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• @kyleichan Kyle Chan on x

  China is also considering a tiered system for AI model release, according to Reuters. A big question here is whether Beijing would put a hard limit on open-source model capabilities, given how central open source has been to China's entire AI strategy.

• @akarlin Anatoly Karlin on x

  Europe is at the point where, if it was smart, it would negotiate the terms of its surrender to the US on maximally favorable conditions, while it still retains some leverage (mostly ASML and the Germanic machine tool building complex). This window won't remain open indefinitely.

• @teortaxestex @teortaxestex on x

  I really recommend reading this. The Chinese are thinking about subtle problems with open source. Ironically this “open now, bankrupt profit-chasing smaller entities, close later” is what's attributed to Chinese ecosystem as a whole, and what Meta tried to do. [image]

• @jchengwsj Jonathan Cheng on x

  Reuters: Chinese authorities have held meetings with top tech firms over the past month about potentially restricting overseas access to China's most advanced AI models, including those yet to be released, three people familiar with the discussions said. https://www.reuters.com/.…

• @__tinygrad__ @__tinygrad__ on x

  In a few years, between hardware and algorithmic improvements, this will all look as laughable as governments restricting encryption to 40-bits.

• @krishnanrohit Rohit on x

  Good for: eas worried about rsi, frontier labs' ipo Bad for: users, decentralised safety efforts

• @aaditsh Aadit Sheth on x

  China gave its models away when it was behind. Qwen, DeepSeek, GLM. All were open. The strategy was to commoditize the model layer so US labs can't charge premium prices. It worked. US companies now route over 30% of their AI tokens through Chinese models every week (a year ago

• @afinetheorem Kevin A. Bryan on x

  Today in “US is not unique, nor is closed-source; no country will allow unrestricted use and export of frontier dual use intelligence models”. Can't stress enough for middle powers that “ensure access to frontier AI” is going to be more important than “be sovereign from US/China”

• @nickadobos Nick Dobos on x

  Mistral's valuation just 10x'ed.

• @ruima Rui Ma on x

  Just did a round of comments on the below news so I'll paste them below: I suspect a big part of this is policy parity. Beijing generally dislikes structural asymmetry in strategic technologies. If the U.S. increasingly treats frontier AI models as strategic assets, China will

• @emollick Ethan Mollick on x

  This is a key reason I don't expect the flow of frontier open weights models to continue indefinitely, or even for very much longer. https://www.reuters.com/...

• @vkhosla Vinod Khosla on x

  That's surprising.

• @antirez @antirez on x

  If that happens Europe is officially fucked.

• @bdsqlsz @bdsqlsz on x

  I would like to point out that this primarily refers to the kind of overseas acquisition issues involving ManusAI, rather than controls on model usage.

• @ashwingop Ashwin Gopinath on x

  Brace yourself for a fresh wave of fear-mongering from the labs, their investors, and their cult-like followers! This news will be used to justify hyper-regulation, proprietary tech, and argue why only closed models should be trusted at every layer in an enterprise. Here is the

• @deanwball Dean W. Ball on x

  We don't know whether this will happen, but it's been surprising that discussions of open-weight AI broadly, and Chinese open-weight in particular, operate in an alternate reality where government security concerns don't exist, or somehow only apply to closed-weight models.

• @teortaxestex @teortaxestex on x

  Update on the Chinese AI news. The Intellectual Property Court actually had a fairly interesting discussion. The tiered release is an idea of one Chen Bing. They're more preoccupied with “openwashing” as anti-competitive move, data leaks, and gaining “discourse power”. [image]

• @bdsqlsz @bdsqlsz on x

  @multimodalart I found the link to the original article, and I think the reporter's translation is inaccurate. Tiered Plan: 1. Basic Open Source Filing Management 2. Strategic cutting-edge open-source technologies, export controls 3. National security, limited open source or non-…

• @tekbog @tekbog on x

  unironically what's EU plan innovation is killed by several factors like lack of capital from private investors, eu funds impossible to get unless you navigate the nightmare that's it's bureaucracy and a pedantic class of elites that gatekeep through “official qualifications”

• @nikesharora Nikesh Arora on x

  As I think about it, I expect that the Fable and Mythos moment, will be remembered as the moment of the “balkanization of AI”. We have seen China waking up to the notion that perhaps open sourcing models ASAP isn't the right recipe. These events are compounded by the “nervous

• @mikebutcher Mike Butcher on x

  So much for Europe switching to open source AI based on Chinese models. Think again everyone! Reuters: [image]

• @bdsqlsz @bdsqlsz on x

  I had to track down the original source cited by Reuters. Reuters exaggerated its conclusions and misrepresented China's consideration of limiting the weights of SOTA models. Tiered plan applies to all open-source technologies, not model weights. links↓ [image]

• @jukan05 @jukan05 on x

  CHINA CONSIDERS RESTRICTING OVERSEAS ACCESS TO CUTTING-EDGE AI MODELS China's Ministry of Commerce has led meetings over the past month with major AI companies, including Alibaba, ByteDance, and https://z.ai/, to discuss measures that would restrict overseas access to

