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Sources: the NSA was red-teaming with Mythos 5 before losing access amid the Anthropic dispute; the tests showed Mythos can identify flaws in classified systems

A recent episode underscored the Trump administration's increasing reliance on advanced A.I. systems for cybersecurity even as it battles a leading U.S. developer.

New York Times

Context & Ripple Effects

Related coverage shows the NSA’s use of Anthropic’s Mythos had progressed from testing it against Microsoft and other widely used software to deploying Anthropic engineers alongside the agency for offensive cyber work. Separate reports also described use within the Defense Department despite Anthropic’s supply-chain-risk designation.

The reported loss of access therefore interrupts an already operational relationship, not a one-off evaluation. The testing result adds evidence that the model was useful against sensitive, classified environments as well as broadly deployed software.

First-order effects

  • The NSA loses access to a model it had been red-teaming for vulnerabilities in classified systems, potentially disrupting that specific testing workflow amid the dispute with Anthropic.
  • Anthropic’s government engagement is immediately constrained despite prior embedded-engineer support and reported use of its models across national-security organizations.

Second-order effects

  • The NSA and other Defense Department users may need to shift vulnerability-research workloads to alternative AI systems or internal tools, while reassessing how dependent sensitive cyber operations can be on a single commercial provider.
  • The episode raises the practical cost of policy or commercial disputes for agencies: a supplier’s access controls can affect active security testing even where the customer has already invested in deployment support.

Third-order effects

  • If advanced models continue to become embedded in cyber operations, government procurement will increasingly hinge on both model capability and durable control over access, support, and deployment terms.
  • The case points toward a more contested national-security AI market in which provider risk designations and government demand can coexist, creating recurring friction rather than a clean separation between approved and excluded vendors.

The trend: National-security agencies are moving advanced AI from evaluation into cyber workflows, making supplier governance and continuity of access as consequential as model performance.

Discussion

  • @scaling01 @scaling01 on x
    no surprise that the whole NSA story was complete clickbait bullshit
  • @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x
    Reuters has now added more context to last week's Mythos reporting. According to AP, Anthropic's Mythos model identified vulnerabilities in highly sensitive U.S. government computer systems during a testing exercise conducted with Washington's intelligence agencies. The tests [im…
  • @arekfurt @arekfurt on x
    Oh you bloody clowns. This is the substance behind that NSA/Mythos story? THIS?? “It had identified certain vulnerabilities within hours, but that does not mean the model was able to exploit them within that time, the official said.” https://apnews.com/...
  • @shashj Shashank Joshi on x
    Take note. “even though the N.S.A. did not experience the doomsday scenario some had feared, analysts at the spy agency were stunned by how capable Mythos appeared to be in controlled test settings, which exceeded already lofty expectations.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @uk_daniel_card @uk_daniel_card on x
    👀👀👀👀 👀 I need a beer ;) https://www.anthropic.com/... [image]
  • @timschnabel Tim Schnabel on x
    The NY Times now provides more context: https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @kevinbankston Kevin Bankston on x
    We are all less safe while defenders—even the NSA!—can't use Mythos to harden their systems https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • r/pwnhub r on reddit
    Mythos discovers ‘Squidbleed,’ a memory leak that's gone undetected since Clinton era