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Sources: OpenAI is in early talks to raise up to $40B at a $340B valuation; the startup was last valued at $157B in October, when it raised $6.6B

I'm old enough to remember when $6.6B was an unheard of amount of money for a startup to be raising. Bluesky: Ed Zitron / @edzitron.com : I LOVE Masayoshi Son.  The entire generative AI market is potentially collapsing and he's screaming “BET IT ALL ON RED” [embedded post] @trappercreek : Market cap couldn't possibly grow faster than Sam Altman's ego, could it? @timothydardar : No thanks, I'll take the free version from China [embedded post] @transylvaniantwist : Imagine what that money could do if invested in childhood education.  Or subsidizing childcare?  Or career training programs for non-college grads. Klendathu Baraka Nickatnite / @jcl68nyr : Even after deepseek?  Huh X: Hiroo Onoda / @onodacapital : $25B at $340B post [image] Gary Marcus / @garymarcus : Warning: Masa's proposed doubling of OpenAI funding seems to me like an effort at building a monopoly that will stifle innovation elsewhere. That may ultimately further erode the US lead in AI, if he is betting on the wrong horse, and more innovative startups are priced out of Tae Kim / @firstadopter : The funniest irony is primary reason Masa has the financial wherewithal to invest in Stargate/OpenAI, funding these massive GPU clusters, is global regulators blocked his deal to sell Arm to Nvidia on the cheap. Otherwise, the upside ($100 billion+) would have accrued to Nvidia. @buccocapital : OpenAI = $340B Salesforce = $330B I'm sure Benioff will handle the news just fine [image] Gary Marcus / @garymarcus : WeWork was a bargain! @wholemarsblog : but but deepseek... @tmnxeq : OpenAI targeting a casual $40bn fundraise, more than doubling it's valuation since last Oct 🤡 Jacob Silverman / @silvermanjacob : Just got shown up by DeepSeek for a fraction of the cost but the answer is more money, more compute, and allying with Trump. Forums: r/singularity : OpenAI in Talks for Huge Investment Round Valuing It Up to $340 Billion |  SoftBank would lead $40 billion round for the ChatGPT maker, some of which would go to Stargate AI infrastructure venture

Wall Street Journal

Context & Ripple Effects

OpenAI had already been exploring a more investor-friendly structure, including the possible removal of limits on investor profits, in earlier restructuring discussions. That makes a proposed raise of this size relevant not just as financing, but as a test of whether its corporate setup can accommodate ever-larger outside commitments.

The talks also sit alongside Stargate, whose rollout raised questions about funding capacity and project scope in early scrutiny of the infrastructure venture. The reported allocation of some proceeds to Stargate ties OpenAI's valuation directly to the cost of expanding AI infrastructure.

First-order effects

  • OpenAI gains a potential route to fund model development and infrastructure commitments at a sharply higher valuation than its October round, if the talks produce a deal.
  • SoftBank and other prospective backers would be asked to underwrite both OpenAI's operating ambitions and part of the capital needs associated with Stargate.

Second-order effects

  • A large OpenAI round would raise the financing benchmark for other frontier-model developers, while concentrating investor attention on companies able to secure compute and long-duration capital.
  • GPU and infrastructure suppliers could see demand expectations reinforced, but the economics of projects such as Stargate become more dependent on continued access to large private funding rounds.

Third-order effects

  • If repeated, such rounds would shift frontier AI competition further from software fundraising toward capital-intensive infrastructure financing, favoring labs with deep strategic backers.
  • The proposed valuation jump also increases pressure to align corporate governance, investor economics, and infrastructure spending—an unresolved tension highlighted by OpenAI's restructuring discussions.

The trend: Frontier AI is becoming a compute-finance market in which model leadership increasingly depends on securing infrastructure-scale capital.

Discussion

  • @edzitron.com Ed Zitron on bluesky
    I LOVE Masayoshi Son.  The entire generative AI market is potentially collapsing and he's screaming “BET IT ALL ON RED” [embedded post]
  • @trappercreek @trappercreek on bluesky
    Market cap couldn't possibly grow faster than Sam Altman's ego, could it?
  • @timothydardar @timothydardar on bluesky
    No thanks, I'll take the free version from China [embedded post]
  • @transylvaniantwist @transylvaniantwist on bluesky
    Imagine what that money could do if invested in childhood education.  Or subsidizing childcare?  Or career training programs for non-college grads.
  • @jcl68nyr Klendathu Baraka Nickatnite on bluesky
    Even after deepseek?  Huh
  • @onodacapital Hiroo Onoda on x
    $25B at $340B post [image]
  • @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x
    Warning: Masa's proposed doubling of OpenAI funding seems to me like an effort at building a monopoly that will stifle innovation elsewhere. That may ultimately further erode the US lead in AI, if he is betting on the wrong horse, and more innovative startups are priced out of
  • @firstadopter Tae Kim on x
    The funniest irony is primary reason Masa has the financial wherewithal to invest in Stargate/OpenAI, funding these massive GPU clusters, is global regulators blocked his deal to sell Arm to Nvidia on the cheap. Otherwise, the upside ($100 billion+) would have accrued to Nvidia.
  • @buccocapital @buccocapital on x
    OpenAI = $340B Salesforce = $330B I'm sure Benioff will handle the news just fine [image]
  • @garymarcus Gary Marcus on x
    WeWork was a bargain!
  • @wholemarsblog @wholemarsblog on x
    but but deepseek...
  • @tmnxeq @tmnxeq on x
    OpenAI targeting a casual $40bn fundraise, more than doubling it's valuation since last Oct 🤡
  • @silvermanjacob Jacob Silverman on x
    Just got shown up by DeepSeek for a fraction of the cost but the answer is more money, more compute, and allying with Trump.
  • r/singularity r on reddit
    OpenAI in Talks for Huge Investment Round Valuing It Up to $340 Billion |  SoftBank would lead $40 billion round for the ChatGPT maker, some of which would go to Stargate AI infrastructure venture