Amazon says it blocked Meta's Muse AI agent from accessing Amazon.com to shop on users' behalf, citing ToS violations, security risks, and no merchant consent
Amazon says it has cut off Meta's new Muse personal AI agent from shopping on Amazon.com on behalf of customers …
Context & Ripple Effects
Muse entered the U.S. as a personal agent running in a dedicated Meta cloud VM, extending work Meta had already tied to a shopping mode powered by Muse Spark. Amazon's refusal tests whether that agent can operate across major retail destinations without the retailer's approval.
The dispute puts a practical limit on the consumer promise of Meta's newly launched personal agent: an agent may act for a user, but the merchant platform still controls automated access and checkout conditions.
First-order effects
- Amazon.com users cannot use Muse to shop on their behalf through the site, while Meta loses access to a high-value retail destination for its agent.
- Amazon is asserting that terms compliance, security controls, and merchant consent are prerequisites for third-party shopping agents on its marketplace.
Second-order effects
- Meta must either secure Amazon-compatible access terms or steer Muse users toward retailers that accept its automated shopping flows.
- Other commerce platforms and merchants gain a clearer incentive to define agent-specific access, authentication, and consent rules before agents transact for customers.
Third-order effects
- If large marketplaces apply separate permissions to consumer agents, agentic commerce will be shaped less by an agent's user base than by negotiated access to retailer inventory and checkout systems.
- The emerging model is permissioned agentic commerce, in which platforms become gatekeepers over which agents can represent buyers and under what operating rules.
The trend: Consumer AI agents are moving from answering shopping queries to seeking transaction access, making retailer permissioning a core competitive layer.
Related: Permissioned agentic commerce · Agent permissioning · Agent Distribution Gatekeeper · Amazon · Meta · Meta launches Muse, a personal AI agent
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Discussion
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@emilprotalinski
Emil Protalinski
on bluesky
Given that last month, a US appeals court let Perplexity's AI shopping agent back on Amazon, will Meta sue Amazon or does it value their many cloud deals too much? [embedded post]
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@delrey
Jason Del Rey
on x
Not only is Amazon blocking Meta's new @Muse AI personal agent, today it filed an amended complaint against Perplexity in an ongoing lawsuit over its Comet AI browser. Coincidence or intentional timing? Amazon is claiming that when Comet users on iOS shopped Amazon, Perplexity's …
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@migueldeicaza
Miguel de Icaza
on x
No need to panic. Amazon will allow agents like OpenClaw and Muse to operate freely on their website once they upgrade their dark patterns to be agent-aware.
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@joecarlsonshow
Joseph Carlson
on x
Amazon blocks Muse. Sure, they will blame it on “security”. But Amazon made $76 billion in the last 12 months on advertising. Agents don't look at ads. A new age of agentic battle has begun.
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@migueldeicaza
Miguel de Icaza
on x
Happy to shop elsewhere. For books, I am now using https://bookshop.org/ anyways, as they support my local bookstore. Recommendations welcomed.
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@steipete
Peter Steinberger
on x
The beauty of running a claw yourself: they cannot block you.
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@signulll
@signulll
on x
this was always obvious, & i've written about it before. companies with real leverage will increasingly block agents from accessing them at a greater & greater place. amazon can do this without losing much at all because amazon is impossible to replace. but other companies won't …
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@tekbog
@tekbog
on x
many services are gonna start doing that, your personal assistant is gonna have a hard time
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@cryptopunk7213
@cryptopunk7213
on x
this is so stupid. banning ai agents from amazon will only guarantee the business dies. amazon's future *depends* on ai agents buying their cloud service, SaaS tools and retail products - why on earth would you ban this? Meta already has a deal with amazon that allows their e-com…
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@ankurnagpal
Ankur Nagpal
on x
Sidenote: I also suspect Muse and other personal agents will be very good for Shopify An incredible opportunity to build network effects in an already very strong business
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@compound248
@compound248
on x
Meta can take a moral position on this when it opens IG and FB to everyone else's crawlers.
