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Sources: TSMC's execs took to calling Sam Altman a “podcasting bro” after he said it would take $7T and many years to build 36 chip plants to fulfill his vision

OpenAI CEO made absurd requests for 36 fabs for $7 trillion Zo Ahmed / TechSpot : OpenAI's Sam Altman dismissed as “podcasting bro” by TSMC over $7 trillion proposal Kevin Okemwa / Windows Central : OpenAI CEO Sam Altman branded “podcasting bro” for his reportedly absurd plan to “take $7 trillion and many years to build 36 semiconductor plants … Andrew Tarantola / Digital Trends : TSMC rejects ‘Podcasting Bro’ Sam Altman's $7 trillion fab plan Mastodon: Shoshana / @LilahTovMoon@tech.lgbt : It's happened.  OpenAI wants to use more electricity than bitcoin (2-4x more).  —  They want five to seven 5 gigawatt data centers 🤯  —  OpenAI also wants 36 new semiconductor manufacturing facilities.  TSMC is the largest semiconductor manufacturer and the only leading-edge manufacturer and they have 18. … Jason Lefkowitz / @jalefkowit@vmst.io : Ow.  Ow ow ow.  That is just a savage burn  —  https://www.nytimes.com/...  [image] Bluesky: @indaindica.bsky.social : Yet, it would cost nothing to NOT build those plants.  Clearly the better decision.  [embedded post] @marsrover.bsky.social : OK but I would absolutely listen to hours upon hours of TSMC guys just absolutely roasting the shit out of Valley bros & VCs. Mikal Lewis / @mikal-el.com : We're past the era where we should empower pro-computing voices that aren't vigorously exploring the paradox of sustainable computing.  —  Headlines about cloud computing expansion and hurricane impact don't belong in the same news cycle.  [embedded post] @fluxandflow.bsky.social : I cannot articulate how happy it makes me that he was shot down and ridiculed by TSMC.  [embedded post] Ingrid Burrington / @lifewinning.com : I promise once we spend 1/10th of the GDP of the fuckin planet this tech that currently loses billions of dollars will be profitable!!  What a clown [embedded post] X: Steve Lohr / @stevelohr : Tracking the Sam Altman road show to drum up global support for a massive data-center and chip-factory investment plan. @CadeMetz + @trippmickle https://www.nytimes.com/... Ed Zitron / @edzitron : This article is really good, but also shows that Altman lacks the juice and know-how to actually turn the wheels of power beyond money. https://www.nytimes.com/... [image] LinkedIn: Amanda Brock : It's not just OpenAI who are flagging that data centres are central to AI.  Without the critical infrastructure enabled by these and the appropriate networks we'll … James Teare : Last week data centres were declared to be critical national infrastructure in the UK.  They're certainly critical to AI … Angela Chapman : Modern AI is already notorious for being energy-hungry, and it's about to get worse!  OpenAI is in the spotlight for planning some of the biggest data centers ever to power its next wave of products. … Forums: Hacker News : Behind OpenAI's plan to make A.I. flow like electricity r/ArtistHate : OpenAI reportedly wants to build ‘five to seven’ 5 gigawatt data centers — 'You're talking about more than 1% of global electricity consumption for just those datacenters alone' r/singularity : Behind OpenAI's Audacious Plan to Make A.I. Flow Like Electricity (Gift Article) (2024-09-25)

New York Times

Context & Ripple Effects

Altman's earlier account framed the $7 trillion figure as total investment across a multiyear chip initiative, including real estate—not simply the cost of fabs themselves. That earlier clarification of the $7T estimate makes TSMC's reported reaction a test of whether an AI buyer's infrastructure ambition can translate into an executable manufacturing program.

The proposal also sits beside coverage of AI's growing electricity needs and companies' search for new clean-power sources, including experimental power projects for AI demand. It underscores that chip capacity is only one constraint in a larger buildout.

First-order effects

  • TSMC's reported dismissal deprives Altman's proposed buildout of credibility from the leading contract-chip manufacturer; the report indicates no aligned manufacturing partner for the stated plan.
  • The episode raises the execution bar for OpenAI's infrastructure pitch: a plan spanning fabs, sites, capital and long lead times must persuade industrial operators, not only investors.

Second-order effects

  • Prospective fab partners, financiers and equipment suppliers are likely to demand clearer sequencing, funding and customer commitments before allocating capacity to similarly large AI-driven manufacturing proposals.
  • AI companies seeking more compute remain more dependent on existing semiconductor supply chains while any greenfield capacity plan clears practical manufacturing and power constraints.

Third-order effects

  • If AI demand continues to outpace readily available compute, competitive advantage will depend increasingly on coordinating finance, chip manufacturing, real estate and electricity—not merely forecasting model demand.
  • The broader constraint may shift from access to chips alone toward financeable, power-connected infrastructure, making large AI capacity programs resemble utility-scale industrial projects.

The trend: AI compute expansion is turning from a chip-procurement race into an infrastructure-execution challenge spanning fabs, capital and power.

Discussion

  • @indaindica.bsky.social @indaindica.bsky.social on bluesky
    Yet, it would cost nothing to NOT build those plants.  Clearly the better decision.  [embedded post]
  • @marsrover.bsky.social @marsrover.bsky.social on bluesky
    OK but I would absolutely listen to hours upon hours of TSMC guys just absolutely roasting the shit out of Valley bros & VCs.
  • @mikal-el.com Mikal Lewis on bluesky
    We're past the era where we should empower pro-computing voices that aren't vigorously exploring the paradox of sustainable computing.  —  Headlines about cloud computing expansion and hurricane impact don't belong in the same news cycle.  [embedded post]
  • @fluxandflow.bsky.social @fluxandflow.bsky.social on bluesky
    I cannot articulate how happy it makes me that he was shot down and ridiculed by TSMC.  [embedded post]
  • @lifewinning.com Ingrid Burrington on bluesky
    I promise once we spend 1/10th of the GDP of the fuckin planet this tech that currently loses billions of dollars will be profitable!!  What a clown [embedded post]
  • @stevelohr Steve Lohr on x
    Tracking the Sam Altman road show to drum up global support for a massive data-center and chip-factory investment plan. @CadeMetz + @trippmickle https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @edzitron Ed Zitron on x
    This article is really good, but also shows that Altman lacks the juice and know-how to actually turn the wheels of power beyond money. https://www.nytimes.com/... [image]
  • r/ArtistHate r on reddit
    OpenAI reportedly wants to build ‘five to seven’ 5 gigawatt data centers — 'You're talking about more than 1% of global electricity consumption for just those datacenters alone'
  • r/singularity r on reddit
    Behind OpenAI's Audacious Plan to Make A.I. Flow Like Electricity (Gift Article) (2024-09-25)