from voluntary lab commitments toward state-linked coordination shaped by strategic competition with China.
Related: Frontier-model sovereignty · Dual-use AI governance · Frontier AI Institutionalization · Anthropic · Elon Musk backs Dario Amodei's arguments about pacing the frontier · Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei says selling AI chips to China
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Discussion
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@demishassabis
Demis Hassabis
on x
Dario's essay points towards the right path forward. The details need working through, but the direction is correct for meeting this critical moment. This is also why we recently put out our proposal for an industry-wide standards body for frontier AI. https://x.com/...
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@elonmusk
Elon Musk
on x
@kevinnbass Dario is right that there should be some oversight. Peer review of AI by competitors is the right way to start this off.
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@mehreenzahra
Mehreen Zahra-Malik
on x
Perhaps the most frightening part of Amodei's essay is what he says about geopolitics. The US may need to slow frontier AI for safety but cannot safely do so if China keeps accelerating. The race itself becomes the trap: everyone may understand the danger while no one can afford …
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NewsMax.com
Sam Barron
on x
Former Trump Adviser Backs Self-Imposed AI Slowdown
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@johncornyn
Senator John Cornyn
on x
I agree with @DavidSacks If developers of AI want to slow down development of their product they are free to do so. One thing is for sure: their competitors won't, including our nation's adversaries.
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@stevesi
Steven Sinofsky
on x
Companies should be careful about what they so aggressively campaign for.
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@stevesi
Steven Sinofsky
on x
Please read this.
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@linamkhan
Lina Khan
on x
Law enforcers already have authority to charge companies and their CEOs for creating and releasing dangerous, unvetted, or defective products. We shouldn't let discussions about new legal regimes distract from the fact that there's no AI exemption from laws already on the books —…
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@vkhosla
Vinod Khosla
on x
Hard position as not getting behind China is even more critical. Even if they agree to slow down I would not trust them. Advanced AI in Chinese hands is far more dangerous than advanced AI
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@tvietor08
Tommy Vietor
on x
Corporations are not and will never be altruistic, which is why we need the government to regulate new and dangerous technologies. The problem is David and Silicon Valley elites who put profits over everyone else's safety.
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@garymarcus
@garymarcus
on x
Gary Marcus — “stop pretending you need anyone else's permission.
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@levie
Aaron Levie
on x
“Pacing
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@martin_casado
@martin_casado
on x
The fairest (and simplest) view of the situation is that the labs are stuck between the doomers and the government, and trying to navigate both. The worry of course is that they won't be able to control either, and their ability to do so is eroding with each move.
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@natpurser
Nat Purser
on x
i agree that antitrust enforcers could do more under existing laws to challenge deceptive, unfair, and anticompetitive practices in ai markets now. but this doesn't really answer the live question: how can competing labs coordinate to slow down the race dynamic she describes here…
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@matthewstoller
Matt Stoller
on x
Correct
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@matthewstoller
Matt Stoller
on x
And here we go, Lina Khan with the obvious point that these defective products may foster liability for the AI firms who release them, and that discussions new legal regimes are something of a distraction.
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@dkokotajlo
Daniel Kokotajlo
on x
We'll be able to tell if this is regulatory capture or not by whether the pace of progress at the frontier actually slows down (which would allow other companies to catch up). If a year from now we look at the trendlines in A\ and OpenAI capabilities progress towards recursive se…
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@patrickmoorhead
Patrick Moorhead
on x
Leave it up to David as a voice of reason.
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@deanwball
Dean W. Ball
on x
I'm going to delete this tweet and post screenshots here for posterity. I stand by the argument but we shouldn't fight. This is too important for squealy arguing. I am going to choose to see David's OP as an olive branch and operate under that assumption. TYFYATTM!
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@yuntiandeng
Yuntian Deng
on x
I feel like this is always one-way preaching. Anthropic comes across as incredibly arrogant to me. You keep telling us what responsible AI development should be, and now even laying out a plan for how the entire field should proceed. But do you actually listen to what other peopl…
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@adamjohnsonchi
Adam Johnson
on x
Seems like there's a pretty clear way to neutralize allegations of regulatory capture: AI firms can agree to zero lobbying and any group they fund—including astroturf safety orgs— having no say in regulation. And they only be consulted by Congress for technical questions.
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@danprimack
Dan Primack
on x
.@GaryMarcus is boosting @DavidSacks Guess it's official: AI has pushed us to the end times.
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@womandefiner
Paul
on x
“Pretending you need anyone else's permission” This is how you get your AI company nationalized by the way. The second one of these guys go off the rails their company is going to be US property.
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@ajitpai
Ajit Pai
on x
Step 1: look up the Kingsbury Commitment of 1913. Step 2: ponder the government-backed telephone monopoly that followed. Step 3: ask yourself which sector features more innovation and competition—landline telephones from 1913-1982 or wireless from 1993-present.
