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Microsoft, the DOJ, and 35 US states led by Utah filed amicus briefs with the Ninth Circuit appeals court largely supporting Epic Games in its Apple case

you know things like iPhones, Macs, and Watches. (And some iPads too!) https://www.techmeme.com/... But hey, why let the facts get in the way of a tweet. https://twitter.com/... Michael Love / @elkmovie : Also the DOJ and a whole bunch of extremely prominent antitrust law professors. But the fact that Microsoft filed a brief *in support of antitrust restrictions on another tech company* feels historically significant in a way none of those other ones are. https://twitter.com/... Mark Rein / @markrein : “The district court committed several legal errors that could imperil effective antitrust enforcement, especially in the digital economy,” according to the filing. https://twitter.com/... @carnage4life : Apple made $123B last quarter. All over the world governments are realizing they're doing this by obscenely taxing and constraining innovation on the App Store. Microsoft at its greediest, “cut off their air supply” days had nothing on Apple today. https://www.bloomberg.com/... @keleftheriou : “It will probably be easy to see for the Ninth Circuit that those who support Epic do so because it's the right and necessary thing to do, while those who will support Apple are just going to have reasons to do Apple a favor.” https://www.fosspatents.com/ ... https://twitter.com/... @keleftheriou : “Epic's appeal is very much alive.” “[Apple] won't be able to counterbalance the support Epic received from 35 states, Microsoft, the EFF, and America's most cited and most authoritative antitrust law professor.” 👏 https://www.fosspatents.com/ ... Michael Acton / @macton93 : @Apple allies will file their briefs at a later date. Volume of submissions - and their tone - goes to show how crucial this #antitrust case is seen to be, and how polarising it is. Michael Acton / @macton93 : @Microsoft now. Not a surprise given one of their execs testified at trial Michael Acton / @macton93 : #EpicvApple story is heating up today Deadline for briefs in support of @EpicNewsroom's appeal of its court loss. And it's a fair haul, with 7 hours left for more filings (looking at you, state AGs) 50+ academics, @ConsumerFed, @Public_Citizen, plus @appfairness members. Michael Acton / @macton93 : Now, at last, US state attorneys-general have filed their support. Remember they are suing @Google on similar grounds, so they have an interest in overturning the @Apple judgment. https://twitter.com/... Thanks: @fosspatents

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  • @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x
    Of course Apple makes more money than any other company ever. Much of the money they're making isn't rightly theirs! They're taking it from consumers and smaller companies by imposing a monopoly and a tax on app distribution and payments. https://www.inc.com/...
  • @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x
    @MarcTech1996 A majority of state attorneys general disagree with that interpretation of the law. https://arstechnica.com/...
  • @neilcybart Neil Cybart on x
    I wonder who the audience for these tweets are. Android users don't talk or think like this. Disenchanted iOS developers who still use Apple products?
  • @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x
    Then there's the brilliant insight that if you don't like the three trillion dollar vertically integrated monopoly that's strangling all facets of the digital economy, “just build your own three trillion dollar monopoly LOL”.
  • @neilcybart Neil Cybart on x
    If you didn't know who this was, you would assume it was your typical misinformed Apple troll on Twitter. https://twitter.com/...
  • @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x
    So many tweets today are making the case for an all-powerful tyrant to protect each of us from ourselves and tax us all to pay for it. These bozos deserve to live in the world for they advocate for. The rest of us don't.
  • @macton93 Michael Acton on x
    US Department of Justice has now filed, but it is not officially siding with either @EpicNewsroom or @Apple It thinks there's a flaw in the application of the Sherman Act. https://twitter.com/...
  • @marctech1996 Marc on x
    This is really embarrassing. Under current law there is nothing illegal about what Apple is doing. Should some laws change? Absolutely. Should Tim Epic be the one dictating what is right or wrong? Absolutely f***ing not. Also way to go complaining about bad business practices... …
  • @chancehmiller Chance Miller on x
    I mean the App Store makes a lot of money, but nearly 85% of Apple's revenue for Q1 2022 came from hardware. Obviously the margin is higher on Services, but saying that 'much of the money they're making isn't rightfully theirs' doesn't seem fair. https://twitter.com/...
  • @om @om on x
    Well, last I checked they are making most of their money from selling hardware — you know things like iPhones, Macs, and Watches. (And some iPads too!) https://www.techmeme.com/... But hey, why let the facts get in the way of a tweet. https://twitter.com/...
  • @elkmovie Michael Love on x
    Also the DOJ and a whole bunch of extremely prominent antitrust law professors. But the fact that Microsoft filed a brief *in support of antitrust restrictions on another tech company* feels historically significant in a way none of those other ones are. https://twitter.com/...
  • @markrein Mark Rein on x
    “The district court committed several legal errors that could imperil effective antitrust enforcement, especially in the digital economy,” according to the filing. https://twitter.com/...
  • @carnage4life @carnage4life on x
    Apple made $123B last quarter. All over the world governments are realizing they're doing this by obscenely taxing and constraining innovation on the App Store. Microsoft at its greediest, “cut off their air supply” days had nothing on Apple today. https://www.bloomberg.com/...
  • @keleftheriou @keleftheriou on x
    “It will probably be easy to see for the Ninth Circuit that those who support Epic do so because it's the right and necessary thing to do, while those who will support Apple are just going to have reasons to do Apple a favor.” https://www.fosspatents.com/ ... https://twitter.com/…
  • @keleftheriou @keleftheriou on x
    “Epic's appeal is very much alive.” “[Apple] won't be able to counterbalance the support Epic received from 35 states, Microsoft, the EFF, and America's most cited and most authoritative antitrust law professor.” 👏 https://www.fosspatents.com/ ...
  • @macton93 Michael Acton on x
    @Apple allies will file their briefs at a later date. Volume of submissions - and their tone - goes to show how crucial this #antitrust case is seen to be, and how polarising it is.
  • @macton93 Michael Acton on x
    @Microsoft now. Not a surprise given one of their execs testified at trial
  • @macton93 Michael Acton on x
    #EpicvApple story is heating up today Deadline for briefs in support of @EpicNewsroom's appeal of its court loss. And it's a fair haul, with 7 hours left for more filings (looking at you, state AGs) 50+ academics, @ConsumerFed, @Public_Citizen, plus @appfairness members.
  • @macton93 Michael Acton on x
    Now, at last, US state attorneys-general have filed their support. Remember they are suing @Google on similar grounds, so they have an interest in overturning the @Apple judgment. https://twitter.com/...