The debate over TikTok is a chance to come up with a thoughtful model to regulate big tech companies, whether they're based in China, Copenhagen, or California
black-box algorithm, opaque moderation, unclear data custody — are issues with Facebook, YouTube, etc. as well. @hunterwalk : @alexstamos ""This is a chance to come up with a thoughtful model of how to regulate companies that operate in both the U.S. and China, no matter their ownership," he said." https://www.nytimes.com/... Jonathan Cheng / @jchengwsj : “I don't buy the argument that TikTok is an urgent threat to America's national security...If TikTok is a threat, so are WeChat, Alibaba and League of Legends...Banning every Chinese-owned tech company...wouldn't be possible without...our own...Great Wall.” https://www.nytimes.com/... Alex Sherman / @sherman4949 : This is the fundamental reason why ByteDance shouldn't sell — a different US presidential administration may have a different conclusion about TikTok: https://www.cnbc.com/... https://twitter.com/... Wagner James Au / @slhamlet : “Forcing TikTok to operate in a radically transparent way would go a long way toward assuaging Americans' fears. And it could become a test case for a new model of tech regulation that could improve the accountability of not just Chinese-owned tech companies but US ones, too.” https://twitter.com/... Andy Lalwani / @andylalwani : The government is truly just afraid of a powerful platform taking the wheel of a generation with the power to change tbh https://www.nytimes.com/... Keith Rabois / @rabois : @hunterwalk @alexstamos 1. There is no reason to allow China apps in the US until they allow unfettered access to US companies; 2. They are key element of the CCP. Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz : There are very real reasons to be skeptical of the motives of TikTok's biggest critics. Many conservative politicians, including Trump, appear to care more about appearing tough on China than preventing potential harm to TikTok users. https://www.nytimes.com/... Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz : Silicon Valley tech companies like Facebook, whose executives have warned of the dangers of a ‘Chinese tech takeover,’ would love to see regulators kneecap one of their major competitors. https://www.nytimes.com/... Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz : “At its core, a lot of the TikTok fear factor comes down to a lack of information... We should know these things — not just about TikTok, but about American social media apps, too.” https://www.nytimes.com/... Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz : “I don't buy the argument that TikTok is an urgent threat to U.S. national security. Or, to put it more precisely, I'm not convinced that TikTok is inherently more threatening to Americans than any other Chinese-owned app that collects data from Americans” https://www.nytimes.com/... Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz : Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Twitter and Snapchat are playing a huge role in the lives of millions of Americans, and for years, they have operated with a degree of secrecy that few other companies of their importance have been allowed. https://www.nytimes.com/... Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz : If TikTok is a threat, so are WeChat, Alibaba and League of Legends, the popular video game, whose maker, Riot Games, is owned by China's Tencent. https://www.nytimes.com/... Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz : Don't ban TikTok, make an example of it. There is plenty the U.S. government could do to ensure that TikTok acts responsibly without getting rid of it altogether. https://www.nytimes.com/... Alex Sherman / @sherman4949 : TikTok is considering setting up an independent board as one of its structural changes — a hodgepodge of actions like this (new HQ, etc.), rather than selling a majority stake, should probably be ByteDance's next step. https://twitter.com/... Matthew Zeitlin / @mattzeitlin : “In order to try and compete in the U.S. market, TikTok had no choice but to pay its future competitors billions of dollars in ads, giving up critical data on their targeting and successful installs along the way.” Facebook charges a toll via app install ads to any competitor https://twitter.com/... Margins / @readmargins : As Adam notes, TikTok was only able to find its footing in the US via spending upwards of a billion USD. It's hard to imagine any US-based competitor to Facebook having such deep pockets without having groomed itself in Chinese markets. This American Adam / @adamconner : Had a lot of fun thinking about what TikTok always being cited as a competitor to Facebook really means in today's @ReadMargins. Was on my mind ahead of Chairman @davidcicilline's now delayed @HouseJudiciary Antitrust hearing. Thanks to @ranjanxroy and @can for the opportunity! https://twitter.com/... @ruima : Good read but conveniently & inaccurately reduces the raging competition inside of China ByteDance had to overcome as “sheltered conditions.” So Chinese internet giants are not “real” competition, eh? https://twitter.com/... Avi Asher-Schapiro / @aaschapiro : What if the most important thing about TikTok is what it teaches us about Facebook's market dominance & how anti-competitive the social network market is? A smart piece by @adamconner: https://themargins.substack.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...