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@deanwball
Dean W. Ball
on x
David Sacks: “the easiest way not to build superintelligence is for [OpenAI and Anthropic] to agree not to build it.” Sherman Antitrust Act, Section 1 (15 U.S.C. 1):
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@daniel_koss
Daniel Koss
on x
David Sacks rarely misses. Currently the smartest voice around AI regulation. It's all so logically and obviously laid out in this post. Let's see what they do and their actions will speak louder than all of their words.
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@greenplusane
Russ Greene
on x
“China is very unlikely to join a global agreement” I disagree. China is very likely to join a global agreement, but extremely unlikely to comply.
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@hesamation
@hesamation
on x
DAMN... Sacks cooked hard with this.
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@armanddoma
Armand Domalewski
on x
kind of surreal for big companies to be begging to be regulated and for the government to be like “nope”
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@vijayshekhar
Vijay Shekhar Sharma
on x
My favorite comment on the today's development. 🤝
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@clairlemon
Claire Lehmann
on x
Have had issues with Sacks' positions in the past—but this seems reasonable https://x.com/...
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@sethmagaziner
Seth Magaziner
on x
This is the White House AI tsar spinning out because the leaders of the largest AI companies are admitting that their technology is dangerous and needs to be regulated. Regulate them! This is your job! What an epic failure of leadership, and the consequences could be devastating
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@benitoz
@benitoz
on x
Sacks called their bluff Always been about reg capture Dario on 60 mins tomorrow night.
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@dowdedward
Edward Dowd
on x
Excellent framing here!
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@brianroemmele
Brian Roemmele
on x
A brilliant take on the Dario AI Theater. Thank you for clarity and not rubber stamps.
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@jason
@jason
on x
🔥
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@highyieldharry
@highyieldharry
on x
I like this David Sacks take ultimately. If you both agree to slow down, then slow down. You can just do it right now, no one is stopping you.
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@guimarin
Michael Guimarin
on x
Thank God Sacks is calling their bluff.
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@geiger_capital
@geiger_capital
on x
Babe, wake up... Sacks is destroying the fake altruistic nerds.
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@healthranger
@healthranger
on x
David Sacks is absolutely correct on this point: Hey Dario, if you want to slow down, go ahead and slow the F down. Just don't try to enforce a regulatory cartel on everybody else.
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@jonfavs
Jon Favreau
on x
This one's an all-timer, put it in a capsule for the next civilization to find: “The market already punishes models that behave in unpredictable or unauthorized ways.”
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@gphummer
Grant Hummer
on x
Translation: our gross margins are getting competed down to 0 by open source models and our capex burn rate is too high. Let's maintain our margins with regulatory capture, ban open source models, and slow down the capex arms race. All with a virtue signaling cherry on top.
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@kevinnbass
Kevin Bass
on x
Investors in Anthropic founded Open Philanthropy, the leading org promoting AI Doom They have a stake in regulation on AI that excludes competitors OP is the major funder of Tarbell Tarbell Fellows penned many articles on AI, shaping perceptions 1-in-3 in The Dispatch 1-in-5 in T…
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@lansification
Lan
on x
“anthropic is using the same playbook religious institutions have been using for centuries” “you will all die. and because i can protect you, you must follow me, you must do what i say” “this is the same psychological concept”
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@garymarcus
Gary Marcus
on x
🎺 I am tired of the cosplay and am going to blunt. 🎺 Most AI doesn't threaten to cause extinction, or even mass cybercrime. The main kind of AI we need to worry about is general purpose AI agents that are hooked up to the internet. Most of them are unreliable, unable to systemati…
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@taylorlorenz
Taylor Lorenz
on x
Very well said
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@beffjezos
@beffjezos
on x
TRVTH NVKE
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@scobleizer
Robert Scoble
on x
I am cheering from the cheap seats. Can't reshare this too many times.
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@elonmusk
Elon Musk
on x
12 years ago
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@berniesanders
Bernie Sanders
on x
President Trump prides himself on being a great deal maker. Well. He now has the opportunity to make “the deal of the century.
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@choblin29
@choblin29
on x
🚨Holy Shit. President Trump has now officially rejected Dario Amodei, Sam Altman and Elon Musk's call to slow frontier AI. Speaking in Ireland today, Trump said the US cannot risk losing its lead over China, said guardrails are possible, and dismissed parts of the safety push as …
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@teortaxestex
@teortaxestex
on x
oh wow. Golden King vs the God-Builder Guild, who wins?
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@garymarcus
Gary Marcus
on x
You can't have a real slowdown and be a total China hawk. If you are truly committed to the slowdown, you have to make a deal.
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r/RepublicadeChile
r
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Donald Trump rechaza frenar avance de la inteligencia artificial
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r/technology
r
on reddit
Donald Trump rejects calls from tech bosses for AI slowdown
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r/politics
r
on reddit
Donald Trump rejects calls from tech bosses for an AI slowdown
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r/MU_Stock
r
on reddit
Trump Downplays AI Concerns as CEOs Call for Slowing Pace
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r/politics
r
on reddit
Trump Downplays AI Concerns as CEOs Call for Slowing Technology
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@mustafasuleyman
Mustafa Suleyman
on x
This is such a straightforward and commonsense view: the purpose of technology is to serve humanity and accelerate human flourishing. Any technology that doesn't achieve that is a failure, and should be rejected. We're not yet at that point. But its right to start preparing for t…
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@benjamindekr
Benjamin De Kraker
on x
Buried at the very end of this long post: Microsoft CEO Nadella teases “first party MAI (Microsoft AI) models that we'll publish tomorrow”
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@zerohedge
@zerohedge
on x
“The key is that this cannot be controlled by a handful of entities, but must have broad representation across the ecosystem, countries, and fields, including academia.” - Spot on
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@paradislabs
Paradis
on x
This is not what Anthropic or OpenAI want. “Every organization should be able to build...without becoming dependent on any one model provider.” On the flip side, this is why open source needs to win.
