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Google and Apple use passkeys to capture users by locking credentials into their platforms and have made the UX of passkeys worse than that of password managers

At around 11pm last night my partner went to change our lounge room lights with our home light control system.

Firstyear's blog-a-log William Brown

Context & Ripple Effects

Google’s passkey rollout moved the technology from an optional security feature toward a default account path, including prompts to create a passkey by default after it enabled passkeys across Google accounts. That makes the storage and recovery experience materially important rather than a niche implementation detail.

Related coverage already described a promising security model whose user experience still needed work. This critique focuses that gap on whether platform-controlled credential syncing is less usable—and less portable—than established password managers.

First-order effects

  • Users whose credentials are tied to Apple or Google account ecosystems may face more friction when signing in or recovering access across devices than they do with independent password managers.
  • Apple and Google gain greater influence over the credential layer as passkey creation becomes part of their account and device experiences.

Second-order effects

  • Password managers are pushed to improve passkey syncing and cross-platform workflows, because usability and portability become their clearest differentiation from platform-native tools.
  • Services adopting passkeys may need to preserve password or alternative recovery paths while platform-specific credential flows remain inconsistent for some users.

Third-order effects

  • If credentials remain easiest to use inside the operating-system vendor’s ecosystem, authentication can become another durable form of platform credential lock-in, raising the value of interoperable export, syncing, and recovery mechanisms.
  • The long-run contest is not only whether passkeys replace passwords, but whether the passkey layer remains contestable among platforms and password managers; that outcome depends on whether cross-platform UX improves.

The trend: Passkeys are turning authentication from a standalone security feature into a platform-controlled access layer, with portability and recovery emerging as the key competitive fault lines.

Discussion

  • @grantpotter@mastodon.social @grantpotter@mastodon.social on mastodon
    If you really want #passkeys put them in a password manager you control.  But don't use a platform controlled passkey store, and be very careful with security keys. https://fy.blackhats.net.au/ ...
  • @mhoye@mastodon.social @mhoye@mastodon.social on mastodon
    If the deliberate strangling of Mozilla's Persona a decade ago was the tragedy, this is the farce.  —  https://fy.blackhats.net.au/ ...
  • @jonah@mastodon.neat.computer Jonah Aragon on mastodon
    As an early adopter and proponent of Passkeys, it pains me to say I completely agree with this blog post.  The UX of Passkeys is completely terrible and it's become crystal clear that Apple and Google have no intention of improving it. …
  • @lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org Lauren Weinstein on mastodon
    Passkeys: A Shattered Dream  —  I have of course been highly critical of Google's (and various other) passkey deployments.  -L  —  https://fy.blackhats.net.au/ ...  [image]
  • @farzdusa.bsky.social Farzaneh Bad on bluesky
    And thats how they become critical infrastructure.  Not by hosting media organizations and their search engines...  [embedded post]
  • @durumcrustulum.com @durumcrustulum.com on bluesky
    [looks at my 1Password that syncs my passkeys across all platforms] [embedded post]
  • @jeremydstanley.com Jeremy Stanley on bluesky
    we have got to stop throwing the word “enshittification” around.  also i'm wondering how a built-in security feature causes vendor lock-in?  [embedded post]
  • @moo9000 Mikko Ohtamaa on x
    Problems in WebAuthn/Passkey world due to Google Chrome's dominance in the web browser markets https://fy.blackhats.net.au/ ... [image]
  • @0xmachos Mikey on x
    Good post on the current state of Passkeys and Security Keys. “But don't use a platform controlled passkey store, and be very careful with security keys.” https://fy.blackhats.net.au/ ...
  • @gregmolnar Greg Molnar on x
    Somehow I never got the hype around passkeys and it looks like other people see issues with it just like me: https://fy.blackhats.net.au/ ... [image]
  • @jaredhanson Jared Hanson on x
    I'm still bullish on passkeys, but there's a lot of hard truths being told here that need to be addressed before passwords can be replaced. https://fy.blackhats.net.au/ ...
  • @bradgessler Brad Gessler on x
    Industry can't help themselves but to screw up standards that could eliminate passwords. They always want to add their own little touch, which screws it up for everybody. They did it with OpenID, then OAuth, and now Passkeys. Whats' next? https://fy.blackhats.net.au/ ...
  • @chainfirexda @chainfirexda on x
    I was investigating passkeys for some work dashboards last month, the drawbacks made me drop it. They've made it impossible to do right for full easy authentication that was the dream. This guys describes it better (in multiple posts) than I ever could: https://fy.blackhats.net.a…
  • @jpohhhh James O'Leary on x
    Passkeys work for BigCo, not you. My intro to this was working on Android and deploying internal version to test device. Upon reboot, it demanded the passkey I just wiped. Fortunately Chrome OS hadn't logged me out, or I would have lost my G account. https://fy.blackhats.net.au/ …
  • r/cybersecurity r on reddit
    Passkeys: A Shattered Dream
  • @marcslove Marc Love on threads
    Passkeys create a public-private key pair.  The private key can be stored in any secure secrets store.  The default on Apple devices is to store it in iCloud Keychain & automatically sync it to all your iCloud-connected devices. …
  • @elysecara1 Elyse King on threads
    I set up a pass key for an account on my Mac.  Months later I reset my Mac and then could no longer log into my account because the passkey was no longer on my device.  I think it is device specific because I could never log on via my phone either.  Since then I stopped using pas…
  • @stop Doug Bowman on threads
    I'm betting most folks in the Apple ecosystem have been stung by Apple's *unique* 2FA implementation.  “A message with a verification code has been sent to your other devices...” So forgive us if we're a little leery of trusting iCloud to have our backs with Passkeys, like when w…
  • @marcslove Marc Love on threads
    “Passkeys” needs better marketing.  What if I could tell you that you... - never have to remember or change another password again - never have to worry about your passwords being compromised - could effortlessly sign in to every website and app with FaceID and could do all that …
  • @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on x
    A side effect of the dominant web browsers also being developed by the dominant mobile platform companies (Apple & Google) is that the open web can never reach its full potential and match mobile apps. It would literally lose them billions so instead we get small improvements. [i…