Discussion

• @mellowonline1 @mellowonline1 on x

  Let's be real, this isnt the priority focus for Epic. Not dunking on them for what they're doing, as it holds the potential for a positive impact, but please dont paint this as the main reason it's being done. It all comes down down to the net profit at the end of the day. https:…

• @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x

  Another argument against supporting #FreeFortnite is “this is just a billion dollar company fighting a trillion dollar company about money”. But the fight isn't over Epic wanting a special deal, it's about the basic freedoms of all consumers and developers.

• @_chuckyc Charlie Chapman on x

  Oh dang, they're not fighting for 30% of Fortnite sales, they're fighting for ~12% of everyone elses 😅 Makes more sense why they're prepping to spend this much money on this long shot battle with Apple. They smell the opportunity to become the Steam of mobile https://twitter.com/…

• @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x

  At the most basic level, we're fighting for the freedom of people who bought smartphones to install apps from sources of their choosing, the freedom for creators of apps to distribute them as they choose, and the freedom of both groups to do business directly.

• @juliemuncy23 Julie Alexis Muncy on x

  and tim wants to, i'm assume, replace the tech monopolies with an enlightened tech philosopher king who will rule justly buddy I've played this game before, i know the ending, and it was underdeveloped https://twitter.com/...

• @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x

  IGN says Epic is “Weaponizing Fortnite Fans”. But the armament being offered is simply an idea: That the maker of a smartphone does not have the right to dictate the terms of our lives and our businesses.

• @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x

  The primary opposing argument is: “Smartphone markers can do whatever they want”. This as an awful notion. We all have rights, and we need to fight to defend our rights against whoever would deny them. Even if that means fighting a beloved company like Apple.

• @s8mb Sam Bowman on x

  This is good. Why doesn't Epic object that *consoles* are closed platforms that take a 30% cut, as well as iOS and the Google Play Store? https://arstechnica.com/...

• @firstadopter Tae Kim on x

  Sony is an investor in Epic too “Most if not all of the complaints Epic makes against Apple and Google seem to apply to Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo in the console space as well. All three console makers also take a 30-percent cut” https://arstechnica.com/... https://twitter.com…

• @neilcybart Neil Cybart on x

  Is this a joke? The more Epic says, the worse they look. https://twitter.com/...

• @amelnychuck Alex Melnychuck on x

  Anyone who thinks Epic is going up against Apple with the intention of passing the full savings back to users long term is playing right into Epic's strategy. It's a profit margin grab, and a beautifully crafted marketing campaign to bring Fortnite users up in arms against Apple.…

• @jordanmorgan10 Jordan Morgan on x

  The thing I genuinely don't understand about this stance is that Fortnite does crazy dollars on both PlayStation, Nintendo and Xbox - all of which operate just like the App Store as far as I can tell. Closed markets with their own payment gateways, so what's the difference? https…

• @reneritchie Rene Ritchie on x

  TIL Sony owns 1.4% of Epic. (Tencent owns 40%.) https://twitter.com/...

• @timsweeneyepic Tim Sweeney on x

  Finally, there's nothing wrong with fighting about money. You work hard to earn this stuff. When you spent it, the way it's divided determines whether your money funds the creation of games or is taken by middlemen who use their power to separate gamers from game creators.

• @stevekovach Steve Kovach on x

  Why does Apple take more heat on its App Store policies than Google? Simple. People spend A LOT more money on Apple's App Store. Here's what Fortnite $$$ looks like on iOS vs. Android. https://www.cnbc.com/... https://twitter.com/...

• @leonlush Leon Lush on x

  Multi billion dollar companies fighting is fun in theory, but watching rich nerds try and out litigate each other is lame af. I want Tim Cook vs Tim Sweeney in the octagon, 3 rounds, loin cloths and war paint, medieval weapons allowed, last one breathing takes all.

• @tailosivetech @tailosivetech on x

  Just wanna remind everyone a 30% revenue cut on platforms is incredibly standard. In case you didn't know what YouTube takes from its creators. Epic Games on their own Store takes 12% of revenue (but not 0 like they were pitching with their vbucks in-app purchase) https://twitter…

• @minovskyarticle Minovsky on x

  It's astounding how quickly massive corporations adapted to mobilizing their online fanbases against each other over contract disputes. Sony and Disney's battle over Spider-Man walked so Epic vs Apple could run.

• @durov Pavel Durov on x

  @FortniteGame As a fan of Fortnite (and freedom), I fully support Epic Games in their fight against Apple. The fact that users and developers have been allowing Apple to hold them in digital slavery for over 12 years is an insult to humanity.

• @therikeys Riley Murdock on x

  But what they're trying to do with these lawsuits (change the industry standard 30% platform cut) is good. Now here's the important part: you can think Epic is bad, as an entity, and still think what they're DOING is good. But people want to either HATE them or LOVE them.

• @jimsterling @jimsterling on x

  We should remember everything Epic is currently saying about Apple, just in case Epic ever gets that defacto monopoly it's angling for. We'll see how their stance on anti-corporate freedom fighting holds up.

• @slasher Rod Breslau on x

  if anyone was wondering, Valve and Gabe Newell are fully aligned on the side of Epic Games against Apple and their control of the ecosystem. from an interview with Gabe earlier this year Gaben x Sweeney united https://twitter.com/...

• @alexhern Alex Hern on x

  @charlesarthur @benthompson One reason I think Epic has a really good case compared to a lot of others is that they passed the discount on. American monopoly law is laser focused on cost to consumer, and Epic can now explicitly point to a case where the consumer is paying more in…

• @jstoff @jstoff on x

  Epic stands to make millions more *per week* if they skirt Apple's terms from Fortnite alone. Altruism is not Epic's motivation to spend this much cash on a lawsuit, it's a desire for new revenue growth. https://twitter.com/...

• @aydenpanhuyzen Ayden Panhuyzen on x

  This. I really hate seeing people say “why should I care? It's just 2 huge co's battling over money.” Epic is fighting for what indie devs have been complaining about for years. The minute someone with the money and reach to effectively do so joins in, we should just ignore it? h…

• @charlesarthur Charles Arthur on x

  @CompetitionProf problem: the “mobile” industry in this case includes Nintendo (Switch, on which Fortnite is also available), and the market for this game extends to game consoles and PCs. In that perspective, Apple and Google look more like retailers who charge higher markups.