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@mikebenzcyber
Mike Benz
on x
And literally right on cue, 12 minutes after I posted the tweet above, the CEO of Microsoft posted this 😂 https://x.com/...
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@martin_casado
@martin_casado
on x
“We also need to accelerate and spread the benefits of AI” <— yes!
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@chrisgpt
Chris
on x
“that underlies our own first party MAI models that we'll publish tomorrow for public consultation.” Microsoft dropping tomorrow !
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@prathkum
Pratham
on x
We don't have a real definition of “under human control.
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@bookwormengr
@bookwormengr
on x
Very reasonable.
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@peterwildeford
Peter Wildeford
on x
Satya (Microsoft CEO) joins team pacing
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@erichorvitz
Eric Horvitz
on x
“Any pursuit of superintelligence has to be grounded in the core principle that if the AI we build is not helping humanity and under human control, it's not worth pursuing.”
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@thejefflutz
Jeff Lutz
on x
Based Satya
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@mattduss
Matt Duss
on x
China's govt exerts massive regulatory control over its AI industry, the idea that we'd fall behind by doing the same is just corporate propaganda. The key question is whether we are ready to really break from neoliberalism and assert our democratic right to discipline capital.
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@mehdirhasan
Mehdi Hasan
on x
Why did this man become a congressman let alone speaker? He literally never wants Congress to do anything about anything
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@atrupar
Aaron Rupar
on x
Mike Johnson punts on oversight of AI companies: “Congress is obviously less qualified than the people who are pushing this frontier to know the ins and outs of it”
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@atrupar
Aaron Rupar
on x
Buttigieg:
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@politico
@politico
on x
Tech companies must be responsible for AI safety, Mike Johnson says, not Congress https://www.politico.com/...
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@darrigomelanie
Melanie D'Arrigo
on x
Republican AI deregulation and letting AI CEOs self-regulate their industries is how we ended up in this moment. Solving this humanity-ending level threat shouldn't be left to the people who created the problem.
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@daniel_271828
@daniel_271828
on x
This strikes me as a pretty severe mischaracterization of Johnson's quote from the article. What he actually said was:
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@atrupar
Aaron Rupar
on x
Mike Johnson on AI leaders calling for regulation of the industry:
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@amy_siskind
Amy Siskind
on x
Listening to Mike Johnson, and he is clueless and incapable of doing anything in AI. Let's face it, it's going to take having Democrats in control of Congress to put up any guardrails. Republicans are hopeless, they just do not know how to govern.
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r/NewsOfTheStupid
r
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Tech companies must be primarily responsible for AI safety, Mike Johnson says
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r/politics
r
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Tech companies must be primarily responsible for AI safety, Mike Johnson says
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r/ArtificialInteligence
r
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Tech companies must be primarily responsible for AI safety, Mike Johnson says
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@suchenzang
Susan Zhang
on x
even the normie influencers are catching on... (technically, these warnings just haven't FULLY played out YET, but like gary marcus, they might simply be off by another few years and the shape of what they're saying probably might change but can still look the same if you squint …
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@andreassteno
Andreas Steno Larsen
on x
Essentially none of Darios “time-lined warnings” have played out yet..
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@nate_taplin
Nathaniel Taplin
on x
I think @DavidSacks has the right of it. The idea that what we're seeing now represents a sudden outbreak of CSR at #OpenAI and #Anthropic strikes me as deeply improbable. Let's review. Besides the “AI safety
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@davidsacks
David Sacks
on x
Anthropic and OpenAI are already free to “pace the frontier” and should do so for business reasons, instead of first demanding a preferred regulatory framework
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@davidrbellamy
David Bellamy
on x
I must be among an extremely small group of people (n=1?) that have both 1) trained a frontier LLM and 2) designed and synthesized custom viruses in a lab with my own two hands. And I think that the takes on AI killing us all by creating dangerous viruses is total bogus.
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@ericxing
Eric Xing
on x
Well, I'd add one more with myself, as one with a PhD in biology and another PhD in AI and now working in both, to make n=2. Generating a hypothetical genome blueprint of a virus from LLM versus generating a true virus are completely different things. It is either an intentional …
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@cat_zakrzewski
Cat Zakrzewski
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House Speaker Mike Johnson said yesterday that he had talked to Trump about bringing AI leaders together for a meeting at the White House to discuss regulation. The Senate did that exactly three years ago, and nothing happened. Story from Sept. 13, 2023: https://www.washingtonpos…