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• @steph_palazzolo Stephanie Palazzolo on x

  Breaking: Amazon CEO Andy Jassy was among the tech leaders who raised concerns to senior Trump officials this week re: security risks in Anthropic's newest models. Those convos set in motion the government's new export controls on foreign national access to Mythos and Fable. [ima…

• @quinnypig Corey Quinn on x

  I guess if Amazon can't win at AI, no one can?

• @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x

  It was in fact Amazon (CEO Andy Jassy) who reportedly helped trigger the Claude shutdown. Via The Information Amazon CEO Andy Jassy reportedly warned senior Trump administration officials about security risks in Anthropic's newest Claude models, helping trigger late-night export …

• @miles_brundage Miles Brundage on x

  The admin is going to keep leaking all sorts of details that make it sound, to a casual reader, like this was a reasonable decision. But there has been zero indicating that domain experts at CAISI or NSA were involved - all reporting points to “senior White House officials.”

• @amasad Amjad Masad on x

  Feels like we're getting psyoped. The end-game here is something bigger.

• @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x

  The next big beneficiary is, of course, OpenAI for two reasons. 1) IPO: OpenAI is concerned that Anthropic would preempt its IPO, resulting in a better valuation. And this was recently a likely scenario. This would have created the image of a second-rate competitor. Now, the [ima…

• @levie Aaron Levie on x

  Everyone thinks this is some kind of 4D chess or conspiracy. But it's quite standard to try and jailbreak AI models, and by definition they would share that research with the government given that's whole point. I don't think Amazon assumed this would be the next move.

• @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x

  There are only two possibilities: Either a solution is quickly found next week that somehow explains to the market how enterprises can continue to access Anthropic's best models in the future, in agreement with the US government, or: We foresee a rapid decline in the valuation

• @deredleritt3r Prinz on x

  @daniel_mac8 Amazon discovered a vulnerability that it believes is very serious. Amazon's legal was asked to opine on what to do. Amazon's legal opined that this must be disclosed to the USG. Alternatively, Amazon's legal opined that this *could* be disclosed to the USG, and comp…

• @daniel_mac8 Dan McAteer on x

  I don't like the smell of this. I remind you that Amazon: 1. Invested $13B in Anthropic 2. Is due $100B in committed AWS spend over the next decade from Anth What's the Occam's Razor explanation? Is Andy Jassy just that virtuous? Doubt it. [image]

• @zephyr_z9 @zephyr_z9 on x

  Amazon/AWS being a defence contractor was the main reason Based on what Axios has reported, USG didn't want the model to be released publicly Ant refused and they were/are using AWS infra to deploy it If a major cybersecurity incident occured, then Amazon would get sued

• @zephyr_z9 @zephyr_z9 on x

  Jassy was snitching DAYUM

• @chamath Chamath Palihapitiya on x

  Game theory from here is super interesting: Original Mags (Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Meta) now have a serious non-zero opportunity to tank the frontier labs. Go to the government, kneecap the labs' motion of putting the latest models out in the wild, become the trusted

• @edzitron Ed Zitron on x

  Is Amazon trying to kill Anthropic

• @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x

  1. WOW! Amazon is going to get some hate for this. 2. before judging myself I would love to know more about the nature and gravity of the exploits, and why these specific models were singled out, given that all LLMs are vulnerable.

• @kantrowitz Alex Kantrowitz on x

  Amazon invested $50 billion in OpenAI earlier this year

• @shakeelhashim Shakeel on x

  Sounds like Sean Cairncross was a lead decision maker here: https://www.theinformation.com/ ... [image]

• @theo @theo on x

  Wall Street Journal is reporting that Amazon reported the jailbreaks to the Department of Commerce, who instituted the ban [image]

• @aparker.io @aparker.io on bluesky

  we can't underestimate the possibility that this was a move by Amazon to prevent tokenmaxxing devs from bankrupting the company with fable usage  —  www.wsj.com/tech/ai/amaz...