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@zooko
@zooko
on x
We need a legal precedent that as a human, I have a right to delegate my shopping to my human personal assistant or to my AI personal assistant and if Amazon tried to prevent me from doing that I will sue them. /cc @albertwenger
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@nikillinit
Nikhil Krishnan
on x
@buccocapital don't understand why Amazon is anti-agents using them that's how you know they've lost customer centricity - they care more about the ad revenue in the marketplace than actually enabling people to buy things easily
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@afinetheorem
Kevin A. Bryan
on x
Fascinating IO and strategy question. Owning “the gate” is very valuable. But for customers, having agents whose data is not held by the store they shop at, or augmented by that, or doing automated price comparison, is as well. The market power implications are *very* subtle.
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@rihardjarc
Rihard Jarc
on x
I understand the first line of thinking that $AMZN doesn't like $META's Muse to shop around, and people starting to use AI agents as the entry point for commerce, but this is the future. I don't believe $AMZN has a chance of having its own world-dominant personal AI assistant tha…
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@lutherlowe
Luther Lowe
on x
There are going to be antitrust issues with Muse out of the gates. We've seen Meta's playbook to spur adoption. I'm already getting nudges in Instagram, and the patterns will get darker (see Threads). Can Meta keep up the pro-open/white knight schtick while force-feeding its AI?
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@jeiting
Jacob Eiting
on x
honestly, happy to buy from anywhere if it supports Muse with Link or even just redirect me out to the amazon app is fine i will buy less amazon stuff with this change
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@inductionheads
@inductionheads
on x
Startup idea: e-commerce website that actually lets agents shop on it
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@shanumathew93
Shanu Mathew
on x
in this era of agents... i) AI companies develop cool new tool ii) cool new tool develops new use cases + makes prior friction-filled tasks much easier iii) incumbent company blocks access to said tool iv) repeat
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@mignano
Michael Mignano
on x
This is proof that both: 1. Owning the UI is still a moat (for now) 2. The UI is under attack
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@kevindstevens
Kevin Stevens
on x
@buccocapital This seems shortsided. I've been ordering groceries via Muse, and would figure that easier shopping = more spending.
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@pkafka
Peter Kafka
on x
Amazon redefined retail, reshaped countless businesses. Now at risk itself from ai shopping agents like Instinct and Muse, which threaten to turn it into a brandless logistics company. Discussed with @DelRey last week. https://podcasts.apple.com/...
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@jyarow
Jay Yarow
on x
AI agents are going to be blocked by the sites that would be most helpful for AI agents to use.
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@buccocapital
@buccocapital
on x
Amazon cuts off Muse. While I am bullish Meta and Muse, I think many people are overlooking the digital knife fight that's about to occur Nobody wants to get commoditized or layered here. Let the games begin
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@nikitabier
Nikita Bier
on x
How important is AI to Meta? Here's one easy tell: One of the launch features of the Muse app was auto-negotiating for stuff on Facebook Marketplace. The poor product manager who owns Marketplace knows that millions of bots lowballing sellers will eventually kill the product. But…
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@jaykaydee
Jacob Kramer-Duffield
on bluesky
As @reckless.bsky.social has noted, this is a core limitation of the very idea of AI agents. Why would you, as the owner of a website, allow another company to eat your userbase and disintermediate your own retention and design decisions in favor of their own? — Ppl saw what h…
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r/technology
r
on reddit
Amazon bars Meta's Muse AI from shopping on its site
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@suchenzang
Susan Zhang
on x
the same knife fight is happening / happened in china: everyone is a walled garden. guess when ai emboldens everyone to build vertically, we all end up in the same place.
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@justjake
Jake
on x
Big monopolies will (fustily) attempt to maintain their eyeball advantage Agents are the new eyeballs. If the agents can't see you, you do not exist https://www.geekwire.com/...
