Sources: a group of Facebook data scientists asked for resources to measure COVID misinfo on Facebook at the start of the pandemic, but execs denied the request
The company doesn't know some specifics about how falsehoods about Covid-19 and vaccines for the virus spread on its social network.
Context & Ripple Effects
Early in the pandemic, the White House sought platforms’ help to combat and track COVID-19 misinformation. By July, Facebook’s handling of the issue had drawn a DC attorney general subpoena for internal documents and criticism following meetings with Biden officials.
The reported refusal to fund measurement helps explain why Facebook could not answer key questions about the spread of COVID and vaccine falsehoods. Later coverage of a previously shelved transparency report put the reach of vaccine-doubt content back at the center of scrutiny.
First-order effects
- Facebook’s executives face a clearer accountability gap: internal researchers reportedly sought measurement capacity that the company did not provide while COVID misinformation was spreading.
- Regulators and federal officials pressing Facebook for evidence gain a concrete basis to question the company’s visibility into its own enforcement problem.
Second-order effects
- Facebook’s later actions against alleged vaccine-misinformation superspreaders are harder to assess without the measurement work researchers requested, shifting attention from takedown counts to evidence of reach and impact.
- Content-transparency reporting becomes more consequential for Facebook because external scrutiny is filling an information gap that internal measurement might have addressed.
Third-order effects
- The episode points to platform governance in which decisions to resource internal research become a central test of whether companies can substantiate their public safety claims under regulatory pressure.
The trend: COVID misinformation scrutiny is shifting from demands for content removals toward demands that platforms measure, disclose, and defend the effectiveness of their interventions.
Related: Facebook · DC AG subpoenas Facebook over COVID misinformation · Facebook releases shelved COVID transparency report · Facebook acts against vaccine misinformation superspreaders · Biden officials raise concerns with Facebook
Related Coverage
- View article Ars Technica
- View article The Hill
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Discussion
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@sheeraf
Sheera Frenkel
on x
NEW - There is a reason Facebook cannot give the White House the data they want on Covid misinformation. They don't have it. https://www.nytimes.com/...
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@qjurecic
Quinta Jurecic
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Generally I think comparisons between FB and the government are misplaced, but they're useful here: if a government decided to just not keep records on some kind of public health hazard, that wouldn't be acceptable either https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/...
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@justinhendrix
Justin Hendrix
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Devastating new report from @sheeraf: At the beginning of the pandemic, Facebook data scientists had a plan to figure out how many users saw false or misleading health info that would require time and money. The plan was never approved. https://www.nytimes.com/...
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@evelyndouek
Evelyn Douek
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At some point, it becomes willful blindness. You can't just track the good stuff. https://twitter.com/...
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@charlie_white
Charles T. White
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This is what happens when we give control of our country's stupid people to the clueless robot Zuckerberg, who is programmed to be greedy with a lust for power: https://twitter.com/...
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@justinhendrix
Justin Hendrix
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Facebook employs hundreds of social scientists and data scientists. It simply did not prioritize this.
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@gregbensinger
@gregbensinger
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Importantly, however, they've perfected measuring ad impressions https://twitter.com/...
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@ct_bergstrom
Carl T. Bergstrom
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All I've seen by way of focus on outcomes is Guy Rosen's lazy comparison between absolute rates in facebook users and non-users. No causal inference, not even an effort to find adequate comparison groups. Facebook has some of the best data scientists in the world and we get this?…
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@moonalice
Roger McNamee
on x
Ugh. They White House asked the wrong question, creating an opportunity for FB to string the process out beyond the attention span of policy makers and journalists. https://twitter.com/...
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@karaswisher
Kara Swisher
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If I am reading this right, the company that has all the data when it comes to selling you comfy slippers does not have the data when it comes to COVID disinformation? https://www.nytimes.com/...
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@gretchenspeters
Gretchen Peters
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I disagree it is a blind spot @sheeraf. It's willful negligence. It's a conscious decision not to look too closely. #FB Insiders have told me this over and over. https://www.nytimes.com/...
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@aricohn
Ari Cohn
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There's also a reason they shouldn't: Social media platforms shouldn't hand over data to the government unless legally compelled to. https://twitter.com/...
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@diakayyali
@diakayyali
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This except I think increasingly the comparisons are not misplaced and this is a reminder of why- because they're making life and death decisions. https://twitter.com/...
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@wrklsshrd
Sam Jeffers
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@ShiraOvide I have sympathy with all this - it's difficult stuff for sure - but the electoral fraud and Q stuff would surely have highlighted the need for a methodology...
