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Clubhouse, which centralizes creation and consumption into a feedback loop, will do for audio what Twitter, Stories, and TikTok did for text, images, and video

To what extent are new companies, particularly those in new spaces, pushed versus pulled into existence?  Last week I wrote about how Tesla is a Meme Company:

Stratechery Ben Thompson

Context & Ripple Effects

Clubhouse emerged from the lockdown-era wave of drop-in social rooms, with its appeal tied to unedited, serendipitous conversations rather than edited posts. The article frames that format as a new creation-and-consumption loop for audio.

The competitive implication was already visible: Twitter's Spaces was positioned as a natural extension of Twitter, while Clubhouse's growth was beginning to attract creator-facing services and analytics tools.

First-order effects

  • Clubhouse gains a clearer platform narrative: live audio is positioned as both the content format and the feedback mechanism that can pull listeners into becoming participants.
  • Twitter faces pressure to make Spaces a substantive social layer rather than a peripheral feature, because its existing text network gives it a direct distribution advantage.

Second-order effects

  • Creator-service firms such as Audio Collective and analytics products such as Direcon gain a reason to build around Clubhouse as organizers, brands, and hosts need help operating live programming.
  • Competition shifts from exclusive access to the quality of creator tools, discovery, and repeat participation, areas where Twitter can bundle audio into an existing network.

Third-order effects

  • The later move to asynchronous voice group chat suggests that audio-social products may need durable messaging behaviors, not only live-room novelty, to sustain a creator-and-listener loop.
  • If audio platforms continue to generate adjacent tooling and services, value will increasingly be divided among the host network, creator operators, and the software layer that measures and manages participation.

The trend: Social platforms are extending beyond publishing feeds toward formats that collapse creation, conversation, and audience feedback into a single participation loop.