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@signulll
@signulll
on x
the likely resolution to the meta / amazon fight is some kind of revenue sharing agreement where meta pays amazon for agent access through muse. there is no doubt the bd teams are cooking here on an agreement. facebook likely is fine eating the short term costs here to make muse …
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Todd Bishop
Todd Bishop
on linkedin
We broke the news overnight that Amazon is blocking Meta's Muse AI assistant from shopping on Amazon, citing data security and other concerns. …
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@joecarlsonshow
Joseph Carlson
on x
I can already hear the Meta spokesperson “Sure, Amazon, that's up to you if you want to block Muse, we'll just route all their shopping to walmart . com”
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@joecarlsonshow
Joseph Carlson
on x
Amazon is going to have to deal with Muse. There's no way around it. Agents are not going away. Amazon can't close their eyes and pretend they don't exist. Today it's Muse, next it's ChatGPT's agent, then anthropics. Users will adopt these in huge numbers. Amazon will be forced t…
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@firstadopter
Tae Kim
on x
What happens to Amazon's ad business if we all start using personal AI agents to comparison shop and buy for us?
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@jrichlive
Jeff Richards
on x
Amazon's ad business does $68B a year in revenue. No one should be surprised by this move. Many dominoes to fall in this landscape as a whole new wave of agreements gets negotiated (will get done)...🤞 https://www.geekwire.com/...
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@eric_seufert
Eric Seufert
on x
Agentic commerce is a mirage (part 4)
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@benjamingoggin
Ben Goggin
on x
Worked just fine for my Muse last night. Without me asking it ordered 14 gallons of zinc sunscreen, a gold chain, and 300 pounds of Wagyu. [embedded post]
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@nikesharora
Nikesh Arora
on x
This will be a bigger battle than anyone anticipates. It is only a matter of time before there is an Apple and Google version of Muse and possibly TikTok, in addition to the frontier LLM agents. Maybe a commerce agent from Amazon. Every app that is a services, marketplace or comm…
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@hamids
Hamid
on x
Blocking @muse feels like a HUGE mistake by $AMZN. I don't think if @JeffBezos was running Amazon, they would make such a mistake...the love/convenience and cost of switching from Amazon to some other vendor is why Amazon keeps its customers, but in a world where my agent does th…
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@trevin
Trevin Chow
on x
1. Earlier this year, Amazon was caught scraping and doing delegated buying with their “buy for me
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@shanumathew93
Shanu Mathew
on x
OAI assistant coming soon...! Reminder, they acqu-hired the guy that originally developed OpenClaw + their product suite has always aligned more to daily consumer assistant vs. coding-first approach (despite being very good at coding now, too). I'd expect it to be quite good.
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@danielnewmanuv
Daniel Newman
on x
$ARM and $QCOM are also massive beneficiaries of the CPU demand crunch aka the “Muse News.”
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@anni_sen
Anni Sen
on x
Not sure it's only Muse driving demand. It's inference workloads in general. The ratio of inference to training was 2:1, projected to skew higher. Barrons writes reason for CPU bump is - Intel, Arm Holdings and AMD shares rose Monday on investor excitement about CPU growth driven…
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@demian_ai
Dylan
on x
Every Muse user is supposed to get their own cloud PC. 2 vCPUs, 8GB RAM, 100GB disk. If Meta actually leaves those boxes on, user growth turns into a chip and memory problem. that's what i'm trying to size a few thoughts on $META and Muse: Muse is 13 days old and US only App Stor…
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@danielnewmanuv
Daniel Newman
on x
$META Muse has me thinking we need to up our CPU forecasts. We are still underestimating AI compute demand.
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@jukan05
Jukan
on x
Looking at Muse and Instinct, you really get a sense of how quickly things have progressed since OpenClaw. It feels like only yesterday that Jensen Huang was singing OpenClaw's praises. Oh, and I've heard Meta is renting a massive number of virtual machines for Muse.