• @peark.es George Pearkes on bluesky

  Andy Jassy a low key rat I see.  [image]

• @timkellogg.me Tim Kellogg on bluesky

  Amazon researchers snitched to the US government about a jailbreak that triggered a letter forcing Anthropic to shut down Fable 5  —  www.wsj.com/tech/ai/anth...  [image]

• r/politics r on reddit

  Amazon CEO's Talks With U.S. Officials Triggered Crackdown on Anthropic Models |  Information Andy Jassy shared with the Trump administration sparked an abrupt …

• r/BetterOffline r on reddit

  Amazon CEO's Talks With U.S. Officials Triggered Crackdown on Anthropic Models

• r/ClaudeCode r on reddit

  Amazon CEO's Talks With U.S. Officials, Triggered Crackdown on Anthropic Model Fable 5

• r/singularity r on reddit

  Amazon CEO's Talks With U.S. Officials, Triggered Crackdown on Anthropic Model Fable 5

• r/ClaudeAI r on reddit

  Amazon CEO Andy Jassy Reportedly Raised Concerns About Anthropic's AI Models Before Fable 5 Was Restricted

• @provisionalidea James Rosen-Birch on x

  reporting cyber risks to authorities is one thing, the weird piece is that it went straight to the Department of Commerce as opposed to the standard agencies (CISA, FBI, etc)

• @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x

  Crazy to see previously antiregulatory people suddenly fine with government shutdown of a company's showcase product with zero public transparency. Absent bipartisan and independent scientific oversight, the approach outlined below leaves (a) the government with too much room

• @budowich Taylor Budowich on x

  Anthropic developed what they defined as a cyber weapon, Mythos. Then they released Mythos to the world as “Fable.” The same model, but with guardrails to allow its commercial deployment. When the guardrails failed, they rejected calls to patch the vulnerabilities. Dario is

• @nxthompson @nxthompson on x

  Here is the gov's argument. Hard to evaluate whether the concern is justified—or just politics toward an American company this government often whacks—without the specifics of the jailbreak. Also not clear why they chose to regulate via a blunt and hard-to-follow export control.

• @drelidavid Dr. Eli David on x

  White House AI czar explains the Fable ban 👇 Anthropic f*cked around and found out.

• @levie Aaron Levie on x

  If you're ever wondered what AI regulation will look like if implemented, this is de facto what to expect on the current trajectory. If the government has control over what models eventually get released, then companies will spend months and months debating with the government

• @ashleevance Ashlee Vance on x

  None of this was some weeks long back and forth. I was at Anthropic's HQ on Friday reporting when this all unfolded. Dario is not at a wellness retreat. The Feds seemed to be scrambling to try and make an example of Anthropic again. This is not technical. It's petty.

• @basedjensen @basedjensen on x

  So sacks lied through his teeth once again to cover the admin

• @freespeech_ai John Coleman on x

  As a standalone issue, this has all the trappings of a free speech issue, not just a national security one. Everyone's access to an expressive tool was shut down by a letter from a government official.

• @catehall Cate Hall on x

  David Sacks: “those trying to misdirect and tie this action to the prior DoW/Anthropic issues are wrong” Pete Hegseth: hey you know what this is very much related to? [image]

• @sundeep Sunny Madra on x

  Thank you for sharing @DavidSacks

• @sriramk Sriram Krishnan on x

  On everyone asking about the events of the last 24 hours 👇

• @scobleizer Robert Scoble on x

  “The ball is in Anthropic's court.”

• @jrysana John on x

  Impressive and nuanced reply from David here. I respect it. I hope everything he's saying is true and if so I guess all the alarm overnight on here is maybe not so necessary.

• @arjunram Arjun Ram on x

  “The Admin asked Dario to fix the jailbreak or de-deploy the model. Dario refused. — In their blog post, Anthropic defended its decision by saying the jailbreak isn't serious” we need regulation but we will decide how we react to this? You can't have it both ways

• @semaforben Ben Smith on x

  Extent to which White House allies are signaling that this is a culture war issue, not a technical one, is striking

• @shakeelhashim Shakeel on x

  If this is true — big if — it mostly just exposes the need for an independent authority that can determine whether AI models are actually dangerous or not. Stuff this high stakes cannot be decided by an argument between Anthropic and Amazon.

• @autismcapital @autismcapital on x

  David Sacks claims that Anthropic was alerted to a jailbreak exploit that the USG asked them to patch and Dario Amodei refused, leading the USG to ban access to the Mythos class models. Why refuse to patch the exploit?

• @edzitron Ed Zitron on x

  Dario Amodei Elizabeth Holmes voice'd too close to the sun with his big promises and proclamations. And it's weird that the government seems to be saying that there was a jailbreak they wouldn't fix? I guess more reporting will come out, but seems Wario is pushing his luck

• @thomasschulzz Thomas Schulz on x

  tldr: - anthropic asks to be regulated - 3rd party finds jailbreak - USG asks Anthropic to fix it - Dario says no - USG bewildered, puts export control - anthropic pulls model anthropic promotes ai safety as their brand but won't fix a security vulnerability???

