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David Sacks says there's “substantial evidence” that DeepSeek “distilled knowledge out of OpenAI models and I don't think OpenAI is very happy about this”

White House artificial intelligence czar David Sacks said there's “substantial evidence” …

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  • @dbsmasher.com @dbsmasher.com on bluesky
    Open AI trained its models on copyrighted data and they didn't feel any qualms.  —  The world's tiniest violin really.  [embedded post]
  • @quinnypig.com Corey Quinn on bluesky
    Company that ripped off the entire internet incensed that the shoe is suddenly on the other foot: [embedded post]
  • @brettfavaro Brett Favaro on bluesky
    *makes giant plagiarism engine*  —  Hey don't copy me you copycat! [embedded post]
  • @daledoback3 Dale Doback on bluesky
    So, wait, they got Pied Pipered in real life?
  • @brianstorms Brian Dear on bluesky
    I so very much . . . do not give a flying F what's causing David Sacks a sad.
  • @micah541 Micah Warren on bluesky
    Isn't the entire fucking point of AI to distill what others have created?  Sounds like they did it better than any of your companies, David.  [embedded post]
  • @karlbode.com Karl Bode on bluesky
    they're gonna spend a few weeks throwing excuses at the wall to explain why they were out-innovated by china (again) and ultimately land on xenophobic fear mongering (again)
  • @jetjocko Adam Rogers on bluesky
    What I've read so far, the “evidence” is that they can't figure out how else DeepSeek could've done it, which, hrm.  —  Also, *if* someone stole OpenAI's data, call the police, using copyrighted material without paying its creators is a crime, good point.  —  techcrunch.com/2025/…
  • @rtm223.me Richard Meredith on bluesky
    Oh, wow.  Apparently using other peoples' IP to train an AI model is theft now, is it?  Weird how that changed so very quickly 🤔  —  techcrunch.com/2025/01/28/d...
  • @billbennett@mastodon.nz Bill Bennett on mastodon
    The irony of a US-owned intellectual property stealing technology accusing Chinese-owned intellection property stealing technology of stealing American IP.  You could not make this stuff up.  —  https://www.reuters.com/...
  • @tsarnick @tsarnick on x
    Asked if China's DeepSeek stole American IP, AI Czar David Sacks says it looks like a technique called distillation was used where a student model can “suck the knowledge” out of the parent model and there is evidence that DeepSeek distilled knowledge from OpenAI's models, which …
  • @menhguin Minh Nhat Nguyen on x
    after seeing finance people attempt to explain evil Chinese concepts like open source, distillation and GPU training, i no longer think the average person can adapt to AI
  • @yacinemtb Kache on x
    noooo deepseek is a psyop nooo muh tik tok muh ccp mu- *company trains an AI to refuse your requests when you want smut* *company makes it lock down and say “policy, you are a bad person"* *ceo goes to biden and then lobbies to make it illegal to train ai so he can maintain a
  • @yacinemtb Kache on x
    student model suck the knowledge out of the parent model until i distill
  • @autismcapital @autismcapital on x
    🚨NEW: David Sacks, AI and Crypto Czar (@DavidSacks) speaks about DeepSeek and the implications for National Security on FOX News [video]
  • @alexandr_wang Alexandr Wang on x
    What does DeepSeek R1 & v3 mean for LLM data?  Contrary to some lazy takes I've seen, DeepSeek R1 was trained on a shit ton of human-generated data - in fact, the DeepSeek models are setting records for the disclosed amount of post-training data for open-source models...
  • @gfodor @gfodor on x
    make it stop, please, i can't take anymore
  • @aravsrinivas Aravind Srinivas on x
    There's a lot of misconception that China “just cloned” the outputs of openai.  This is far from true and reflects incomplete understanding of how these models are trained in the first place.  DeepSeek R1 has figured out RL finetuning...
  • r/technology r on reddit
    White House “looking into” national security implications of DeepSeek's AI