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@ceciliakang
Cecilia Kang
on x
Astounding and great reporting from @sheeraf. This is adds to what we discovered in AN UGLY TRUTH https://twitter.com/...
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@orientaljanedoe
Jane Chung
on x
that VP, Guy Rosen, was co-founder of Onavo, a VPN company Facebook acquired in 2013 after it was reported the VPN part was just a trojan horse, and that Facebook's goal all along was to steal troves of users' data, Facebook pulled the plug so that's what Integrity means to FB ht…
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@shiraovide
Shira Ovide
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What if Facebook had just said that out loud: Misinformation is hard to define and harder to measure and we don't know the numbers. (People would scream if Facebook said this and ask why Facebook weren't trying harder but the truth is a good start, no?) https://twitter.com/...
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@klonick
Kate Klonick
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& I'm not saying that's a GOOD thing or that they should continue not collecting that info going forward, but it does mean that I maybe believe them—for the very reasons we criticize them! ie being only $$ driven—when they say they put zero dollars into collecting this 2/2
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@samred
@samred
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Ars was already warning people in March 2020 about vaccine misinfo campaigns: https://arstechnica.com/... & https://arstechnica.com/... This report points to right around that time in history. And, welp, it looks really, really bad for FB. https://twitter.com/...
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@frankrebecca
Rebecca Frank
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They say this, and yet they claim to have the most sophisticated ad targeting system in the world that can paint a three dimensional picture of any person for an advertiser. I can't decide which one I want to be the lie... https://twitter.com/...
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@justinhendrix
Justin Hendrix
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Facebook issued a detailed rebuttal on Saturday to the White House allegation that social media companies are “killing people” with misinformation about vaccines. This report would suggest that rebuttal was issued with no actual knowledge of the scale of the problem.
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@heidiotoo
HeidiO
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.@finkd can't bring himself to spend what would amount to a handful of pennies- for him- to save millions of us from dying. He knew there was a problem, he knew there was a way to gather the info needed to stop a disinfo-demic but he chose not to spend money on that. #FuckZuck ht…
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@ct_bergstrom
Carl T. Bergstrom
on x
More bullshit from Facebook. Just “supported by the facts” line is mighty convenient when you are in sole possession of the information needed to ascertian them. https://twitter.com/...
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@justinhendrix
Justin Hendrix
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It's not that the data isn't there- it's that it's not structured to be accessible to managers. Basically like selling cigarettes with no knowledge of the ingredients.
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@ramaswmysridhar
Sridhar Ramaswamy
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@ShiraOvide These problems are not as hard as we make them out to be. You start with an eval guideline and template. You then settle on a methodology (3/5 agreement, for example). You can then give precision/recall numbers by calibrating against an expert panel.
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@klonick
Kate Klonick
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But (& hear me out) this makes sense if you know how targeted advertising works which is matching a slipper ad to a batch of anonymized user profiles who might buy slippers Collecting data on who viewed COVID disinfo doesn't seem like something they'd want/need to collect 1/ http…
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@jason_kint
Jason Kint
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Brutal. What an abhorrent leadership failure. Time and $$$ were a requirement? This plus a reminder on Rosen's surveillance app role in last ten minutes. Press are digging in. White House just pointed towards the toxic leadership garbage dump and someone threw a match on it. http…
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@dispositive
Gautam Hans
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Implausible deniability. Then again, didn't they recently admit they forgot about a content moderation provision for three years in an FBOB case? https://twitter.com/...
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@mollymckew
Molly McKew
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FB execs openly pander to the “the market will decide” crap and “people will leave if they don't like the product” They make it clear if you are on FB, you endorse their policies and practices. So don't be.
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@mollymckew
Molly McKew
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This is the magic FB formula: don't analyze data that will show X because then you have to do something about X and it's better not to look because then you can keep playing the “how could we know” card But my real question is: why is anyone still in Facebook? https://twitter.com…
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@fboversight
@fboversight
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“Facebook has a COVID disinformation problem because Facebook has a right-wing extremism problem,” said RFOB, an advocacy organization critical of the social media giant, in a statement." @SilvermanJacob @newrepublic https://newrepublic.com/...
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@sheeraf
Sheera Frenkel
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There was a lot of debate this weekend about why Facebook couldn't give Biden the data on Covid misinfo. The problem is that measuring misinformation is complicated, and FB data scientists have said they are a year out (or more) from being able to do it: https://www.nytimes.com/.…
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@juliacarriew
Julia Carrie Wong
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One thing to try to resist w/ the Biden v Facebook anti-vaxx debate is Facebook's concerted efforts to keep everyone's memory incredibly short. Facebook was actively promoting anti-vaxxer groups to people searching for vaccine information in *2019* https://www.theguardian.com/ ..…
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@jkosseff
Jeff Kosseff
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Yes, everyone hates Facebook. We get that already. But what should it look like? And how do we get there in light of legal, technical, and operational constraints? That's a much more difficult and important discussion.
