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Reddit plans to charge companies to access its API, which many have used to train AI tools; the API will stay free for developers building apps for Reddit users

The internet site has long been a forum for discussion on a huge variety of topics, and companies like Google and OpenAI have been using it in their A.I. projects.

New York Times Mike Isaac

Context & Ripple Effects

Reddit’s distinction between commercial AI use and user-facing app development turned its discussion archive into a product rather than a freely available input. Follow-up coverage tied the policy to LLMs increasing the value of Reddit data and the company’s IPO preparations, while Reddit later reached a reported $60M-a-year data-access agreement with Google.

The move matters because it establishes an early boundary around who may reuse community-generated content at scale: developers serving Reddit users retain access, while model builders and other commercial users face a licensing path.

First-order effects

  • AI companies and other commercial users of Reddit’s API must negotiate paid access instead of treating Reddit content as a no-cost training resource.
  • Developers building apps for Reddit users remain exempt, preserving the ecosystem of user-facing integrations while separating it from commercial data extraction.

Second-order effects

  • Paid access gives Reddit a mechanism to convert its data into recurring commercial revenue; the reported Google agreement shows how that mechanism could become a direct licensing channel.
  • Model developers reliant on large public-discussion datasets face higher acquisition costs and incentives to secure comparable data partnerships rather than depend on unrestricted APIs.

Third-order effects

  • If replicated by other content platforms, publicly accessible community data could shift from an informal AI-training commons toward negotiated, platform-controlled inputs.
  • That transition may create a persistent trade-off for publishers and platforms: licensing AI access can monetize content, but later coverage that outlets were considering limiting Google’s AI access as referral traffic fell suggests distribution effects can complicate those deals.

The trend: This is an early example of AI training data being commercialized through controlled API access rather than treated as an open web byproduct.

Discussion

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  • @mikeisaac Rat King on x
    some news: Reddit will begin charging the biggest companies for API access, which has been used historically to train the coming wave of LLMs and artificially intelligent programs “It's a good time for us to tighten things up,” CEO Steve Huffman said. https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @altryne @altryne on x
    Sigh... as tho reddit cannot be scraped without API. This move to close the internet down to developers who want to enrich ecosystem (Twitter, now Reddit) is a very bad outcome, and I wonder how much of a solution it really offers. https://twitter.com/...
  • @r0wdy_ Ham Elliot on x
    Nobody is going to get a bigger paycheck from this AI shit than the RIAA and firms working on intellectual property cases https://twitter.com/...
  • @nytimestech @nytimestech on x
    “The Reddit corpus of data is really valuable,” Reddit's founder and CEO, Steve Huffman, told @MikeIsaac. “But we don't need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free.” https://www.nytimes.com/...
  • @jason @jason on x
    As I predicted, @reddit about to secure a $25-100m bag from every LLM that wants access to their corpus https://twitter.com/...
  • @mcwm Mike Murphy on x
    they waited too long to do this https://twitter.com/...
  • @elonmusk Elon Musk on x
    @Jason @Reddit They're right
  • @taylordotbiz @taylordotbiz on x
    I, for one, think it's a good idea to build a titanomarchy of new world-striding spider gods from the collective minds of the lamest, most annoying people to ever live. https://twitter.com/...
  • @pkafka Peter Kafka on x
    Gonna be fascinating. AI folks say they shouldn't get charged to look at things on the web - but then some of them do pay to ingest stuff: e.g. OpenAI pays shutterstock. Meanwhile many content makers/owners will be dismayed to find how little their content is worth. https://twitt…
  • @rachelmetz Rachel Metz on x
    Gonna be interesting 5 years from now when we see a bunch of LLMs (or whatever we then call it) whose training data basically stops at midway-through-2023 Reddit. https://twitter.com/...
  • @jason_kint Jason Kint on x
    “More than any other place on the internet, Reddit is a home for authentic conversation. There's a lot of stuff on the site that you'd only ever say in therapy, or A.A., or never at all.” https://twitter.com/...
  • @alice_comfy Alice on x
    And this is how these companies become massively more valuable. https://twitter.com/...