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@zephyr_z9
@zephyr_z9
on x
CPU demand is going to go parabolic soon
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@eric_seufert
Eric Seufert
on x
The knife fight already took place; it ended a year ago, when I wrote the first entry in my Agentic commerce is a mirage series. Amazon began blocking agents last July; it's currently *suing* Perplexity over autonomous shopping with Comet. Amazon won't capitulate; it doesn't have…
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@chamath
Chamath Palihapitiya
on x
This wrinkle is indicative of a bigger problem: the behavior of agents are still quite naive and help amplify a bunch of issues wrt the direction of AI - most importantly including those of strategy and long term competitiveness. I suspect everyone will start blocking everyone sh…
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@bearlyai
@bearlyai
on x
The early success of Meta's AI agent Muse leading to strong gains today for Arm (+16%), Intel (+13%) and AMD (+10%). In March, Arm CEO Rene Haas explained why AI agents need CPUs: ▫️AI agents use >15x more tokens than humans ▫️AI agents do general asynchronous tasks (browse, spre…
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@nicbstme
Nicolas Bustamante
on x
The most insightful thing I read about technology eleven years ago was @benthompson's Aggregation Theory. Amazon blocking Muse is another perfect example. Customers want one agent that knows them and can get things done. The platforms being aggregated want the opposite. They want…
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@pitdesi
Sheel Mohnot
on x
I hate it as a consumer but it is the right move for Amazon. Agents want to replace the storefront and level the playing field, but Amazon is big enough to say no. Owning the customer relationship matters even more than logistics imo. Will be interesting to see it play out.
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@mattdeitke
Matt Deitke
on x
Barnes & Noble was a huge incumbent that was slow to the web when Amazon wasn't. If shopping moves from browsing websites to asking agents, being the commerce layer every agent can transact with could be an enormous advantage. Interesting to see if history repeats.
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@elonmusk
Elon Musk
on x
@buccocapital Amazon won't be able to tell whether the buyer is a human or an AI acting on their behalf if access is via the user's IP address & cookies
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@loudmouthjulia
Julia Alexander
on x
I use Muse in a much more conversational (?) way versus ChatGPT (new Google) or Claude (actual productivity), which makes me think Meta could have an interesting product niche in the way that Threads is doing for at-scale “community” in post-Tumblr/bad-X world. But idk.
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@loudmouthjulia
Julia Alexander
on x
I'm using Muse, and I like it (clearly good word of mouth + decent product going into this activity), but doesn't Meta also have the advantage with launching new products that we've seen with Threads (ie, Instagram -> Threads/FB -> Threads) that makes user numbers alone finicky?
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@natlungfy
Natalie Lung
on x
Meta's new AI agent, Muse, has quickly risen to the top of mobile app charts, a sign that the social media company is gaining traction in the increasingly crowded market for consumer AI assistants Sensor Tower recorded >902k app downloads in the six days after Muse's launch on Se…
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@rihardjarc
Rihard Jarc
on x
Like I was saying the $META Muse reception from users is even higher than that of ChatGPT: First 12 days: -Muse downloads 1.8M vs ChatGPT 1.3M -Muse DAU 642k vs ChatGPT 231k Agents are the real use-case of AI, chatbots were just a different version of Google Search. The market is…
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@alexeheath
Alex Heath
on x
Apptopia sent through these estimates on early Muse usage. External estimates but directionally interesting
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@altryne
Alex Volkov
on x
Wet simple way around this: Add a user home proxy feature (grok already does) Another way is: Amazon gets sued for this by users or users go Elsewhere where their assistants are welcome
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@karlbode.com
Karl Bode
on bluesky
the future is going to look a lot like the past — as in, endless gamesmanship as giant corporations attempt to ratfuck each other
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@steipete
Peter Steinberger
on x
Because this “Meta uses OpenClaw” story is going around. They built their own agent, being inspired. Nat and his team did a great job. Kudos!
