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Sources: Apple and Google are in active talks to use Gemini to power some new iPhone features in 2024; Apple also held talks with OpenAI to use its models

- Companies considering AI deal that would build on search pact  — Apple also recently held discussions with OpenAI about deal

Bloomberg Mark Gurman

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  • @markgurman Mark Gurman on x
    BREAKING NEWS: Apple and Google are in discussions for Gemini to power Generative AI features coming to the iPhone with iOS 18 this year. Apple also recently held talks with OpenAI on a deal. https://www.bloomberg.com/...
  • @tomgara Tom Gara on x
    A lot of people really embarrassed themselves by declaring Google dead in the water a couple of weeks ago
  • @charlesarthur Charles Arthur on x
    Tim Cook to Sundar Pichai: “so, how much will you pay us to be the AI engine on our phones?” Pichai: “sorry? Us pay *you* to use *our* technology?” Cook: “oh damn, Sam Altman's calling, won't be a minute” Pichai: “shall we start at $5 billion?” Cook: “per quarter, right?”
  • @suhail @suhail on x
    They were indeed asleep. [image]
  • @divestech Dan Ives on x
    This potential Google strategic partnership is a missing piece in the Apple AI strategy and combines forces with Google for Gemini to power some of the AI features Apple is bringing to market. For 🍎 this will give them the foundation/blueprint to double down on AI features🍎🔥
  • @joannastern Joanna Stern on x
    Did not have Giant Apple / Google deal on my 2024 Bingo card.
  • @jamestitcomb James Titcomb on x
    This would suggest Apple and Google are pretty confident that US courts aren't about to break up their $18bn/year search arrangement
  • @minimaxir Max Woolf on x
    Neither Google nor OpenAI's infra could handle the potential scale of Apple's userbase, given the scaling issues both companies are having. Even Google doesn't have enough GPUs.
  • @nickadobos Nick Dobos on x
    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
  • @kakashiii111 @kakashiii111 on x
    Well, I guess they are not ready with their own model of Siri AI (who would have thought?) and they must present a Generative AI; if not, investors will punish them.
  • @boredatgym @boredatgym on x
    So Apple just gave up on generative AI??? Useless
  • @maximlott Maxim Lott on x
    Embarrassing for Apple to have to turn to Google as its AI provider. Google's Gemini is the most left-wing, woke AI: https://trackingai.org/
  • @parmy Parmy Olson on x
    Why this makes sense for Apple: 1) Go with the devil it knows 2) Distance itself from the liability of building something that hallucinates and appears too ‘woke’ Also shows that building anything as good as GPT-4 is way harder than businesses realize.
  • @psythor James O'Malley on x
    Holy cow, I guess Apple really is lagging behind with LLMs.
  • @nathanwchan Nate Chan on x
    Someone explain to me... What was the point of this then???? [image]
  • @smtuffy Sean Tuffy on x
    Who wants this?
  • @lutherlowe Luther Lowe on x
    I imagine this to be on the table as part of the remedy in US v Google after Google's (expected) loss.
  • @markgurman Mark Gurman on x
    Apple will have several new AI features based on its own, homegrown models. But they'll be using a partner — whether it ends up being Google, or OpenAI — to power generative AI features. A deal would be reminiscent of the Apple and Google search engine partnership.
  • @aifray @aifray on x
    The mobile operating system duopoly sharing the same AI technology provided by one of them would be the clearest case for #antitrust intervention yet in the entire AI partnering context. Smartphones are going to be the main point of entry into the AI world for billions of users.
  • @zollotech Aaron Zollo on x
    Can't say I saw that partnership coming...
  • @florian4gamers Florian Mueller on x
    Recently there may have been signs of Google disagreeing with *some* of Apple's iOS walled garden policies. But in the past this “cartelopoly” always solved the problem with money, as the DOJ v. Google trial in the U.S. showed. Now they may team up on AI, where Apple is behind.
  • @jezcorden Jez on x
    Duopolies gonna duopoly.
  • @wavesblog Simonetta Vezzoso on x
    Antitrust/regulatory ‘risks’ factored into the business decision: a very complex picture for Apple and its potential AI partners. DMA's take: as long as those AI tools aim to enhance the usage of the operating system, they should be considered to form part of that CPS.
  • @samwillis Sam Willis on x
    I hope this isn't the case. Apple is our best hope for local AI and data ownership. The amount of personal data that will be ingested into cloud hosted AI is not good for society. We are in danger of repeating the mistake of the user data mining ad supported internet.
  • @sawyermerritt Sawyer Merritt on x
    NEWS: Apple is in talks to build Google's Gemini artificial intelligence engine into the iPhone, setting the stage for a blockbuster agreement - Bloomberg https://www.bloomberg.com/...
  • @mitsuhiko Armin Ronacher on x
    Maybe Apple should have used their war chest to invest into AI rather than fighting the EU.
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    Apple Is in Talks to Add Google's Gemini AI to Power iPhone Generative AI Features
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    Apple Is in Talks to Let Google's Gemini Power iPhone Generative AI Features
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    Apple Is in Talks to Let Google's Gemini Power iPhone Generative AI Features
  • r/NVDA_Stock r on reddit
    BREAKING: Apple just INDIRECTLY signed up with NVIDIA
  • r/singularity r on reddit
    Apple Is in Talks to Let Google's Gemini Power iPhone Generative AI Features