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Sources: DeepSeek is in talks to raise $3B to $4B led by China's national AI fund, valuing DeepSeek at up to $50B

Chinese AI startup DeepSeek could be valued at up to $50 billion in its maiden fundraising drive, three sources said, as the large language model builder seeks to reverse …

Reuters

Context & Ripple Effects

Related coverage traces a rapid escalation in DeepSeek’s first external-financing effort: reports moved from a much smaller minimum target in April to multibillion-dollar fundraising discussions, followed by reports of Tencent, CATL and state-backed capital participating.

The financing push sits alongside reported plans to expand infrastructure, develop an inference chip that could lessen dependence on Nvidia and Huawei hardware, and prepare for a China IPO. That makes the investor mix as consequential as the valuation discussion.

First-order effects

  • If completed, the round would give DeepSeek substantial capital for infrastructure and model development while bringing China’s national AI fund into a central investor role.
  • A state-backed lead investor would align DeepSeek more closely with domestic AI-industrial priorities as it pursues its first outside funding.

Second-order effects

  • Tencent’s reported investment talks and later reports involving CATL suggest the round could assemble a broader domestic strategic-investor group, rather than leave DeepSeek dependent on a single financial backer.
  • More capital for DeepSeek’s infrastructure and reported chip work could increase demand for domestic AI compute alternatives, while sharpening pressure on other Chinese model builders to secure comparable funding and hardware access.

Third-order effects

  • If successive funding and valuation reports translate into completed rounds, China’s leading AI-model companies may increasingly be financed through combinations of state-backed funds and domestic strategic corporations, tying model competition more tightly to compute and semiconductor policy.
  • DeepSeek’s reported IPO planning and effort to reduce hardware dependence point to a more vertically integrated Chinese AI stack, though execution of both fundraising and chip development remains uncertain.

The trend: This is one data point in the consolidation of Chinese AI around heavily financed domestic model platforms with increasingly strategic control over infrastructure and chips.

Discussion

  • @drdomicile @drdomicile on x
    id be surprised if tencent ends up investing. presumably theyre “still in talks” because they want to negotiate wenfeng's terms. lets see who budges first
  • @jukan05 Jukan on x
    FT: DeepSeek is in talks for its first fundraising round at a valuation of around $45 billion. FT: China's largest state-backed semiconductor investment fund, which has invested in YMTC and CXMT, is in talks to lead DeepSeek's fundraising round. [image]
  • @hsu_steve Steve Hsu on x
    FT published this ownership diagram for DeepSeek, whose valuation is said to near $50B recent fundraising negotiations. I asked DS v4 who these people are: Based on the ownership structure diagram you shared, the four individuals—Liang Wenfeng, Chen Zhe, Li Huan, and Zheng [image…
  • @zijing_wu Zijing Wu on x
    @jukan05 He currently has 89.5%. Won't be diluted much. See chart in the story. [image]
  • @odysseus0z George on x
    BTW still cheaper than Cursor
  • @teortaxestex @teortaxestex on x
    Wait, whoa, I didn't know! According to FT, Chen Deli holds ≈2.5% of DeepSeek! I missed it because I've never seen the «Chen Zhe» (陈哲 vs 陈德里) variant. This explains a lot, eg why he gets to vaguepost on XHS about the upcoming roleplay support, and speak for their policy. [image]
  • @teortaxestex @teortaxestex on x
    Reasonable. DeepSeek is, fundamentally, a semiconductor project as well, most just don't see it yet. By the way, CXMT & YMTC were once put on Pentagon's Section 1260H (seem removed now). The problem will be utilizing this capital, because they sure ain't getting any Hoppers.
  • @jukan05 Jukan on x
    @zijing_wu Do you know how much Liang plans to invest? Also, what will happen to Liang's voting rights after this funding round?
  • @zijing_wu Zijing Wu on x
    Scoop: DeepSeek nears $45bn valuation as China's ‘Big Fund’ leads investment talks * Valuation surges vs initial $20+bn * Liang could personally invest * Investors are betting on commercialisation potential ie strong coding despite lack of biz model https://www.ft.com/...
  • @afrazhaowang Afra Wang on x
    deepseek's latest valuation is ~$40b+, and for context: zhipu at $50b, minimax at $30b. meanwhile, openai at $850b, anthropic at a wild $1t. because of capital market disadvantages, chinese ai labs are trading at a fraction of us ai companies. almost 30-50x cheaper..
  • @afinetheorem Kevin A. Bryan on x
    Caveat: the Chinese firms are raising at like 3x the value to revenue as the US ones. Maybe makes sense but the OS business model is much less clear than for Ali or Huawei or Baidu, so some of these valuations are “govt linked investors maximizing something else than profits.”
  • @kyleichan Kyle Chan on x
    DeepSeek founder Liang Wenfeng might be personally worth over $40 billion, which would make him one of the 10 richest people in China (if these estimates are correct).
  • @kyleichan Kyle Chan on x
    China's state-backed national investment fund for semiconductors (Big Fund phase III) is in talks to invest in DeepSeek at $45 billion valuation. Would likely be via the $8.8 billion National AI Industry Investment Fund established early last year.👇
  • @basedjensen @basedjensen on x
    Whale with billions to spend is going to be a serious threat to other labs
  • @ruima Rui Ma on x
    This makes sense. Takes care of valuation signaling, capital injection and natsec all at once and also with DeepSeek V4 optimization for Huawei chips, it is as much a semiconductor play / disruption as it is a model one 👀 But do you think it's fairly valued?