• @gladstein Alex Gladstein on x

  America must lead the way on open weight models — making it possible for anyone to access and control cutting edge intelligence — or it will be a great shame on our civilization

• @shaughnessy119 Tommy on x

  Quick babe, download GLM 5.2 for the kids

• @deredleritt3r Prinz on x

  Reuters: - The CCP has held meetings with top Chinese AI labs (including Alibaba, ByteDance and https://z.ai/) about potentially restricting overseas access to China's most advanced AI models, including both closed and open-source models. - Under the proposal being

• @davidondrej1 David Ondrej on x

  worst outcome possible

• @teortaxestex @teortaxestex on x

  > the most sensitive frontier models may be banned from public release or restricted to use within China Realistically: the CCP now has a generic playbook of “replicating every weapon the US has”, particularly in export controls, as demonstrated by MOFCOM last October.  They're s…

• @zackkorman Zack Korman on x

  If China blocks access to their models how will they activate all the sleeper agents they hid in the weights? I don't understand [image]

• @mark_k Mark Kretschmann on x

  It's happening: Open source AI models from China may become restricted soon! That could be the end of an era when the whole world enjoyed free models.

• @iamemily2050 Emily on x

  Congratulations 🎉, as expected, it is the slave class for any country that did not build data centres and tried to have frontier models. The people who voted for the corrupt politicians around the world deserve what is coming for them.

• @teortaxestex @teortaxestex on x

  Oh well. America Winning once again. Wypipo innovate, the Chinese copy. I feared that it'll take exactly this clownish, reactive form of “they did it so uh we must too”. Confirms that the CCP doesn't have any serious independent thinking about AGI.

• @mitsuhiko Armin Ronacher on x

  Europeans please wake up.

• @max_paperclips Shannon Sands on x

  according to reuters, everyone calm down lmao

• @jun_song Jun Song on x

  God please don't Why???

• @cryptopunk7213 @cryptopunk7213 on x

  2 major announcements from china this morning > they're considering banning the U.S. from accessing chinese ai models after fears fable / gpt sol will be used to exploit them > deepseek is developing its own chip for everyone asking to ban nvidia gpu sales to china - this is [ima…

• @zephyr_z9 @zephyr_z9 on x

  IT'S OVER

• Tariq Krim Tariq Krim on linkedin

  Europe is now caught in the LLM sandwich.  —  The question of European cognitive autonomy is no longer theoretical. …

• @carnage4life Dare Obasanjo on bluesky

  The Chinese government has had talks with top Chinese AI companies about restricting access to their most advanced AI models by foreign users.  —  Given the significant interest in Chinese open weight models as AI token costs have risen, this would be huge hit to AI adoption if t…

• @jessefelder.com Jesse Felder on bluesky

  ‘The share of tokens used by U.S. companies on Chinese AI models via OpenRouter has risen as high at 46%.  The average across the previous 12 months was just 11%.’ www.cnbc.com/2026/07/07/c...  [image]

• @timkellogg.me Mr. Tim on bluesky

  China is establishing a 3-tier AI model review structure & gating, similar to what the Dept of Commerce just setup with Anthropic & OpenAI  —  www.reuters.com/world/beijin...

• @emollick Ethan Mollick on bluesky

  This is a key reason I don't expect the flow of frontier open weights models to continue indefinitely, or even for very much longer.  The gap between open and closed capabilities may soom start to grow, not shrink. www.reuters.com/world/beijin...

• @tedunderwood.com Ted Underwood on bluesky

  If everything reported here happens, and the US continues on current trajectory, we're looking at a bad timeline.  But there's reason to be wary about both of those “if"s.  National security priorities and commercial priorities will be at odds.  Saber-rattling is an expected outc…

• @marypcbuk Mary Branscombe on bluesky

  this kind of tit for tat actually makes me less worried that one country will get all the AI advances; if everyone is worried about getting beaten to the punch, everyone is probably moving forward at similar rates [embedded post]

• @LukaszOlejnik@mastodon.social Lukasz Olejnik on mastodon

  China considers restricting global access to its top AI models, including ones not released yet.  Alibaba, ByteDance and Z/ai got the summons.  Leaking a model may soon count as treason.  Beijing spent years pushing homegrown AI onto the world.  Now it wants to lock the door behi…

• r/europe r on reddit

  Beijing is looking at curbing overseas access to China's top AI models, sources say

• r/LocalLLaMA r on reddit

  Beijing IS NOT looking at curbing overseas access to China's top AI models (Debunking the Reuters report)

• r/neoliberal r on reddit

  Beijing is looking at curbing overseas access to China's top AI models, sources say

• r/singularity r on reddit

  China is considering restricting overseas access to its top AI models, including open-weight ones

• r/wallstreetbets r on reddit

  Beijing is looking at curbing overseas access to China's top AI models, sources say

• r/technology r on reddit

  Lawmakers probe growing use of Chinese AI models in U.S. companies