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Q&A: Facebook Oversight Board director Thomas Hughes on upholding Trump's ban, why the Board isn't a PR stunt, Facebook refusing to answer its questions, more
Nicholas Suzar who βlovedβ a comparison between Trump & Hitler βAfia Asantewaa Asare-Kyei, a member of George Soros' Open Society Initiative βJamal Greene who fantasized about Trump being shot π€ Dan Pereira / @ddanpereira : Twitter does not have an Oversight Board like Facebook does! Thank you to Jack Dorsey for the permanent ban of #Trump! He violated Twitter Rules constantly & the attempted coup of the US Govt can NEVER be forgiven or forgotten! @jack #facebookoversightboard #Facebook Jordan Schachtel / @jordanschachtel : CATO exists to undermine people who they should agree with 99.99% of the time. Effectively controlled opposition to advance the interests of the oligarchy. https://twitter.com/... @bostonjoan : Personally, I'm so utterly disappointed with the βoversight boardβ for not stepping up and doing the right thing by the world. It's so frustrating to do this research (witnessing so much horror every day) when others abdicate responsibility while making massive profits. https://twitter.com/... PoliMath / @politicalmath : Here is part of my gripe with βDon't like Facebook, don't use it!β My church runs their small-groups through Facebook Our local BuyNothing groups all run on Facebook So does all our community organizing for school advocacy, both pro-opening and anti-opening Steve Daines / @stevedaines : After throwing tens of millions of dollars at elections to oust Republicans in 2020, it's no surprise that George Soros also has ties to @Facebook's βoversight boardβ that supports shutting down conservative speech. The Left's intolerance is turning into tyrannyβit must stop. https://twitter.com/... Dude / @theheismann01 : I miss freedom... #DeleteFacebook https://twitter.com/... Quinta Jurecic / @qjurecic : incredibly appropriate that the Trump case has turned into Facebook and the Oversight Board chucking the hot potato at one another, given that the story of Trump's presidency is institution after institution doing nothing in the desperate hope that Someone Else Will Handle It https://twitter.com/... PoliMath / @politicalmath : βStop bitching about Facebook and just intentionally divorce yourself from how your local community functions!β @alfonslopeztena : Facebook's made-up sham court is filling an enormous legal void because democratic institutions aren't solving the problems that Facebook creates. Zuckerberg alone decides is a terrible way to determine what 2.8 billion users should be allowed to express https://www.theatlantic.com/ ... @accountabletech : Yesterday, Facebook's corporate PR tool of an Oversight Board issued a ruling of no immediate effect. Today, misinformation and extremism is still very much alive on the platform. https://twitter.com/... @fboversight : @carolecadwalla @CNN RFOB Founding Member @carolecadwalla appeared on @Morning_Joe π½οΈWatch the full interview here: https://www.youtube.com/... https://twitter.com/... Jenna Ellis / @jennaellisesq : Back off Charlie Kirk. His tweet doesn't have precise legal finesse, but his point is that the judicial branch should review Big Tech's censorship of free expression. And he's right. https://twitter.com/... Gad Saad / @gadsaad : Hello, we are your home heating company. We noticed that you complimented Trump on your Facebook page. This violates our service agreement so please advise your children that they will freeze to death because bruh we are a company and not the govt so f**k off with your freedom. Rick Wilson / @therickwilson : You failed civics, didn't you? https://twitter.com/... @blackamazon : good read and .. I need people with power and access and resources to start PLANNING FOR THEIR OWN EMOTIONAL RESPONSES People who have no idea what you do , no clarity , who see your comms as opaque and inscrutable ? are gonna think its a PR stunt because to them it is https://twitter.com/... @cnbcpolitics : Members of the Facebook Oversight board defended their decision to punt a ruling on how long former President Trump's suspension from the platform should last. Their defense essentially boiled down to: it's not our job to write Facebook's rules. https://www.cnbc.com/... @brad_polumbo : No, it wasn't. Speech is not violence. And you can take down specific posts without nuking the entire accounts of world leaders. https://twitter.com/... Issie Lapowsky / @issielapowsky : *and if you are one of the lovely people who watched this interview live, this transcript has all the questions I asked that you couldn't hear after my audio and video cut out π https://www.protocol.com/... @protocol : Yesterday Facebook's Oversight Board issued a quasi-decision: it upheld the ban on Trump, but Facebook must revisit it in six months. How did the board arrive at this? And what does it mean for Facebook and its more than 3 billion users around the world? https://www.protocol.com/... Issie Lapowsky / @issielapowsky : NEW: Talked w/ FB Oversight Board director @thomasmhughes about the Trump decision. This stands out: βIf you can make independent self regulation work, and it is truly independent and it functions...that is the most effective form of content regulation.β https://www.protocol.com/... See also Mediagazer
ProtocolIssie Lapowsky
Context & Ripple Effects
The Oversight Board's verdict lands at the end of a long runway: from the Board's setup phase through proposed bylaws that left Facebook firmly in control and January's public-comment round on whether banning Trump complied with freedom-of-expression standards ([[a:962628]]). The Board upheld the ban but punted on its most consequential question β how long it should last β handing that back to Facebook within six months.