• @jason @jason on x

  Note: if users know in advance that they are being monitored during a test period, and they opt into that test, that's a private company's right — obviously. And this is actually standard practice in many fields. User can opt out of the testing period and just use the last

• @martin_casado @martin_casado on x

  “The Admin asked Dario to fix the jailbreak or de-deploy the model. Dario refused. — In their blog post, Anthropic defended its decision by saying the jailbreak isn't serious. ” This is crazy. What are we even doing here?

• @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x

  Interesting: According to David Sacks' opinion, the fault lies with Anthropic (specifically CEO Dario Amodei). He argues that: • Anthropic released Fable (Mythos with guardrails) but refused the U.S. government's reasonable request to fix a confirmed jailbreak that could

• @chamath Chamath Palihapitiya on x

  If a Treasurer of a Fortune 1000 company kept all of their cash in one bank they'd be fired for incompetence. Similarly, if the leadership of a Fortune 1000 company bets the farm on only one frontier lab and their models you're taking a lot of risk. This risk compounds as the

• @semianalysis_ @semianalysis_ on x

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• @andrewcurran_ Andrew Curran on x

  David Sacks: [image]

• @pstasiatech Paul Triolo on x

  The Admin's hope now is that Anthropic remediates the safety issue, the export control is lifted, and Fable goes back into general release. The Admin wants all of this to happen as soon as possible. It is frankly bewildered that Anthropic hasn't wanted to comply with safety

• @gmoneynft @gmoneynft on x

  Some clarity here

• @benpielstick Ben Pielstick on x

  It seems very likely to me that the non-compliance on the part of Anthropic the government perceives and is confused by from a safety-focused company, is because the government doesn't understand that what they're asking for is stupid and/or impossible.

• @apompliano Anthony Pompliano on x

  This post by @DavidSacks about the Anthropic/Fable situation is noteworthy, but not for the reason most people think. Put the details aside for a second. Anthropic released a blog post with their side of the story a few hours ago. David is responding with a bullet point list in

• @robj3d3 Rob Hallam on x

  Update on the Fable 5 situation: > Fable is basically a powerful “cyberweapon” model with safety locks on it > Someone found a way to pick those locks > The government asked Anthropic to fix it or pull the model > Anthropic said no and called the problem minor > So the

• @yuchenj_uw Yuchen Jin on x

  Anthropic called Mythos dangerous in its own safety statement. That statement is now the reason Fable 5 got banned by the US gov. Surprisingly, “Dario refused.” [image]

• @thechiefnerd @thechiefnerd on x

  David Sacks on How Anthropic is Ironically Running Surveillance on Their Latest Models “This is the company that said that it was against government surveillance. They are now retaining for 30 days every prompt and every output you send to one of these Mythos class models.” [vide…

• @self.agency Daniel Sieradski on bluesky

  is there more to the story here than just export controls as retaliation?  or is this just part of the a.i. hype cycle, creating a national security incident to fabulize the world-changing power of a.i. and the advancement of the u.s. in that arena?  if our govt weren't crooks, w…

• r/AllinPod r on reddit

  David Sacks On Fable Restriction

• @avi_eisen Avraham Eisenberg on x

  Black Mirror had an episode about a guy upset about a tech company and they couldn't reach the CEO for a bit because he was on a retreat Life imitates art imitates life (Smithereens) [image]

• @jdpeterson Josh Peterson on x

  Key line here: the NSA fact checked Amazon and found their findings credible. That means the jailbreak was serious enough that the National Security Agency gave it the thumbs down

• @ashleevance Ashlee Vance on x

  Anthropic has pushed AI forward dramatically over the past two years. It's currently the crown jewel of US AI tech. The Feds don't like @DarioAmodei because he won't do all their bidding. And so, we've now entering the Soviet-style propaganda portion of the program with the

• @andrewcurran_ Andrew Curran on x

  Interesting article with new details on the lead up to the export controls. Both sides are telling very different stories. Anthropic says they were given a 90 minute hard deadline to pull both models. The administration says their concerns were not taken seriously. [image]

• @sophiacai99 Sophia Cai on x

  NEW: Inside the 24-hrs before WH slapped export controls on Anthropic - Last Thursday, Amazon CEO Andy Jassy raised concerns about Fable jailbreak to Trump admin - Friday AM, Sean Cairncross, Bessent, Susie etc. held WH call to discuss - Then White House started reaching out