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@kellymakena
Makena Kelly
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Asked if he would hold FB accountable for misinfo, Biden says: “I'm not trying to hold people accountable. I'm trying to make people look at themselves in the mirror. Think about that misinformation going to your son, your daughter, your relative ... That's all I'm asking.”
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@oliverdarcy
Oliver Darcy
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This is ... quite a walk back. https://twitter.com/...
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@dylanbyers
Dylan Byers
on x
Awkard position for the pundits who, emboldened by the president's initial words, went out and said: “Biden is right, Facebook is killing people...” https://twitter.com/...
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@kaitlancollins
Kaitlan Collins
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Asked whether the platform has done enough so far to blunt the spread of misinformation, Biden says, “To be completely honest with you, I don't know that they did anything today, up to over the weekend, I don't think they had. But I don't know.”
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@owillis
Oliver Willis
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Facebook to advertisers: we can microtarget anything with a pulse, even the dead sometimes Facebook to the govt: finding misinformation is hard you guys, pay no attention to the billions we have in the bank we could spend on this bull. shit. https://twitter.com/...
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@tedcruz
Ted Cruz
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🚨Breaking news🚨 From now on, all Facebook posts will end with: “I'm Joe Biden, and I approve this message.”
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@egavactip
Mark Pitcavage
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“On Facebook alone, the dozen are responsible for 73% of all anti-vaccine content...And 95% of the Covid misinformation reported on these platforms were not removed.” https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
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@nicktrebla
@nicktrebla
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Majority of Covid misinformation came from 12 people, report finds. These 12 people influenced 59 million gullible followers like Barnaby Joyce, Boris Johnston and Donald Trump https://www.theguardian.com/ ...
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@zerohedge
@zerohedge
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*PSAKI: WE ARE NOT IN A WAR WITH FACEBOOK, BUT WITH VIRUS Is Facebook sending White House censorship phone calls straight to voicemail?
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@sivavaid
Dr. Siva Vaidhyanathan
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This problem is not going to get easier. Even if a thousand social scientists had this data we would be no closer to a full view. This is just a lot more complicated than most people thing. Why? Because the problem with Facebook is Facebook. https://twitter.com/...
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Dr. Siva Vaidhyanathan🗽🤘 🏽
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Take this from one of the OG Facebook critics: Making it about Facebook is a waste of precious time. No one who runs Facebook cares about real people in the real world. We are data to them.
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@brooklynmarie
Brooke Binkowski
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Not to mention white supremacists have been trying to form a global alliance for decades. Facebook algos and groups did that for them https://twitter.com/...
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@profcarroll
David Carroll
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There is no viable economic mechanic to punish Facebook for its downstream social and economic harms such as vaccine disinfo because its primary revenue stream derives from small and medium sized businesses that wholly depend on Facebook for customer acquisition.
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@bigblackjacobin
Edward Ongweso Jr
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If I was Biden I would simply double down on the accusation that Facebook is killing people and not walk it back the next business day
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@lanceulanoff
Lance Ulanoff
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I fully expected this clarification https://www.wsj.com/...
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@juliacarriew
Julia Carrie Wong
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You can't pick up a telephone book and automatically find the names and contact info of 1000 people who are susceptible to anti-vaxx propaganda, or white nationalism, or QAnon, or boogaloo violence. But Facebook will do that for you, usually for free, without you even asking.
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@repthomasmassie
Thomas Massie
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The White House has admitted to working with Facebook to track, flag, and block certain content and content creators. Which begs the question: how involved is the government in Facebook's efforts to track and flag VIEWERS of content the government hasn't approved? https://twitter…
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@donie
Donie O'Sullivan
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This comment will surely irk many Facebook employees who have been working on the company's efforts to tackle Covid misinformation for more than a year. https://twitter.com/...
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Dr. Siva Vaidhyanathan🗽🤘 🏽
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I have sympathy for Murthy and Biden as they push Facebook to crack down on the anti-vax stuff. But it's not going to happen — and certainly not in time to save this country from the next (current?) wave. Don't make it about Facebook. Make it about schools. De-escalate.
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@shelbytalcott
Shelby Talcott
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Psaki doesn't directly answer when asked whether the administration plans to make public what it's flagging as misinformation for Facebook.
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@blackamazon
@blackamazon
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And part of that short memory is that Facebook, the Senate and the misinfo space and the Democratic safety space ? We're told this in 2016 when it was targeting Black people and in other countries about MASSACRES they knew it had consequences https://twitter.com/...