That deferral is why director Thomas Hughes is doing damage control in this interview: he argues the Board is genuine independent self-regulation, not a PR stunt, while critics point out Facebook refused to answer the Board's own questions about the suspension β an early test of whether the body has any leverage over the company that funds it.
First-order effects
Donald Trump stays off Facebook for now, but the actual duration of the ban reverts to Facebook's discretion once the six-month window opens β the decision the Board was expected to make goes back to the company being reviewed.
Facebook's refusal to answer the Board's questions about the suspension exposes the limits of the Board's investigative authority at the exact moment it needed credibility, fueling the PR-stunt criticism Hughes is rebutting.
Second-order effects
Other platforms weighing the co-chair's invitation to adopt the Board now have a live stress test showing what membership costs: their hardest calls get adjudicated publicly while the underlying company can stonewall its own reviewer.
Commentators who see bias and indecision in the outcome put pressure on the Board to justify its case-by-case deliberations against Twitter-style permanent bans decided unilaterally inside companies.
Third-order effects
If Facebook retains control over bylaws and can decline to cooperate with its reviewer, 'independent' oversight risks settling into an advisory layer β pushing the real deplatforming-legitimacy debate toward regulators rather than corporate-built courts.
The six-month deferral sets a template other platforms could copy: uphold the substance of a controversial enforcement action while returning the politically explosive part β permanence β to internal policy processes.
The trend: Platform governance is moving toward semi-independent review boards whose authority depends entirely on the host company's willingness to answer hard questions and honor their rulings.
The US Supreme Court should overturn the Facebook's βOversight Board'sβ βrulingβ which upholds the outlawing of the 45th President of the United States from social media. This is a big tech, corporate oligarchy without standing and it's gone too far. Enough is enough.
Facebook is cancer. I don't say this glibly. I say this after spending 4 years failing to get answers & failing to hold it to account. The Oversight Board is a dangerous distraction. And everything I want to say about it is in this clip. Thank you @msnbc @JoeNBC @morningmika http…
The Facebook oversight board has more power than the United Nations. Conservatives were right to worry about giving our sovereignty away to a multinational institution. We just picked the wrong one.
Anyone still upholding the false dichotomy between the Facebook oversight board and Facebook the company can officially let go of it now. The content moderation board dodged their mandate and now the other CEO board at FB has to make a decision to permaban Trump.
@carolecadwalla @CNN @Morning_Joe RFOB Board Member @shoshanazuboff appeared on @democracynow π½οΈWatch the full interview here: https://www.youtube.com/... https://twitter.com/...
Facebook profits off of disinformation. That was true when Donald Trump was allowed on the platform, and it's still true today. He should be banned for good, but that won't solve the larger problem. We still need to rein in disinformation and protect our democracy.
πΊRFOB/TV Watch, a threadπ§΅ (We will continue to update this thread as our members appear on TV around the globe to discuss the @OversightBoard's decision)
Facebook is quick to hide behind Section 230 when it suits them but perfectly happy to make editorial decisions against one political side. #RepealSection230 https://twitter.com/...
No more school board announcements through Facebook. No town hall meetings can be posted there and they may not stream live there. There should be zero government presence on Facebook whatsoever. No more Facebook voting drives, which discriminate against those banned
My view of the big decision by the Oversight Board is no different from most, except in one small way. I don't agree that the Board has βno power.β No formal power, but if Facebook defies the Board's clear mandate there's a loss of global legitimacy. This gives the OB some power.