• @sophiacai99 Sophia Cai on x

  Anthropic denies that Amodei could not be reached on Friday because he was at a wellness retreat. “That is absolutely false,” an Anthropic spokesperson said. Anthropic said Amodei was first requested around noon and was on the phone with senior officials within an hour and 15

• @anthropicai @anthropicai on x

  The US government, citing national security authorities, has issued an export control directive to suspend all access to Fable 5 and Mythos 5 by any foreign national, whether inside or outside the United States, including foreign national Anthropic employees.  The net effect of t…

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  I can't tell if this is lawfare against Anthropic in particular or extreme national-security hawkery. Regardless, it is simply cartoonish. [image]

• @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x

  Where is the US with respect to AI policy? It's a mess. Let's start with Trump's Executive Order from June 2, and then turn to last night's Commerce order; neither gets things right. It's fantastic that Trump has issued an executive order that encourages AI companies to do some

• @teroterotero Tero Kuittinen on x

  I can't say I saw this coming. But I do know now that AI companies will be nationalized in America & Trump family will control access to the emerging, weakly godlike entities. This is the darkest path for humanity.

• @thezvi Zvi Mowshowitz on x

  There is only one way and Anthropic did it.

• @polymarketmoney @polymarketmoney on x

  JUST IN: Andrej Karpathy, a top AI scientist at Anthropic, is reportedly barred from accessing the company's most advanced AI model because he is not a U.S. citizen. [image]

• @krispuckett Kris Puckett on x

  @petergyang KYC coming for all models I bet. Valid US ID. Surely this won't hold up in court, right??

• @petergyang Peter Yang on x

  Suspending Fable for all “foreign person inside the US” is wild. How can you even enforce this properly?

• Peter Swire Peter Swire on linkedin

  As reported, the new U.S. export control on Anthropic's Mythos is a gigantic mistake.  Perhaps the single most important use of this AI …

• @fabiochiusi Fabio Chiusi on bluesky

  “the order limiting who can use Anthropic's technology is unusually expansive, and could in theory block Anthropic employees who are citizens of allied nations like Canada or Britain from working on it”  —  www.nytimes.com/2026/06/12/t...

• r/europe r on reddit

  Anthropic Blocks Foreigners From Using Mythos and Fable AI

• @meryemarik9 Meryem Arik on x

  Europe should immediately pause / revoke the EU AI act. Don't give European companies another reason to move slower than they should in adoption. Re-write AI regulations in a few years once we actually know what we are regulating for.

• @mikebutcher Mike Butcher on x

  Someone who know what they are talking about.

• @jujulemons Julia Willemyns on x

  The UK commentariat will spend this week deluded about the Anthropic situation. “It's just Trump.” “It's a one-off.” “We can build our own.” “We don't want or need crappy American AI anyway.” None of it holds up. US has been using AI as a geopolitical lever since 2022. Chip

• @antirez @antirez on x

  What Europe should do right now: 1. Call all the European researchers working on AI and return them back with same salary (or they can stay but switch career). 2. Fill EU places having GPUs with money, and put those people there. 3. AI partnerships with China + India.

• @alistairpullen Alistair on x

  This is exactly why we @CosineAI are using the compute provided to us by @UKSovereignAI to build a large frontier model trained in Britain. This export control is the first instance of it's kind but, I think it's going to become increasingly common as the models improve.

• @alistaircarns Al Carns on x

  This week the most advanced AI model on the planet got switched off by a foreign government. British researchers were studying it. British companies were testing it. British hospitals were piloting it. Not any more. This isn't an AI story. It's the story of every industry we

• @geertwilderspvv Geert Wilders on x

  I want my #Anthropic Claude Fable 5 back! We must excellerate building our own. AI is more and more national sovereignty. [image]

• @tomtugendhat Tom Tugendhat on x

  Disabling Fable 5 and other models for foreigners is not a misunderstanding or a mistake, it's the inevitable result of technology shaping warfare so that sovereignty is more about code than cannons. With high energy costs and the emphasis on safety not opportunity Britain's

• r/EU_Economics r on reddit

  ‘Wake-up call’: Europe reacts to Anthropic halting access to its Fable 5 and Mythos 5 AI models

• @svembu Sridhar Vembu on x

  This is big: all access to Mythos and Fable AI models disabled for everyone outside America. First thoughts: 1. Technology is the ultimate weapon. National sovereignty, national security, all of it is now about technology. 2. Globalization is dead and Bharat must find her

• @tvmohandaspai Mohandas Pai on x

  PM @narendramodi Sir we need an India AI Mission under you with @NandanNilekani as vice chair and others from the private sector and govt. to Help India tackle the AI Revolution. We are way behind and need a national mission to get going quickly. Existing govt programs are too

• r/india r on reddit

  As Anthropic suspends access to new models, India debates its AI future

• @signulll @signulll on x

  contrary to the default reaction on this little website, this is absolutely incredible news for anthropic. i mean obviously yes, the operational disruption is real. but public & world perception wise, this could not be a bigger home run. could be a grand slam type situation.