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@jason_kint
Jason Kint
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I'll bite. Take the 2019 German federal cartel office decision vs Facebook and apply globally. No access to any of my data outside of the app itself - and no sharing across their apps. That will solve a whole lot of problems. Trust me. https://twitter.com/...
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@zamaan_qureshi
Zamaan Qureshi
on x
There are going to be folks at the White House who are going to be pissed about this statement. Some at WH want Facebook to share with them how much *misinformation* about vaccines people have seen. Repeat pressure from the WH on FB may have forced that data. https://twitter.com/…
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@juliacarriew
Julia Carrie Wong
on x
Does Facebook kill people? Eh, who's to say (besides the UN Independent International Fact-Finding Mission on Myanmar)? But it sure as hell does its level best to bring together the people who kill other people and help them find new recruits and new targets.
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@ewerickson
Erick Erickson
on x
If the White House's demands for Facebook and misinformation were met, all the people who said COVID came from a lab would have been banned a year ago when now that is increasingly the consensus.
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@jesselehrich
Jesse Lehrich
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“At the start of the pandemic, a group of data scientists at Facebook held a meeting with execs to ask for resources to help measure the prevalence of misinformation about Covid-19... The execs never approved the resources & the team was never told why” https://www.nytimes.com/..…
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@marshablackburn
Sen. Marsha Blackburn
on x
Biden needs to release every email and contact that his administration has had with Facebook regarding their crusade to monitor our speech. https://www.foxnews.com/...
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@mikeloychik
Representative Mike Loychik
on x
The only thing Facebook is killing is free speech.
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@orientaljanedoe
Jane Chung
on x
Did someone get a call from Mark? Sheryl? https://twitter.com/...
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@anandwrites
@anandwrites
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A few years ago, Mark Zuckerberg said he wanted to end all disease. Today, he is one of the chief obstacles to a healthy, vaccinated world. This isn't a contradiction. Billionaires like him use do-gooding pledges to buy the space to do profitable harm. https://podcasts.apple.com/…
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@comfortablysmug
Comfortably Smug
on x
So Biden's statement on misinformation was misinformation https://twitter.com/...
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@jkosseff
Jeff Kosseff
on x
I'd love to see a media outlet ask 50 gov officials/commentators to describe what social media should look like in an ideal world. My guess is that you would get *very* different answers, but it would be more productive than the current discussion.
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@wsj
@wsj
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President Biden's attack on Facebook on Friday followed months of mounting private frustration inside his administration over the social-media giant's handling of vaccine misinformation, according to U.S. officials https://www.wsj.com/...
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@jason_kint
Jason Kint
on x
if your worldview is Facebook and White House cycle was “just a distraction” or White House just needed their Crowd Tangle account approved, it won't end well. Facebook will continue to take ten steps backward and a few steps forward.... it's a leadership and biz model issue.
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@elienyc
Elie Mystal
on x
LOL @ Biden figuratively telling Facebook to “grow up” https://twitter.com/...
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@allison__news
Allison Harris
on x
“We are not in a war or a battle with Facebook,” @PressSec says the war is instead with coronavirus, after President Biden cleaned up his comments Friday that it's not Facebook killing people, but the 12 people responsible for spreading 65% of the misinformation on the platform.
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@chrismegerian
Chris Megerian
on x
“We're not in a war or a battle with Facebook,” Jen Psaki says, adding that the real enemy is the virus.
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@adamserwer
@adamserwer
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It's both true that facebook can ban whomever it wants from its platform without running afoul of the First Amendment, and for the same reason, the Biden can't tell them what or who to ban https://twitter.com/...
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@alexeheath
Alex Heath
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you shouldn't take me calling you a murderer personally https://t.co/ca34gTd000
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@alexeheath
Alex Heath
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The WH gets its weekend of rage at FB in the news, pegged to headline-friendly Biden “killing people” comment, after missing its vaccination goal Then Biden gets to quietly walk back on Monday You can even hate FB and see how manufactured this news cycle was
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@willoremus
Will Oremus
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Not to say that the concerns are entirely unjustified or irrelevant, I just feel like Biden's instantly infamous “they're killing people” quote is probably best understood as more of an exasperated “c'mon, man!” than an attempt at coercing censorship.
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@alexeheath
Alex Heath
on x
what a ridiculous news cycle this has been https://twitter.com/...
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@therecount
@therecount
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President Biden clarifies his comment saying Facebook is “killing people”: “My hope is that Facebook, instead of taking it personally ... that they would do something about the outrageous misinformation about the vaccine.” https://twitter.com/...