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At an All-In Podcast summit, President Trump said forcing AI firms to pay for each copyrighted work is “not doable”, calling for “common sense” AI and IP rules

Donald Trump said that AI companies can't be expected to pay for the use of copyrighted content in their systems …

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  • @kaplanikids Jenna Constantine PhD on bluesky
    The plan is a contrast to Trump's predecessor, Joe Biden, who focused on the government's role in ensuring that the technology was safe.  —  deadline.com/2025/07/trum...
  • @nathangrayson Nathan Grayson on bluesky
    fun that “AI doesn't work unless you steal” is government policy now, but so is “stealing is ok” [embedded post]
  • @ericrubenlaw @ericrubenlaw on bluesky
    I'm curious if any major agencies (CAA, WME etc.) or their agents will weigh in.  Not only should the protect their clients, but are they ok with losing their 10% on such a large scale? [embedded post]
  • @chup.blakereid.org Blake E. Reid on bluesky
    There are three AI/© truisms, of which ignorance of any one will start a fight:  —  (1) There are some copyright-relevant events in the AI supply chain.  —  (2) Copyright is not an all-purpose AI policy regime.  —  (3) Copyright is the ~only hard-law AI regulation that will exist…
  • @thezvi Zvi Mowshowitz on x
    In things that are easy to miss, I notice he says ‘right now we are leading China very substantially [in AI].’
  • @acyn @acyn on x
    Trump: You can't be expected to have a successful AI program when every single article, book, or anything else that you have read or studied, you are supposed to pay for.. it is not doable. When a person reads a book or an article, you've gained great knowledge. That does not [vi…
  • @brianlfrye Brian L. Frye on x
    Big surprise. As I've observed many times, there is just no planet on which the US government is going to say, “Oh well, I guess training AI is copyright infringing, we'll have to leave it to China.” And I don't think courts will either.
  • @brendengallager Brenden Gallagher on x
    Why would this technology be exempt from copyright law that protected works for decades before this? Because rich people own the tech? Why were Napster or Limewire illegal and this is fine?
  • @rabois Keith Rabois on x
    “America's unique advantage in AI... is Donald Trump.” —Jensen [video]
  • @eastdakota Matthew Prince on x
    With all do respect, looking forward to proving the President wrong.
  • @ikrietzberg Ian Krietzberg on x
    Trump just weighed in very strongly on AI x copyright rules, which is interesting considering that the action plan doesn't make any mention of copyright - the one SV wish that didn't make it into the plan.
  • @benbrodydc Ben Brody on x
    Wow, a big thing the Action Plan didn't weigh in on was IP.  (They were leaving it to the courts.)  But Trump is jumping in, saying model developers can't pay for every piece of content they use for training
  • r/inthenews r on reddit
    Trump Says He's ‘Getting Rid of Woke’ and Dismisses Copyright Concerns in AI Policy Speech
  • @spencerdailey Spencer Dailey on bluesky
    Imagine if any other admin tried to pull this level of censorship.  It will sadly have a massive effect on AIs' usefulness and truth relaying abilities & should scare the shit out of all of us, esp. people that work at AI labs.  The odds that their work will fuel Orwell's fever d…
  • @fightforthefuture.org @fightforthefuture.org on bluesky
    Yesterday the Trump administration released their official AI Action Plan, which (surprise!) is another major hand-out to Big Tech + Big Oil at the expense of everyday, working class people.  —  www.ai.gov/action-plan?...
  • @joshsternberg.com Josh Sternberg on bluesky
    Curios as to why this sentence is here.  And curious as to why there's no mention of liberals' concerns of the technology.  The piece lays out the President's proposed policy, but this seems to be the only sentence about politics.  —  www.nytimes.com/2025/07/23/t...  [image]
  • @markriedl Mark Riedl on bluesky
    The White House's new AI Action plan is out www.ai.gov/action-plan  —  As expected, it puts the squeeze on AI companies by requiring them to make AI systems that are “objective and free from top-down ideological bias” (aka “not woke").  [image]
  • @mmitchell Margaret Mitchell on bluesky
    The wording of “top-down” ideological bias is apt here..."top-down" bias is put in place to balance “bottom-up” bias.  —  E.g., If something coming up from the bottom leans to the left, you lean it to the right at the top to make it straight.  [embedded post]
  • @markriedl Mark Riedl on bluesky
    “top-down ideological bias” might give AI companies some wiggle room to attest that they are not doing “woke” post-training.  —  How does one prove that an LLM response the Right doesn't like wasn't because of post-training?  “Ideological bias” is ill-defined and can change on a …
  • @Dhmspector@mastodon.social Dave Spector on mastodon
    Given, whether we like it or not, students at all levels are using LLMs as integral learning tools, dictating the training data is no different than than Stalin dictating what was acceptable areas of study in physics or other disciplines.  The outcome crippled Soviet science for …
  • @luke_metro @luke_metro on x
    The procurement guidelines seem good but this is basically what frontier labs are doing anyways, and gov contracting is small potatoes relative to the commercial market so it's unclear how big the incentive really is
  • @edludlow Ed Ludlow on x
    Jacob Helberg seemed an important conversation to have today. His view on the AI Action Plan. POTUS later noted (in speech) the role he might play as Undersecretary Under Secretary of State for Economic Growth (designate). Welcome feedback @jacobhelberg https://www.youtube.com/..…
  • @autismcapital @autismcapital on x
    REPORTER: “Does President Trump support federal agencies contracting with Elon Musk's AI company?” LEAVITT: “I don't think so, no.” REPORTER: “So he would want the DOJ to cancel the contract with Elon.” LEAVITT: “I'll talk to him about it, yes.” [video]
  • @davidsacks David Sacks on x
    When they asked me how to define “woke,” I said there's only one person to call: Chris Rufo. And now it's law: the federal government will not be buying WokeAI.
  • @luke_metro @luke_metro on x
    IMO it's near-impossible to regulate LLM outputs at a federal level since code is speech and forcing AI to be “unbiased” would be compelled speech But real plan feels like just yelling about anti-conservative bias at congressional hearings (like with social media post-2016!)
  • @realchrisrufo Christopher F. Rufo on x
    This is an extremely important measure and I'm proud to have given some minor input on how to define “woke AI” and identify DEI ideologies within the operating constitutions of these systems. Congrats to @DavidSacks, @sriramk, @deanwball, and the team!
  • @erratarob Robert Graham on x
    Trump has revealed his AI action plan. Among the items is to make sure AI will have a right-wing, Trumpist ideological bias. [image]
  • r/technology r on reddit
    President Trump: It's Not Doable for AI Companies to Pay for All Copyrighted Input
  • r/FreeSpeech r on reddit
    Trump's ‘anti-woke AI’ order could reshape how US tech companies train their models
  • r/technology r on reddit
    Trump Administration Plans to Give A.I. Developers a Free Hand
  • @wavesblog Simonetta Vezzoso on bluesky
    ""I figured we could go in and we could sort of break them up a little bit, get them a little competition, and I found out it's not easy in that business," Trump added" What was he told exactly, but, especially, by whom? [embedded post]
  • r/NVDA_Stock r on reddit
    Trump Weighed Nvidia Breakup But Was Told It'd Be ‘Hard’