• @luke_metro @luke_metro on x

  spare your AI models from export control restrictions with this one weird trick [image]

• @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x

  Wait - so Amazon, one of Anthropic's biggest investors, allegedly jailbroke Claude and then snitched to the U.S. government? This cant be real. What.

• @quinnypig Corey Quinn on x

  @edzitron I maintain that this is doing Anthropic a favor.

• @anistotle_ @anistotle_ on x

  @edzitron How many times do I have to tell you people to heed the words of DJ Khaled. No new friends!!!

• @edzitron Ed Zitron on x

  This is so wild. Deliberate strategic move by Amazon? Or Mr. Bean style goofiness that cuts weirdly with the scaremongering marketing campaign? Who knows!

• @k8em0 Katie Moussouris on bluesky

  I've seen the paper.  It's not a jailbreak.  It was Defense Oriented Prompting (DOP) - a capability defenders need.  My thoughts about the hasty Export Controls that made Anthropic halt access to Fable.  If national defense is the goal, this is an own goal against us  —  www.wsj.…

• r/politics r on reddit

  Anthropic Halts Access to Top AI Models After U.S. Ban on Foreign Use

• @ashleevance Ashlee Vance on x

  Took them a whole 24 hours to come up with this line. 😂 You'd think they would have led with this in all the leaks [image]

• @ashleevance Ashlee Vance on x

  And this is why we can't have nice things China doesn't even have to try

• @simonw Simon Willison on x

  I'm just glad nobody at the US government thought to try that Fable 5 “jailbreak” against Opus 4.x or GPT 5.x, or I wouldn't be getting anything useful done this weekend at all

• @scaling01 @scaling01 on x

  the admin says whatever suits them, because they are used to no consequences they don't like Anthropic because they actually have a spine and will stand up to them unlike OpenAI who takes any bone the admin throws them Greggy being the 2nd largest Trump admin supporter also

• @deredleritt3r Prinz on x

  @deanwball We also apparently have unwritten rules that frontier models can't be trained outside the U.S. This state of affairs probably won't persist for long, and it will probably be up to this administration and the upcoming edition of Congress to enshrine an actual written le…

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  Make no mistake: post-Mythos, the United States has a licensing regime for AI. It's just informal, with no consistent rules or firm boundaries on state power or public transparency. Cobalt mining in the Congo is vastly more institutionalized than frontier AI licensing in the US.

• @scaling01 @scaling01 on x

  yeah really tough decision who to believe > the adminstration that supports pedophiles, nazis, genocide and insider trading > or the guy with a PhD from Princeton who built AGI if you believe a single word the Trump admin says you really have 0 cogsec

• @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x

  Calling it now: if this turns out to be true, he won't remain Anthropic CEO for much longer. However, Anthropic denies it. [image]

• r/fednews r on reddit

  Inside the whirlwind 24 hours that led the White House to slap export controls on Anthropic

• r/amazonemployees r on reddit

  Jassy screwed Anthropic by ratting to Fed Govt. source: Politico

• @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x

  America has become a laughingstock. Whatever you may think of Dario or Anthropic, Friday's decision, and the impetuousness and arbitrariness of it, was a terrible mistake that has left a stain that will last. Washington needs to fix this.

• @brokentoys.social Lum on bluesky

  so the admin is leaking (and almost certainly lying) to politico about the anthropic shutdown which means they're taking some heat over it

• r/europe r on reddit

  ‘Wake-up call’: Europe reacts to Anthropic halting access to its Fable 5 and Mythos 5 AI models

• Leif-Nissen Lundbæk, PhD Leif-Nissen Lundbæk, PhD on linkedin

  Sovereignty matters.  —  The time of „it will never happen" is over.  —  We need European digital sovereignty more than ever before. …

• @thezvi Zvi Mowshowitz on x

  This is why you don't let founders quit. @JeffBezos would never.

• @davidsacks David Sacks on x

  David Sacks says Dario Amodei refused to “fix the jailbreak or de-deploy the model” after “a highly credible trusted partner” reported a Fable jailbreak