Discussion

• @hughesish Jack Hughes on threads

  And when companies do this hackish bullshit, it strengthens Apple's argument that they need …

• @parkerortolani Parker Ortolani on threads

  color me shocked that one of the world's most powerful and richest companies clearly poured its resources into killing a threat to the crown jewel of its services 🙃

• @parkerortolani Parker Ortolani on threads

  next time I reverse engineer a highly proprietary protocol of a very big powerful company that won't like it I'm not going to be as over confident

• @film_girl Christina Warren on threads

  I think it would be irresponsible if they weren't clear about exactly what the are doing.  Look, if Apple can close the mechanism that allows this to work, that's fine.  That's how reverse-engineering works.  But they'll likely need to balance that with the millions of paying App…

• @joshuajforman Josh Forman on threads

  Back in May I got into the Beeper beta.  When I learned they required me to give them my Apple ID username and password, and they wouldn't accept an app specific password, I noped out of there.  To insert themselves into this architectural diagram they either need to break the se…

• @gruber John Gruber on threads

  My prediction is that Apple will make changes—fixing bugs and/or closing loopholes—that break Beeper Mini.  It's untenable that there's unsanctioned client software for a messaging platform for which privacy and security are a primary feature.  It's a very nice app, remarkably cl…

• @adrianlee.xyz Adrian Lee on threads

  If Apple make any changes to iMessage architecture they'll have to choose between breaking iMessage for every iOS device no longer getting updates, or updating all those out of support devices.  Since Beeper Mini is following the protocol and encrypting everything on device, how …

• @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on threads

  Beeper Mini, an Android app which charged people for the ability to send message iPhone users via iMessage has stopped working.  It looks like Apple has closed whatever loophole they used to build interoperability with iMessage.  This is totally predictable to anyone who lived th…

• @sil@mastodon.social Stuart Langridge on mastodon

  Amazing how fast a big company can move when they're fixing a thing that's important to them, rather than important to you.  You want fast action from Apple, Nintendo, Google, whoever; make a thing that circumvents something they consider important and there's none of this “silen…

• @gruber@mastodon.social John Gruber on mastodon

  My prediction is that Apple will make changes—fixing bugs and/or closing loopholes—that break Beeper Mini.  It's untenable that there's unsanctioned client software for a messaging platform for which privacy and security are a primary feature. …

• @marypcbuk.bsky.social Mary Branscombe on bluesky

  if you didn't expect this to happen, I have a bridge to sell you, plus a copy of a memoir about the AIM/MSN Messenger chat wars [embedded post]

• @onbeeper @onbeeper on x

  Investigating reports that sending/receiving is not working in Beeper Mini 🔎

• @ericmigi Eric Migicovsky on x

  Buckle up, this is going to be a wild ride

• @artemr Artem Russakovskii on x

  Apple already killed Beeper Mini. That was fast. Wonder if they will figure out a way to come back and how many times Apple will be able to shut them down.

• @anshelsag Anshel Sag on x

  This is just more ammo for the EU decision about RCS

• @heyyoudvd Dave on x

  @SnazzyLabs The biggest problem when Apple makes moves like this is that no one trusts their motives anymore. Apple has always been strict at locking things down, but in the past, they did it for the purpose of preserving the best possible ‘walled garden’. The walled garden no lo…

• @snazzylabs @snazzylabs on x

  At least everybody can cancel before the end of their free trial. 😂 I think it took everyone by surprise (including Beeper) how quickly Apple shut this down. Talking to them, they had a lot of other ways to keep Beeper Mini up, but a business can't be based on “cat-and-mouse.”

• @suka_hiroaki Andreas Proschofsky on x

  The only surprise here is why anyone would use yet another iMessage-for-Android hack where it was totally clear that Apple would find a way to pull the plug

• @matthew_d_green Matthew Green on x

  What's surprising is that it took several days. https://techcrunch.com/... [image]

• @richontech Rich DeMuro on x

  Oh no. Did Apple pull the big plug out of the cloud? I'm getting a spinning circle of death then this message. [image]

• @ronamadeo Ron Amadeo on x

  As expected, looks like Apple killed Beeper Mini. All this iMessage stuff is a waste of time. Apple does not want Android users to use it. You will be shut down. But hey this one lasted like twice as long as Sunbird! https://techcrunch.com/...

• @sbisson Simon Bisson on x

  Ah, it takes me back to the heady days of the IM wars in the aughts...

• @matthew_d_green Matthew Green on x

  I don't want to be glib about this. Interoperability and third party clients would be very good for iMessage. I just don't think you're going to achieve this through a few clever hacks.

• @johnwilson @johnwilson on x

  @Techmeme @SarahPerezTC Lmao. Ya think? It's a huge security risk to have E2E messages running through an unofficial third party client. And I have no clue why The Verge and other tech media wouldn't say as much. Absurd and unprofessional.

• @harrymccracken Harry McCracken on x

  The whole idea of unauthorized Android support for iMessage reminds me of Palm's idiosyncratic attempts circa 2009 to commandeer iTunes. Here's an image I created back then of a Palm Pre tilting at a windmill. [image]

• @ericmigi Eric Migicovsky on x

  Stay close to your phones