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• @oompa.org @oompa.org on bluesky

  Nothing wrong with wanting to make money, but there is something wrong in making the rest of the world think your motives are really altruistic.  [embedded post]

• @righteoushazard @righteoushazard on bluesky

  Arthur C Clark and Stanley Kubrick really had us thinking the AGI problem was gonna be it locking us outside the airlock or something  —  bsky.app/profile/tech...  [embedded post]

• @golikehellmachine.com @golikehellmachine.com on bluesky

  you almost kind of have to hand it to MSFT here, they figured out how to avoid buying the cow while getting the milk for free

• @evacide @evacide on bluesky

  “The two companies reportedly signed an agreement last year stating OpenAI has only achieved AGI when it develops AI systems that can generate at least $100 billion in profits.”  —  “AGI is when I have heaps of money,” is one hell of a position.  —  techcrunch.com/2024/12/26/m...

• @marypcbuk Mary Branscombe on bluesky

  if it's better than most people at making money may *not* be the definition we want for AGI but I wonder if this was a riposte to the 'we'll know it when we see it and we get to decide' proposal from OpenAI [embedded post]

• @eliotkjones @eliotkjones on bluesky

  This... might just be one of the dumbest things ever [embedded post]

• @penllawen.favrd.social Richard Gaywood on bluesky

  that's not how scientific breakthroughs work, and it's not even close [embedded post]

• @bladesjester James Hollingshead on bluesky

  What the actual eff?  “AGI” is an LLM that's profitable?  —  And the sad thing is that people who don't know better (which is most people.  Honestly even a lot of people in tech) and will claim that they're right.  [embedded post]

• @dani.cool Dani on bluesky

  capitalists have a literally one-dimensional view of the world [embedded post]

• @paulmainwood @paulmainwood on bluesky

  Wonder what other philosophical problems could be resolved by setting a market cap number.  [embedded post]

• @chaosgreml.in Bryan Guffey on bluesky

  I mean, at least we now know we don't have to take their definition even the least bit seriously.  —  “OpenAI declares AGI”  —  “Yeah, yeah, you just hit a revenue target.  This thing still chokes on my prompts at least once a day.”  [embedded post]

• @thisiselena Elena Perez on bluesky

  new kind of black hole dropped [embedded post]

• @meredithmeredith Meredith Whittaker on bluesky

  Complete knowledge of the full majesty of universal creation in all its divine facets is when I own an island.  [embedded post]

• @edzitron.com Ed Zitron on bluesky

  How the hell does something's profitability connect to whether it's AGI?  Also how about an AI system that generates profits of any kind lol  —  www.theinformation.com/articles/ mic...  [embedded post]

• @hypervisible @hypervisible on bluesky

  Rubes out here trying to pin down a definition when the companies agree that true AGI is when they generate earth shattering profits.

• @goldstein @goldstein on bluesky

  LMAO.  They're starting to redefine AGI the same way they did AI.

• @andrewhinton Andrew Hinton on bluesky

  Seems kinda on the nose that billionaires would use “makes enough billions” as their metric for the point where “AI” becomes generally “intelligent” [embedded post]

• @basilevs83 Vasili Gulevich on bluesky

  It is a much better definition than many.  People constantly argue about intelligence and consciousness.  Can't argue about cash.

• @intrinsicmode.com Byron Galbraith on bluesky

  Agreed-upon Gross Income [embedded post]

• @xxiainxx @xxiainxx on bluesky

  So never then [embedded post]

• @stevenbock.me Steven Bock on bluesky

  What was the first time?  I haven't been keeping up with the AGI definitions - too busy building stuff.

• @markriedl Mark Riedl on bluesky

  Words don't mean anything anymore [embedded post]

• @mrmandolino.itch.io Mando on bluesky

  two things on this  —  one: the utter grotesquery of first redefining what “artificial intelligence” is and then arbitrarily say “actually the real artificial intelligence is when product makes this much money”  —  two: they're never gonna get there, and while they try, Microsoft…

• @caezar.io @caezar.io on bluesky

  That's the second time Sam Altman admitted that OpenAI cannot see any path to AGI.  With one more we should then start to see a scale adjustment as they try to produce marginal revenue per transaction.  —  Short of revolution, it sure sounds like the pipe dream is in for an adjus…

• @mrhands31 Mr. Hands on bluesky

  Sentience is when a corporation paperclip maximizes its way to Love [embedded post]

• @mattsiegel Matt Siegel on bluesky

  this is a very good definition if you're a soulless capitalist!

• @rtm223.me Richard Meredith on bluesky

  Extremely funny that they  —  A) have so little idea what they are making that they have to define AGI by profitability  —  B) think OpenAI will generate $100B in profit [embedded post]

• @kbsutt @kbsutt on bluesky

  What a useless definition!  —  Words mean things!  —  Also, this doesn't really explain why Altman has more recently sought to redefine AGI to the point of meaninglessness.  If their contract defines it in terms of revenue, then he can't just get out of it by waving his hands and…

• @idthemike.xyz @idthemike.xyz on bluesky

  Jokes aside, this is basically the 2 most advanced AI players in the market admitting that AGI ain't ever happening [embedded post]

• @firepile Robin Z on bluesky

  A Christmas Carol but it's the ghosts of Alan Turing, Ada Lovelace, and Joseph Weizenbaum haunting the absolute fuck out of Sam Altman.  Just following him around and heckling him 24/7.  [embedded post]

• @magex Mage on bluesky

  I hope they never achieve it.  We have to fight the AI pandemic [embedded post]

• @joshuaerlich Joshua Erlich on bluesky

  defining general intelligence by its profitability is too on the nose to joke about.  i've got nothing left.  [embedded post]

• @alondra Alondra Nelson on bluesky

  AGI = Automated Gross Income [embedded post]

• @frankenmizer @frankenmizer on bluesky

  That's a new definition of AGI..  —  bsky.app/profile/tech...  [embedded post]

• @daniloc.xyz Danilo on bluesky

  Hahahahahaha  —  Defining “AGI” in terms of scale of margin is a perfect way to capture the lack of imagination that pervades today's power  —  We have only one true god, and he's playing the smallest game imaginable [embedded post]

• @bgurley Bill Gurley on x

  I hope this contract is published one day. Will make a great case study. A golf bettor friend of mine says “most bets are won before the first tee.”