Discussion

  • @markstenberg3 Mark Stenberg on x
    really interesting hypothesis from @benthompson that makes the case for @joinClubhouse as the logical evolution of audio writing —> blogs —> Twitter photos —> Instagram —> IG Stories video —> YouTube —> TikTok audio —> podcasts —> Clubhouse https://stratechery.com/... https://twi…
  • @ashleyrcarman Ashley Carman on x
    Interesting @benthompson piece on clubhouse. He posits that if clubhouse and social audio take off, Spotify's investment in podcasts might look like betting on blogs in the 2000s, only for Twitter to come along and kill them https://stratechery.com/... https://twitter.com/...
  • @stratechery @stratechery on x
    Clubhouse's Inevitability Clubhouse will do for audio what Twitter, Instagram Stories, and TikTok did for text, images, and video. https://stratechery.com/...
  • @bariweiss Bari Weiss on x
    This, from @benthompson, is the first thing that really helped me understand why @joinClubhouse is a game-changer: https://stratechery.com/...
  • @noupside Renee DiResta on x
    We've seen this dynamic happen across other platforms: zero-cost publishing for content creation, aggregated massive audiences & nudges to assist distribution. But then comes the next phase: curation. And this is where IMO Clubhouse is going to have to work to avoid past mistakes
  • @gordonbrander Gordon Brander on x
    But an interesting new development is that creators no longer have false consciousness toward aggregators like Facebook. They can see that aggregators promise reach, but commodify creators. We see them evolving new strategies to hack around this.
  • @benbajarin Ben Bajarin on x
    I'm surprised more people aren't making the connection to Clubhouse and talk radio. Seems more an evolution of that than some other audio mediums.
  • @noupside Renee DiResta on x
    Curation is how the platforms suggest, promote, or push users things they are likely to want to see (or in this case, listen to). The discovery process can be proactive - users search and the platform returns ranked results - or somewhat passive, via pushes. It's powerful.
  • @alexcartaz @alexcartaz on x
    I usually end up agreeing with Ben on most things but I don't think CH is going to transform podcasts. They will just introduce a more viable “live” podcast (think live radio vs recorded radio) and lower bar for creation in general https://twitter.com/...
  • @pamevls Pamela Valds on x
    It's the best time to build an audio company. https://stratechery.com/...
  • @rktweets Roberto Kusabbi on x
    An astounding long read on all things social really. But also so much more. A one-stop social history plus an eye on the future. Clubhouse's Inevitability https://stratechery.com/...
  • @thatadamguy Adam Lasnik on x
    @sathish__ @stratechery You're overlooking the entertainment and social connection aspect. Not everything is about information :)
  • @noupside Renee DiResta on x
    Goodread by @benthompson on how Clubhouse fits into the democratization trend that has reshaped content distribution for numerous content types over the last 15 years. (SIO got a shout-out for our work this wk on the Agora relationship...link in tweet 2) https://stratechery.com/.…
  • @gordonbrander Gordon Brander on x
    RSS died for text use-cases because it was outcompeted by Facebook. RSS for audio (podcasts) competed against non-consumption, and thrived. But the money has made podcasting legible to aggregators. Spotify, Clubhouse smell blood in the water. https://twitter.com/...
  • @heyitsliore @heyitsliore on x
    Podcasts are one of the last online mediums for truly indie content that doesn't live in a walled garden, so of course VC money wants to ruin it. https://twitter.com/...
  • @hnguyenly Hai Nguyen Ly on x
    #Clubhouse might be more of a literal echo chamber. https://twitter.com/...
  • @noupside Renee DiResta on x
    So, powerful (and enjoyable!) new platform with large and growing userbase will now confront many of the same challenges that other social platforms have struggled with.
  • @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x
    As Twitter killed blogging by being lower friction and fixing discovery, Clubhouse could do the same for podcasts. Key question is if Clubhouse can build out interest graph & discovery faster than Twitter can scale their Spaces product. Who do you bet on? https://stratechery.com/…
  • @davidcbaker David C. Baker on x
    The audio infrastructure for ClubHouse is hosted in the PRC. That's going to have to change if this takes off. https://stratechery.com/...
  • @cnyari Cristian Nyari on x
    I've been trying to put my finger on the Clubhouse phenomenon for weeks now but @benthompson nailed it in his analysis. Analogy w Stories/Video is apt “combined the customized nature of the feed with the ephemerality inherent in digital's abundance” https://stratechery.com/...
  • @jangles Neville Hobson on x
    This is a great analysis. I wonder, though, whether we ought to be thinking of #Clubhouse as an evolution of #talkradio rather than of #podcasting https://twitter.com/...
  • @sathish__ Sathish on x
    @stratechery Short clubhouse. User growth massive for now, retention poor imo. Audio is very low information density.
  • @kantrowitz Alex Kantrowitz on x
    Another way to look at this: Yet another moment where a platform will make loads of money off the efforts of individual content creators https://twitter.com/...
  • @vivian Vivian Schiller on x
    .@benthompson nails it: “Difference btwn Clubhouse & podcasts is how much dramatically easier it is to both create a conversation & to listen to one..inline with shift from blogging to Twitter, from website publishing to Instagram, from YouTube to TikTok” https://stratechery.com/…
  • @farzad_md Farzad Mostashari on x
    Key @benthompson insight- 3rd wave “social” apps (twitter, tiktok, instagram) democratize creation dramatically + steer the creator/audience to what's Interesting Clubhouse is doing that to podcasts (though the algo part is 🤷) Clubhouse's Inevitability https://stratechery.com/...
  • @mathewi Mathew Ingram on x
    Good piece from @benthompson about how Clubhouse is doing to podcasts what Twitter did to blogs https://stratechery.com/...
  • @morientalist Munkhnaran Bayar on x
    “Stanford Internet Observatory has determined that a user's unique Clubhouse ID number and chatroom ID are transmitted in plaintext, and Agora would likely have access to users' raw audio, potentially providing access to the Chinese government.” https://cyber.fsi.stanford.edu/ ..…