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Sources: Apple is discussing launching a new subscription service that would charge people to listen to podcasts

The Information :

The Information

Context & Ripple Effects

This report slots into Apple's multi-year services build-out: after discussions with game developers about a games subscription and a planned subscription-focused event at Apple Park, podcasts are the next category Apple reportedly wants behind a paywall. Charging listeners directly would mark a break from podcasting's free, ad-supported default.

The competitive frame was already set: Spotify had been testing the idea via survey plans ranging from $3 to $8 per month, so a paid Apple Podcasts product would turn an experiment into a two-platform race. The arc resolves months later when Apple formally announces Podcasts Subscriptions across 170 regions, and Spotify counters with a model that lets podcasters set prices without taking a cut.

First-order effects

  • Podcasters on Apple's platform gain a new revenue option but face a choice between walled-garden subscriptions and the open feed model their audiences expect.
  • Spotify's surveyed $3–$8 tier structure stops being hypothetical — it becomes the benchmark Apple's pricing has to beat or match.

Second-order effects

  • Spotify's reported counter — letting podcasters keep 100% of listener payments — turns the take-rate itself into the competitive weapon, pressuring Apple to justify any cut through reach and app placement.
  • Hosting platforms and podcast tools that serve independent creators get pulled into supporting dual distribution paths, one per ecosystem, raising integration costs across the supply side.

Third-order effects

  • If both platforms scale paid tiers, podcasting structurally splits between free open-RSS content and platform-exclusive premium shows, with Apple and Spotify controlling discovery and payment rails rather than advertisers.
  • The pattern extends Apple's services playbook — subscriptions layered onto games, news, and now audio — reinforcing a business where recurring services revenue, not device sales alone, anchors the P&L.

The trend: Audio distribution is shifting from open, ad-supported feeds to platform-controlled subscription bundles, with Apple and Spotify competing on who takes the smaller cut of creator earnings.

Discussion

  • @kateclarktweets Kate Clark on x
    Apple plans to start charging people to listen to podcasts: https://www.theinformation.com/ ...
  • @sarthakgh Sar Haribhakti on x
    Apple practically invented podcasts. Got a massive hit in their pre-installed app. Had no competition for years. Did nothing. Spotify came along and offered podcasts at no extra cost. Apple responds with a paid service separate from music?!?
  • @chrismessina Chris Messina on x
    Amazon vs Apple in the podcast #rundle/#StreamingWars is the battle royale I'm here for. https://www.theinformation.com/ ...
  • @stephennellis Stephen Nellis on x
    Apple is mulling a paid podcasting service, @cityofthetown and @jtoonkel report in a good scoop over @theinformation - https://www.theinformation.com/ ...
  • @ballmatthew Matthew Ball on x
    Alternatively Apple's moves validates Spotify's more aggressive and well ahead podcasting decisions Just as its TV Originals validated Prime Video (at which point iTunes had lost half of its buy/rental market share + Fire TV had surged to first place in connect devices globally)
  • @ballmatthew Matthew Ball on x
    Strikes me that Apple launching a paid podcasting business is net good for Spotify? At min, makes Spotify, which has exclusive podcasts at no extra charge, a better deal. At maximum, it allows Spotify to increase its pricing (without revenue share to labels) + still be cheaper
  • @markgurman Mark Gurman on x
    Apple is working on a Podcasts subscription service focused on originals, adding to its growing list of services. @Lucas_Shaw: https://www.bloomberg.com/...
  • @martinsfp Martin Sfp Bryant on x
    *remembers the outcry when Luminary paywalled podcasts* https://twitter.com/...
  • @nicktheandersen Nick Andersen on x
    gentle reminder that podcasting is historically built on an open ecosystem and this move to further isolate content doesn't serve most creators https://twitter.com/...
  • @alexeheath Alex Heath on x
    Apple planning a podcasting subscription service, scoops @cityofthetown & @jtoonkel https://www.theinformation.com/ ...
  • @drppdoodoo @drppdoodoo on x
    So tired of Tim Cook turning every area of his business into a subscription service. Milking customers everywhere they turn isn't a revolutionary idea. It's pathetic this dude took apple from an innovate giant to a subscription monthly business https://twitter.com/...
  • @chrispirillo Obi-Wan Pirillo on x
    how about a podcast service that listens to all the podcasts that get podcasted and then pumps out a podcast digestcast pod https://twitter.com/...
  • @kantrowitz Alex Kantrowitz on x
    Ah yes, that moment once every five years when Apple remembers it has a podcast app https://twitter.com/...
  • @pkafka Peter Kafka on x
    The Apple line for several years has been: *Podcasting can't be a meaningful business for us and *We don't want to be in the podcast advertising business, bc, yuk. Subscription biz kinda solves second problem, but hard to see how it solves first. https://twitter.com/...
  • @mgsiegler M.G. Siegler on x
    Last week, Twitter banning Trump caused Libertarians to call for private enterprise to be regulated. This week, Apple putting podcasts behind paywalls will cause podcast OGs (most of whom are also Apple fans) to say now this is a good thing. Same energy. https://twitter.com/...
  • @jbenton Joshua Benton on x
    Both expected and “whoa”: Apple Plans Podcasting Subscription Service in Threat to Spotify https://www.theinformation.com/ ...
  • @jessicalessin Jessica Lessin on x
    Smart. Inevitable. Great scoop from @jtoonkel https://www.theinformation.com/ ...
  • @niubi Bill Bishop on x
    Apple Plans Podcasting Subscription Service in Threat to Spotify https://www.theinformation.com/ ... via @theinformation why not a newsletter subscription service too?