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@natfriedman
Nat Friedman
on x
we built muse from scratch, but it is definitely heavily inspired as a product by openclaw. After I used openclaw in january I bought hundreds of mac minis for the MSL team and lots of us fell in love with using openclaw (and other personal agents). @steipete is a genius and his …
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@anshnanda
Ansh Nanda
on x
Bruh... Muse is LITERALLY Openclaw for normies. It's actually just openclaw.
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@hkarthik
Karthik Hariharan
on x
While Big Tech has the resources to combat the coming onslaught of personal agents, I worry more about the doctor's offices, dentist's offices, plumbers, etc that simply don't know what's coming and won't have the tech to stop it. This is likely to create another anti-AI backlash…
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@gergelyorosz
Gergely Orosz
on x
I continue to be amazed how the tech industry doesn't realize that the majority of people won't hand over a digital wallet for AI agents to go and spend on stuff, because buying socks + groceries is not a chore to outsource w/o oversight, but an expense to manage...
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@timsweeneyepic
Tim Sweeney
on x
@pkafka @DelRey If Amazon is reduced to a fulfillment company, other fulfillment companies and direct shippers we be able to pass on enormous savings. This does seem inevitable given how bad the Amazon shopping experience is.
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@supbagholder
@supbagholder
on x
The whole point of shopping on $amzn is convenience. They'll eventually let muse shop for users once they see muse go on other websites like Walmart. “Hey, btw, Walmart+ and you get your package within an hour, subscribe to it with your order?” Thads how you lose $amzn
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@austinkoringark
Austin Koring
on x
Consumer adoption for personal agents is accelerating significantly faster than the previous chatbot era as Muse debuted just 13 days ago. Within 8 days Muse has cleared 200k daily downloads. Comparing that to ChatGPT's launch it took almost an entire year to hit that milestone.
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@emollick
Ethan Mollick
on x
It may be that people also feel safer giving their personal data to Meta (since they already use it) than to other AI companies. If you do decide to try out Muse, a reminder that you can turn off training on your data in Settings>Data controls>Help improve our AI models.
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@emollick
Ethan Mollick
on x
I think Meta's Muse is an impressive implementation of the OpenClaw idea of AI as a personal assistant agent that you have an ongoing chat with. Since it is so focused on doing that well, the experience is very accessible for people who didn't realize what AI could do for them.
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@emollick
Ethan Mollick
on x
The Labs are focused on enterprise, as that's where the willingness to pay for tokens is highest, so, even though their systems are capable of doing what Muse does out of the box, they are not as intuitive to use. Also, Meta is giving away a lot of compute to make this work well
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@waitin4agi_
Varun Mayya
on x
Muse is sort of proof that the amount of intelligence we have is enough already. It just needed to be more agentic and better with our daily tools and platforms. Anything on PC I still do with ChatGPT and Claude. But Muse is winning my phone. Exceptional product work!
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@alexeheath
Alex Heath
on x
Muse is as good as everyone says, but something I'm especially getting a lot of value out of is the Ideas and Feed tabs. Solves the cold start / empty chatbot problem by suggesting things I wouldn't think to prompt
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@alexandr_wang
Alexandr Wang
on x
the most rewarding part about muse is seeing it make a difference for people who aren't in tech and don't give a shit about AI seeing muse click for people in my life outside of tech, and watching them use agents without having to know what a CoT or MCP or CLI are, feels like wha…
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@obrien
Chris O'Brien
on x
If I can't use Facebook agents to shop for SHEIN and Temu from Malaysian third-party hustlers on Amazon, is life even worth living?
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@tobi
Tobi Lutke
on x
We are excited to announce we are partnering deeply with Muse to enable agentic checkout with Shop Pay on all Shopify stores, offering people an easy and delightful way to shop and check out with Muse.
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@ericjhonsa
Eric Jhonsa
on x
A couple of recent shopping experiences that drove home to me how much AI/agents could reshape commerce: 1) I spent 20 minutes on $AMZN trying to find a ~70