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Young people, who found an outlet for creative expression in TikTok amid lockdown, say a US ban would be devastating, as some flock to YouTube and Byte

if they can pull off lengthier vids. https://www.nytimes.com/... Siraj Hashmi / @sirajahashmi : “[TikTokers] have engaged in open revolt, retaliating by posting negative reviews of President Trump's 2020 campaign app. The app received more than 700 negative reviews on Wednesday and only 26 positive ones.” Trump will never recover from this. https://www.nytimes.com/... https://twitter.com/... Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz : TikTokers are scrambling to handle a potential ban: “I have 7M followers on TikTok, but it doesn't translate to every platform. I only have 3M on Insta and 500k on YouTube. No matter what it's going to be hard to transfer all the people I have on TikTok.” https://www.nytimes.com/... Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz : “I think a ban will drastically affect political commentary among teenagers. TikTok is an outlet for a lot of protest and activism and people talking about their political beliefs. Banning that would not carry well among people my age.” https://www.nytimes.com/... Peter Hamby / @peterhamby : House Democrats want the FTC to investigate TikTok, the DNC told campaign staffers to take it off their phones, and the U.S. Military has banned access to it. Concerns about the app aren't just a Trump thing. https://twitter.com/... Taylor Lorenz / @taylorlorenz : For many young people, TikTok has been an outlet for creative expression and human connection, especially throughout months of distance learning and social isolation. The threat of losing it is devastating. https://www.nytimes.com/... Joanna Stern / @joannastern : Have we really thought about what the kids of this nation will do if TikTok is taken away from them? @gregbensinger : ALL the apps collect data on you. The question is, where does that data go once collected. Amazon seems to have concluded TikTok is sending it back to China. @MikeIsaac @KYWeise https://www.nytimes.com/... Alex Heath / @alexeheath : “For Gen Z and Millennials, TikTok is our clubhouse and Trump threatened it,” said Yori Blacc, a 19-year-old TikTok user in California who joined in the app protest. “If you're going to mess with us, we will mess with you.” https://www.bloomberg.com/...

New York Times Taylor Lorenz

Context & Ripple Effects

This July 2020 piece captures the moment a possible US ban first hit the people who built their lives on the app: creators like Taylor Lorenz's source discovered that a 7M-follower TikTok account collapses to 500k on YouTube, so audience portability became the core problem overnight. The same week, the community answered politics with politics, flooding a flourishing online social space's critics with hundreds of negative reviews of President Trump's 2020 campaign app.

The arc since then runs through TikTok flying dozens of creators to Washington to lobby against a forced sale ahead of CEO Shou Zi Chew's testimony, Democrats warning that a ban could depress young voter turnout among the under-30 users who make up most of the base, and users with stigmatized interests or marginalized identities dreading the loss of communities that may not rebuild elsewhere.

First-order effects

  • Displaced creators face immediate audience loss — the quoted creator holds 7M followers on TikTok but only 500k on YouTube — pushing early migrations toward Byte and toward YouTube's lengthier formats.
  • TikTok's userbase retaliates directly against the ban's author: the Trump 2020 campaign app drew over 700 negative reviews in a day versus 26 positive ones.

Second-order effects

  • Byte and YouTube gain a windfall of proven short-video talent without paying for it, turning the ban threat into a free acquisition channel and sharpening format competition between them.
  • The backlash becomes a political liability that outlives 2020 — TikTok later converts this constituency into lobbying power by paying creators to visit DC, and Democrats weigh the ban's cost at the ballot box.

Third-order effects

  • If the pattern holds, creator constituencies become a standing force in platform regulation: the same leaders who championed the TikTok law later sought to delay it, suggesting organized users can bend enforcement timelines.
  • Communities concentrated on one politically exposed platform prove structurally fragile, pressuring creators toward multi-platform distribution as insurance rather than preference.

The trend: Geopolitically driven app bans are colliding with the creator economy, turning platform users into a lobbying constituency that shapes how — and whether — governments enforce bans.

Discussion

  • @drewholden360 Drew Holden on x
    Imagine thinking it was okay to tolerate the spyware of an autocratic regime because some kids will be upset that they can't broadcast their dance moves without it. https://twitter.com/...
  • @noonanjo John Noonan on x
    TikTok is Chinese malware that pilfers deeply personal data and information from users to the point where it approaches de facto identity theft. This information becomes privileged to agents of one of the most oppressive regimes on earth. There are safer ways to watch cat clips h…
  • @marymargolohan Mary Margaret Olohan on x
    Why the hell encourage young people to view a social media app as “a little bit of me” - particularly when talking about addressing loneliness?? Tik Tok is one of many social media apps chipping away at young people's mental health. https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @linzasaur Lindsay Dodgson on x
    I've never seen any platform generate the growth and views for new creators like Tiktok has in the last few years. Maybe vine but that was a select few rather than ANYONE. It's gonna be a huge loss for creators who have no idea what to do, @TaylorLorenz reports https://twitter.co…
  • @film_girl Christina Warren on x
    Anyone who thinks that kids will comply with any sort of TikTok ban don't remember what it is like to be a kid. They tried to ban Napster from us when I was a teen. Kazaa and Morpheus popped up. The teens are already making IGs about how to use VPNs and alt iTunes accounts
  • @loudmouthjulia Julia Alexander on x
    2016/2017 repeats. Viner invasion becomes TikTok invasion. Except algorithms have changed so it's not going to be the same kind of immediate skyrocketing from followers transferring. But! Moving to YouTube is smart — if they can pull off lengthier vids. https://www.nytimes.com/..…
  • @sirajahashmi Siraj Hashmi on x
    “[TikTokers] have engaged in open revolt, retaliating by posting negative reviews of President Trump's 2020 campaign app. The app received more than 700 negative reviews on Wednesday and only 26 positive ones.” Trump will never recover from this. https://www.nytimes.com/... https…
  • @taylorlorenz Taylor Lorenz on x
    TikTokers are scrambling to handle a potential ban: “I have 7M followers on TikTok, but it doesn't translate to every platform. I only have 3M on Insta and 500k on YouTube. No matter what it's going to be hard to transfer all the people I have on TikTok.” https://www.nytimes.com/…
  • @taylorlorenz Taylor Lorenz on x
    “I think a ban will drastically affect political commentary among teenagers. TikTok is an outlet for a lot of protest and activism and people talking about their political beliefs. Banning that would not carry well among people my age.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @peterhamby Peter Hamby on x
    House Democrats want the FTC to investigate TikTok, the DNC told campaign staffers to take it off their phones, and the U.S. Military has banned access to it. Concerns about the app aren't just a Trump thing. https://twitter.com/...
  • @taylorlorenz Taylor Lorenz on x
    For many young people, TikTok has been an outlet for creative expression and human connection, especially throughout months of distance learning and social isolation. The threat of losing it is devastating. https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @joannastern Joanna Stern on x
    Have we really thought about what the kids of this nation will do if TikTok is taken away from them?
  • @gregbensinger @gregbensinger on x
    ALL the apps collect data on you. The question is, where does that data go once collected. Amazon seems to have concluded TikTok is sending it back to China. @MikeIsaac @KYWeise https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @alexeheath Alex Heath on x
    “For Gen Z and Millennials, TikTok is our clubhouse and Trump threatened it,” said Yori Blacc, a 19-year-old TikTok user in California who joined in the app protest. “If you're going to mess with us, we will mess with you.” https://www.bloomberg.com/...