• @privacymatters @privacymatters on x

  What a definition. 🙇‍♂️ And what of the appropriated content in that evaluation?

• @steph_palazzolo Stephanie Palazzolo on x

  Microsoft and OpenAI have put a price tag on AGI: $100B in profits. For more, check out this morning's AI Agenda: https://www.theinformation.com/ ...

• @tolgabilge_ Tolga Bilge on x

  New definition of AGI just dropped: it's after Microsoft and other investors manage to get $100B profit from OpenAI models

• @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x

  As @theinformation writes, OpenAI has now developed a new definition for AGI. While the definition otherwise focuses primarily on technical details, OpenAI now wants to make it revenue-based. In short: AGI = 100b in revenue. Ultimately, it also fits with Level 5 AGI that an AI [i…

• @parismarx Paris Marx on x

  If AGI is simply an AI system that generates $100 billion in profit, it might be farther away than even the critics believed. https://gizmodo.com/...

• @davidad @davidad on x

  In a slow takeoff timeline, many things that were often synonymous from a speculative distance come apart. For example, what many people really meant by AGI was “transformative AI,” e.g. an AI agent that makes more total profit than Airbus, Citigroup, and General Motors combined.

• @lessin @lessin on x

  Good reporting and pretty hilarious from @theinformation / openai-microsoft deal defines AGI as generating “100b in profits” ... very hitchhikers guide to the galaxy-esque definition. [image]

• @peterwildeford Peter Wildeford on x

  Interesting - According to The Information, OpenAI and Microsoft have formally defined AGI as reaching $100 billion in profits. It's implied that OpenAI doesn't think they'll reach this milestone until 2030 or later.

• @ai_for_success AshutoshShrivastava on x

  Don't mess with Satya: “AGI will be achieved only when OpenAI develops systems capable of generating maximum total profits, and that number is close to $100 billion.” While everyone, including OpenAI employees, was feeling the AGI vibes after the o3 announcement, Microsoft made […

• @btibor91 Tibor Blaho on x

  The Information reports that Microsoft and OpenAI are negotiating their partnership terms as OpenAI CEO Sam Altman wants to convert the company into a for-profit corporation, with last year's agreement between the companies defining AGI as systems with ability to generate about […

• @daniel_271828 Daniel Eth on x

  Thesis: AGI stands for “artificial general intelligence” Antithesis: AGI stands for “adjusted gross income” Synthesis:

• @mer__edith Meredith Whittaker on x

  Complete knowledge of the full majesty of universal creation in all its divine facets is when I own an island.

• @jjaron Jacob Aron on x

  Genuinely hilarious definition. Is Aramco AGI?

• @amir Amir Efrati on x

  there is still some ambiguity in the contract but it's not as hazy as AGI is “systems that outperform people at most economically valuable work,” which is how OpenAI's website defines it.

• @silvermanjacob Jacob Silverman on x

  So AGI is a pie in the sky KPI, not a discrete innovation or achievement

• @aaronpholmes Aaron Holmes on x

  OpenAI can't just declare AGI whenever it wants and be free of Microsoft. The companies actually have a contractual definition of AGI: a system that can generate $100 billion in profits. Great reporting from @amir and @steph_palazzolo: https://www.theinformation.com/ ...

• @amir Amir Efrati on x

  You didn't really think Microsoft—a $3T company with a shrewd CEO—would let OpenAI declare AGI based on a subjective, hazy definition, did you? LINK: [image]

• @amir Amir Efrati on x

  New: The AGI debate can come to an end. To OpenAI and Microsoft, AGI means OpenAI getting to a profit level almost no company has achieved before... [image]

• r/singularity r on reddit

  Leaked Documents Show OpenAI Has a Very Clear Definition of ‘AGI.’ “AGI will be achieved once OpenAI has developed an AI system that can generate at least $100 billion in profits.”

• r/technology r on reddit

  Leaked Documents Show OpenAI Has a Very Clear Definition of ‘AGI.’ “AGI will be achieved once OpenAI has developed an AI system that can generate at least $100 billion in profits.”

• @chetanp Chetan Puttagunta on x

  New details here about the Microsoft/ Open AI partnership are fascinating. The various scenarios of how this partnership plays out will ripple through the ecosystem. Most interestingly: will Open AI models be available on AWS? Will Microsoft invest billions in other models?

• @danielnewmanuv Daniel Newman on x

  OpenAI and Microsoft appear to be in discussions of a restructured partnership. As far as I'm concerned, this has been one of the worst kept secrets in the industry. The friction has been obvious. Microsoft also showed some concerned with the drama and churn at OpenAI and

• @jezcorden Jez on x

  I haven't seen a single report that suggests OpenAI and Microsoft actually enjoy their partnership lol. https://www.windowscentral.com/ ...