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• @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on threads

  Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

• @sadsonya4 @sadsonya4 on x

  Alright. Let me get this straight. The Brazilian government asked Musk to ban 7 accounts. That's it. Instead of banning the 7 accounts, Musk decided to lose Brazil, even though Brazil is the 3rd largest user of Twitter. Musk then exposes the actual names of the 7 accounts? What?

• @deanbaker13 Dean Baker on x

  As my people would say about Musk's refusal to comply with requests from the Brazilian government, when he has gone along with requests from pretty much every right-wing government, “why is this government different from all other governments?”

• @davidsacks David Sacks on x

  IN THE GLOBAL STRUGGLE AGAINST AUTHORITARIANISM, THE WEST'S REAL ENEMY IS ITSELF American politicians speak constantly about the indispensable role of the United States in leading the free world against authoritarianism. If that is true, why is the White House so silent in the

• @evacide Eva on x

  I am waiting on analysis from Brazilian lawyers before I weigh in on how legal Brazilian court's decision to block X is, but I can safely say that the fines for individual users accessing the site over a VPN are crazypants.

• @shellenberger Michael Shellenberger on x

  Financial Times notes that 56% of Brazilians say Moraes “exceeds his limits” and that his ban of X scares investors. “This is not [just] my concern, but that of investors and many people who do business in Brazil,” says the Speaker of Brazil's House, Arthur Lira. [image]

• @vkhosla Vinod Khosla on x

  If you were ordered to break the law I hope the US administration should help you. Hard position if it is illegal political pressure in Brazil but I might even have leaked the gag order. Explains a bit more what might be going on.

• @actatumonline AC Tatum on x

  @SadSonya4 What's makes it more interesting is that Twitter has complied with almost every other government request to remove content. I guess it's fine when UAE or Turkey sends the requests? https://www.forbes.com/...

• @1br0wn Ian Brown on x

  🇧🇷 VPN fines: “The application of a daily fine to individuals and legal entities in a broad and generalised manner represents a serious affront to the fundamental rights enshrined in the constitution,” said the Brazilian Bar Association 👀 https://www.ft.com/...

• @alexandrefiles Alexandre Files on x

  In a decision issued on August 18, Alexandre de Moraes elaborated on the reasons for some of his illegal orders. In summary, he explains that anyone who seeks to expose him or his accomplices - in any way - must be silenced in the name of “democracy.” Below, we focus on de

• @shellenberger Michael Shellenberger on x

  Officially, Brazil blocked X because it no longer had “legal representation” in Brazil. On leaving X, President Lula encouraged people to follow him at Bluesky. But Bluesky also has no legal representation in Brazil. Dictatorships are totalitarian and incompetent. [image]

• @vkhosla Vinod Khosla on x

  Reich also comes from an extreme left perspective that biases his interpretation. But I agree companies have to follow the law in the countries they operate in, whether they agree or not with the laws personally.

• @lexfridman Lex Fridman on x

  Brazil banning X is disturbing.

• @rakeshsfnyc Rakesh Agrawal on x

  The first amendment is an American thing. As @iamjohnoliver keeps pointing out, it is illegal to use video from British parliament to make fun of them. (He airs it in the US, but it gets cut from UK airings.) Many Americans also misunderstand the First Amendment in the US.

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  @vkhosla We do follow the laws in the countries within which we operate. The problem in Brazil is that we were ordered to break the law by “the law” with a gag order that we couldn't tell anyone about it. Now, tell me Vinod, what would you do?

• @michaelreid52 Michael Reid on x

  Brazil: Supreme Court judge de Moraes is right that X should be regulated by law, just like any other publisher. But in fining those who use it via VPNs $8000 a day he is guilty of judicial lack of proportion, so prevalent in Latin America today. https://www.ft.com/... via @ft

• @vkhosla Vinod Khosla on x

  @elonmusk The law is the law; shouldn't be abused by either the judiciary or a CEO. If Moraes is weaponizing the law against you in order to get you to engage in censorship — and is taking out a personal vendetta (which seems like given the Starlink funds freezing) — then I hope …

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  His actions are against the will of the Brazilian people he is supposed to represent

• @shellenberger Michael Shellenberger on x

  Thousands of Brazilians are resisting the order by the Dictators Moraes and Lula. They include journalists and Senators from Left, Right, and center. And people in the federal capital, Brasilia, are able to access X without VPN. Moraes' immoral censorship crusade is doomed.

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  Exactly. This platform does not seek to impose the laws of the United States on other countries - we obey the laws of that country in that country. The problem in Brazil is that @AlexandreFiles we were being told to break Brazilian laws and that we would be sanctioned if we

• r/LinusTechTips r on reddit

  VPN demand surges in Brazil despite legal threat to fine users nearly $9,000 a day for using VPNs to access X

• r/worldnews r on reddit

  VPN demand surges in Brazil despite legal threat to fine users nearly $9,000 a day for using workarounds to access X

• r/neoliberal r on reddit

  Brazil Supreme Court panel unanimously upholds judge's decision to block X nationwide

• @chancerydaily @chancerydaily on threads

  larger problem is how this makes clear that spacex and x corp (and all the rest) are just one big musk piggy bank set to do his bidding, although that — I suppose — would only be a real problem if investors or regulators gave a single shit

• @leimarisa @leimarisa on threads

  Starlink is authorized to operate a satellite network in Brazil with currently around 3,700 satellites.  Today, Starlink has 250,000 users, who will be left without service if Anatel decides on the maximum penalty.  It is the satellite internet company with the largest number of …

• @mistakenotmy Wolf Ha on threads

  All of that in mind it is worth remembering: SpaceX is completely reliant on Starlink to prop up their insane $200 billion private valuation which in turn keeps their business afloat as investors bank on a possible mega IPO in the future.  Without yearly billion dollar rounds, th…

• @mistakenotmy Wolf Ha on threads

  Of course the internet doesn't just “come from space” and is heavily dependent on ground stations in Brazil.  So if Brazil decides to put Starlink out of business for good there is little Musk can do to stop them. …

• @mistakenotmy Wolf Ha on threads

  One of the most discussed part of the Brazil <> Twitter/X affair is the freezing of SpaceX's (Starlink's) accounts in Brazil.  While many have commented that it is an unrelated company - this appears not such an outlandish action as by Brazilian standards both companies are effec…

• @marypcbuk.bsky.social Mary Branscombe on bluesky

  give us our money back or we won't obey your laws is certainly one approach to operating internationally [embedded post]

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  Unless the Brazilian government returns the illegally seized property of 𝕏 and SpaceX, we will seek reciprocal seizure of government assets too. Hope Lula enjoys flying commercial.

• @elonmusk Elon Musk on x

  @lexfridman They froze Starlink's bank accounts too, despite Starlink being a separate company with different shareholders and having broken no laws and given no warning.

• r/Twitter r on reddit

  Musk's Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

• r/anime_titties r on reddit

  Starlink tells Brazil regulator it will not comply with X suspension

• r/Starlink r on reddit

  Musk's Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

• r/elonmusk r on reddit

  Musk's Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

• r/technews r on reddit

  Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

• r/technology r on reddit

  Starlink Defies Order to Block X in Brazil

• r/FreeSpeech r on reddit

  Elon Musk is doubling down on his fight with the Brazilian authorities.  The satellite internet service controlled by Musk is refusing to comply …