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Alex Karp calls US reliance on AI labs for military tech “effing insane”, pans AI fees for businesses, and touts Palantir's Nvidia Nemotron deal for US agencies

Topline  —  Palantir CEO Alex Karp on Wednesday called the AI industry “effing insane” in a heated interview on CNBC

Forbes Ty Roush

Context & Ripple Effects

Related coverage has repeatedly placed Alex Karp’s public case for Palantir around autonomous weapons, deterrence and a distinctly patriotic corporate culture. More recent coverage also described Palantir’s AI platform as a major growth driver while frontier AI labs became more direct competitive pressure.

This interview turns that broader positioning into a concrete agency-facing claim: Palantir is pairing its software and defense-oriented go-to-market with Nvidia’s Nemotron, while attacking both reliance on AI labs for military capabilities and their business pricing.

First-order effects

  • Palantir can market an Nvidia-backed AI option to US agencies, strengthening its pitch as the integrator between model technology and government deployments.
  • Karp’s criticism publicly differentiates Palantir from AI labs on military suitability and commercial pricing, making those issues part of its competitive message to enterprise and government buyers.

Second-order effects

  • AI labs seeking government and defense-adjacent business face a sharper need to demonstrate deployability, control and pricing terms relative to integrators such as Palantir.
  • Nvidia gains another route for Nemotron into public-sector workloads through Palantir, while agency customers may evaluate model providers and deployment platforms as a combined procurement choice.

Third-order effects

  • If this pairing is replicated, defense AI competition may increasingly be organized around full deployment stacks—models, platforms and agency integration—rather than around standalone frontier models.
  • The dispute over relying on AI labs points toward a lasting split between general-purpose AI suppliers and vendors that position themselves around national-security-specific deployment, although the corpus does not establish how agencies will ultimately allocate work.

The trend: AI suppliers are moving from selling general model access toward competing for government work through packaged, security- and deployment-oriented partnerships.

