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An interview with CEO Dylan Field on scaling Figma, selling the company to Adobe, retaining autonomy, WebGL, making VR Figma for the metaverse, AGI, and more

We also talk about AI and VR — but we know why you're here. … Dylan Field is the co-founder and CEO of Figma

The Verge Nilay Patel

Context & Ripple Effects

This interview lands mid-arc: two months after Adobe agreed to buy Figma for $20B — a price Shantanu Narayen defended in a later interview on the acquisitionDylan Field is publicly explaining why he sold while insisting Figma keeps its autonomy. The bull case he is implicitly defending was laid out by Hunter Walk's analysis of Figma's $400M ARR doubling and the pricing pressure it put on Adobe's franchise.

Field also sketches what an independent Figma would build next: a WebGL-based product direction and a VR version aimed at the metaverse, alongside his views on AI and AGI. That independence question resolves in the later coverage, where Field discusses managing the company after the failed sale and deploying the $1B breakup fee into expansion.

First-order effects

  • Adobe's $20B bet now hinges on integration promises rather than product control — Field's insistence on retained autonomy is the answer to regulators and customers asking whether Figma stays Figma.
  • Figma's own roadmap (WebGL, a metaverse-oriented VR client) gets articulated publicly while the company is still technically headed into Adobe ownership, setting expectations Field will be held to either way.

Second-order effects

  • If the deal collapses, the negotiated breakup fee converts directly into war chest for an independent expansion push — which is exactly how Field frames the aftermath in the follow-up coverage.
  • Adobe faces the scenario its pricing pressure created: competing against a fully funded, autonomous Figma rather than absorbing it, forcing product responses in the design-tool market.

Third-order effects

  • The pattern points toward creative software unbundling: web-native, collaboration-first tools growing large enough that incumbents must pay $20B-scale premiums to acquire them — or face them as rivals.
  • Field's AGI commentary positions design tools as surfaces that AI will reshape regardless of who owns them, making the buyer-vs-builder decision a recurring one for every workflow incumbent.

The trend: Design software is consolidating around independent, web-native platforms whose growth forces incumbents like Adobe into billion-dollar acquisition attempts that may fail without stopping the underlying unbundling.

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  • @hdarshane @hdarshane on x
    https://www.theverge.com/... visible technical acumen, knows how to dodge tricky questions, not afraid to make bold statements, not overly optimistic. simply put, The Ideal founder.