From what we know, it doesn't look like TikTok poses any more of a threat to national security than any other Chinese-owned app. And many of the issues with TikTok — black-box algorithm, opaque moderation, unclear data custody — are issues with Facebook, YouTube, etc. as well.
@alexstamos ""This is a chance to come up with a thoughtful model of how to regulate companies that operate in both the U.S. and China, no matter their ownership," he said." https://www.nytimes.com/...
“I don't buy the argument that TikTok is an urgent threat to America's national security...If TikTok is a threat, so are WeChat, Alibaba and League of Legends...Banning every Chinese-owned tech company...wouldn't be possible without...our own...Great Wall.” https://www.nytimes.co…
This is the fundamental reason why ByteDance shouldn't sell — a different US presidential administration may have a different conclusion about TikTok: https://www.cnbc.com/... https://twitter.com/...
“Forcing TikTok to operate in a radically transparent way would go a long way toward assuaging Americans' fears. And it could become a test case for a new model of tech regulation that could improve the accountability of not just Chinese-owned tech companies but US ones, too.” ht…
@hunterwalk @alexstamos 1. There is no reason to allow China apps in the US until they allow unfettered access to US companies; 2. They are key element of the CCP.
There are very real reasons to be skeptical of the motives of TikTok's biggest critics. Many conservative politicians, including Trump, appear to care more about appearing tough on China than preventing potential harm to TikTok users. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Silicon Valley tech companies like Facebook, whose executives have warned of the dangers of a ‘Chinese tech takeover,’ would love to see regulators kneecap one of their major competitors. https://www.nytimes.com/...
“At its core, a lot of the TikTok fear factor comes down to a lack of information... We should know these things — not just about TikTok, but about American social media apps, too.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
“I don't buy the argument that TikTok is an urgent threat to U.S. national security. Or, to put it more precisely, I'm not convinced that TikTok is inherently more threatening to Americans than any other Chinese-owned app that collects data from Americans” https://www.nytimes.com…
Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Twitter and Snapchat are playing a huge role in the lives of millions of Americans, and for years, they have operated with a degree of secrecy that few other companies of their importance have been allowed. https://www.nytimes.com/...
If TikTok is a threat, so are WeChat, Alibaba and League of Legends, the popular video game, whose maker, Riot Games, is owned by China's Tencent. https://www.nytimes.com/...
Don't ban TikTok, make an example of it. There is plenty the U.S. government could do to ensure that TikTok acts responsibly without getting rid of it altogether. https://www.nytimes.com/...
TikTok is considering setting up an independent board as one of its structural changes — a hodgepodge of actions like this (new HQ, etc.), rather than selling a majority stake, should probably be ByteDance's next step. https://twitter.com/...
“In order to try and compete in the U.S. market, TikTok had no choice but to pay its future competitors billions of dollars in ads, giving up critical data on their targeting and successful installs along the way.” Facebook charges a toll via app install ads to any competitor htt…
As Adam notes, TikTok was only able to find its footing in the US via spending upwards of a billion USD. It's hard to imagine any US-based competitor to Facebook having such deep pockets without having groomed itself in Chinese markets.
Had a lot of fun thinking about what TikTok always being cited as a competitor to Facebook really means in today's @ReadMargins. Was on my mind ahead of Chairman @davidcicilline's now delayed @HouseJudiciary Antitrust hearing. Thanks to @ranjanxroy and @can for the opportunity! h…
Good read but conveniently & inaccurately reduces the raging competition inside of China ByteDance had to overcome as “sheltered conditions.” So Chinese internet giants are not “real” competition, eh? https://twitter.com/...
What if the most important thing about TikTok is what it teaches us about Facebook's market dominance & how anti-competitive the social network market is? A smart piece by @adamconner: https://themargins.substack.com/ ... https://twitter.com/...