If we say that Facebook can ban people, then we're saying it's not a public square βBut it's NOT a public squareβ Then introduce legislation banning all gov't entities from interfacing with Facebook. It's inappropriate for them to use a tool that blocks their constituents.
Some of the βunbiased, independentβ members of this Oversight Board: βNicholas Suzar who βlovedβ a comparison between Trump & Hitler βAfia Asantewaa Asare-Kyei, a member of George Soros' Open Society Initiative βJamal Greene who fantasized about Trump being shot π€
Twitter does not have an Oversight Board like Facebook does! Thank you to Jack Dorsey for the permanent ban of #Trump! He violated Twitter Rules constantly & the attempted coup of the US Govt can NEVER be forgiven or forgotten! @jack #facebookoversightboard #Facebook
CATO exists to undermine people who they should agree with 99.99% of the time. Effectively controlled opposition to advance the interests of the oligarchy. https://twitter.com/...
Back off Charlie Kirk. His tweet doesn't have precise legal finesse, but his point is that the judicial branch should review Big Tech's censorship of free expression. And he's right. https://twitter.com/...
Personally, I'm so utterly disappointed with the βoversight boardβ for not stepping up and doing the right thing by the world. It's so frustrating to do this research (witnessing so much horror every day) when others abdicate responsibility while making massive profits. https://t…
Here is part of my gripe with βDon't like Facebook, don't use it!β My church runs their small-groups through Facebook Our local BuyNothing groups all run on Facebook So does all our community organizing for school advocacy, both pro-opening and anti-opening
After throwing tens of millions of dollars at elections to oust Republicans in 2020, it's no surprise that George Soros also has ties to @Facebook's βoversight boardβ that supports shutting down conservative speech. The Left's intolerance is turning into tyrannyβit must stop. htt…
Hello, we are your home heating company. We noticed that you complimented Trump on your Facebook page. This violates our service agreement so please advise your children that they will freeze to death because bruh we are a company and not the govt so f**k off with your freedom.
incredibly appropriate that the Trump case has turned into Facebook and the Oversight Board chucking the hot potato at one another, given that the story of Trump's presidency is institution after institution doing nothing in the desperate hope that Someone Else Will Handle It htt…
Facebook's made-up sham court is filling an enormous legal void because democratic institutions aren't solving the problems that Facebook creates. Zuckerberg alone decides is a terrible way to determine what 2.8 billion users should be allowed to express https://www.theatlantic.c…
Yesterday, Facebook's corporate PR tool of an Oversight Board issued a ruling of no immediate effect. Today, misinformation and extremism is still very much alive on the platform. https://twitter.com/...
@carolecadwalla @CNN RFOB Founding Member @carolecadwalla appeared on @Morning_Joe π½οΈWatch the full interview here: https://www.youtube.com/... https://twitter.com/...
good read and .. I need people with power and access and resources to start PLANNING FOR THEIR OWN EMOTIONAL RESPONSES People who have no idea what you do , no clarity , who see your comms as opaque and inscrutable ? are gonna think its a PR stunt because to them it is https://tw…
Members of the Facebook Oversight board defended their decision to punt a ruling on how long former President Trump's suspension from the platform should last. Their defense essentially boiled down to: it's not our job to write Facebook's rules. https://www.cnbc.com/...
No, it wasn't. Speech is not violence. And you can take down specific posts without nuking the entire accounts of world leaders. https://twitter.com/...
*and if you are one of the lovely people who watched this interview live, this transcript has all the questions I asked that you couldn't hear after my audio and video cut out π https://www.protocol.com/...
Yesterday Facebook's Oversight Board issued a quasi-decision: it upheld the ban on Trump, but Facebook must revisit it in six months. How did the board arrive at this? And what does it mean for Facebook and its more than 3 billion users around the world? https://www.protocol.com/…
NEW: Talked w/ FB Oversight Board director @thomasmhughes about the Trump decision. This stands out: βIf you can make independent self regulation work, and it is truly independent and it functions...that is the most effective form of content regulation.β https://www.protocol.com/…