Discussion

  • @palantirtech @palantirtech on x
    Our thoughts on the importance of AI sovereignty. 1. Your AI sovereignty dictates your institution's future. Sovereignty is the precondition for choice. Relinquishing sovereignty transfers the future choices of your institution to others, who are likely to exploit it for their
  • @mikeeisenberg Michael Eisenberg on x
    Wow! This is a much watch of Alex Karp. His comments on LLMs and frontier models resonates As does “there are three tech centers I the world: The USA, china and Israel. Watch till the end [video]
  • @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp says enterprises are fed up with AI labs that “oversold” models and pushed tokenmaxxing. Customers want to own the full AI stack with Palantir + NVIDIA at the center. Absolute cinema. Worth watching until Fable isnt back. [video]
  • @petertodd Peter Todd on x
    In 2 years time, this will probably be seen as Dr. Karps most prophetic interview.
  • @socialistmma Nick Cruse on x
    In a civilized society Alex Karp would be imprisoned for aiding and abetting war crimes while Palantir would be seized and dismantled
  • @ryangrim Ryan Grim on x
    What's fascinating here if you listen closely is that Alex Karp believes that Congress is going to implement a wealth tax in reaction to the AI hype/doomerism from Sam Altman/Dario. So he's urging everyone to dial down the rhetoric. He has put his finger on what is arguably the
  • @jason @jason on x
    I've been shouting about this for over a year.... The Frontier models need to win the application layer and they're going to do that by giving free tokens to startups and discounted ones to large companies in order to steal their IP, innovations, and businesses The only way to fi…
  • @sriramk Sriram Krishnan on x
    the connective tissue between Alex Karp's comments on CNBC today and what @satyanadella has been saying recently is - we need a multitude of companies involved in the frontier ecosystem - we need a clear path for how companies and countries feel about the value they bring to AI
  • @seemacnbc Seema Mody on x
    Karp tells us CEOs are frustrated by the cost of AI tokens and the inability to keep their data in-house, creating the risk that frontier AI labs could ultimately replicate their businesses. His solution: an American-built, secure, open-source model $pltr https://www.cnbc.com/...
  • @seemacnbc Seema Mody on x
    A pleasure to have Palantir CEO Alex Karp join us on @SquawkCNBC this morning. He did not hold back. ""Are we really going to outsource the battlefield of this country to the consensus view in Silicon Valley? That is effing insane." $PLTR
  • @willmanidis Will Manidis on x
    i think a lot of ink is going to be spilt on this interview, but my strong view is there is no theory in the world today that isn't best expressed in a company, there are no companies that are not theories. the corporate structure is totalizing now, karp is the purest form
  • @hamids Hamid on x
    Wow. I just watched this entire 20 minute interview of $PLTR CEO Alex Karp, and I have no idea what I just watched. He talks for 20 minutes and it's very difficult to decipher what he's saying - he just seems to be attacking everyone, including his partners OpenAI and Anthropic.
  • @cernovich @cernovich on x
    Alex Karp is one of the only billionaires who gets it. The rest are so obtuse that it's not worth watching anything they say. It's like talking to people from 2015.
  • @stocksavvyshay Shay Boloor on x
    $PLTR CEO Alex Karp says customers want control over their “compute, models, data stack & alpha” instead of handing their edge to frontier labs. Enterprises don't just want token access but want ownership, security & AI systems that don't give away the value of their business. [v…
  • @amitisinvesting Amit on x
    $PLTR Alex Karp is one of the only people saying the honest truth about AI within this technology revolution: the monetization of tokens is not in the interest of actually creating value for enterprises. Palantir is in the business of value creation, not selling tokens.
  • @squawkcnbc @squawkcnbc on x
    $PLTR CEO Alex Karp says something has gone “completely wrong” with how AI is sold: https://www.cnbc.com/... [video]
  • @overton_news Overton on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp says he has been “wholesale kicked out” of his former party, the Democrats. He repeatedly warned that the far left would destroy it — and now it is happening. KARP: “And then we have left and right, far left, far right, gone completely nuts.” “You would [vi…
  • @palantirtech @palantirtech on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp on what customers actually want, the real business of frontier labs, and the importance of open source models: “What the technical customers want is control over their compute, their models, their data stack, and their alpha. They want to know they own the …
  • @boweschay Chay Bowes on x
    “Are we off camera now?” Palantir CEO Alex Karp seems to have a “bit of a breakdown” on live TV. These are the people literally running our lives. Scary. [video]
  • @jawwwn_ @jawwwn_ on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp: “When OpenAI or Anthropic especially are talking about critical infrastructure—it only is being used in our product. My product.” “Just so you see I'm not throwing shade—Dario is a literally historic figure.” “He came from behind, and he's now number [vide…
  • @jawwwn_ @jawwwn_ on x
    “ The reality is—it's not a foregone conclusion that we win.” Palantir CEO Alex Karp says we have a “peer-to-peer adversary” in China. “China has lots of advantages, including—we have to find ways to make these models raise the standard of living for every American.” “We have [vi…
  • @atrupar Aaron Rupar on x
    here is the entirety of Palantir CEO Alex Karp's televised nervous breakdown this morning on CNBC [video]
  • @jawwwn_ @jawwwn_ on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp on the Wealth Tax:  "It just punishes." “It starts with the billionaires.” “Every single person at this table is going to be paying a wealth tax only to punish us.” “And the reason for it is—these models have been completely, irresponsibly oversold.” " [vid…
  • @jawwwn_ @jawwwn_ on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp says enterprises want to “own the means of production” instead of “transferring their alpha” to OpenAI or Anthropic: “Why are [LLMs] charging for tokens if it's so valuable?” “If it was so valuable—let's say I can make you a billion dollars tomorrow. [video…
  • @atrupar Aaron Rupar on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp after a TV hit so bonkers he should probably be hauled out of the studio in a straightjacket: “I feel like I'm gonna get kicked out of the room! We're off camera now?” (They were still on camera.) [video]
  • @jawwwn_ @jawwwn_ on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp on OpenAI's @sama and Anthropic's Dario Amodei: “Something has gone completely wrong, and the basic view among enterprises in this country is, “I'm going to chillax, waste my time with tokens, get no value, and they're going to get my IP.” “There's [video]
  • @atrupar Aaron Rupar on x
    CNBC host Rebecca Quick to a crazed-sounding, incoherent, ranting Palantir CEO Alex Karp: “You sound pretty angry” [video]
  • @atrupar Aaron Rupar on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp: “Are we really gonna outsource the battlefield of this country to the consensus view in Silicon Valley? That is f'n insane ... it gets outsourced to the neurodivergent crazy person that apparently is on drugs — the one thing I don't do.” [video]
  • @rnaudbertrand Arnaud Bertrand on x
    Palantir writing a passionate manifesto in favor of open-source (largely Chinese) AI was definitely not on my bingo card. The accusations that they're a threat to their clients' sovereignty (why the French intelligence services, among others, just dropped them) must be hurting
  • @scobleizer Robert Scoble on x
    @PalantirTech Great advice. One thing I would add is that you have to watch the smartest people in the world. That is why I built my list of: 1. 50,000 people who work in AI 2. Many tens of thousands who work in other places 3. 8,900 companies in the AI space https://x.com/...
  • @rnaudbertrand Arnaud Bertrand on x
    The Digital Sovereignty Trap
  • Tom Eck Tom Eck on linkedin
    I agree with Karp (Palantir Technologies) on this one.  The “tokenomics” model is irrevocably broken.  —  WHY?:  Because this was a lazy business model from Day 1. …
  • Vaughn Davis Vaughn Davis on linkedin
    Palantir's CEO went on CNBC this week and said the quiet part out loud: “Something has gone completely wrong” with how AI is being sold. …
  • @tcarmody Tim Carmody on bluesky
    Today's manifesto looks a lot like yesterday's “talking your book” [embedded post]
  • r/LocalLLaMA r on reddit
    Palantir CEO rages against closed models
  • @wajahatali Wajahat Ali on x
    Cocaine, greed, and fascism are a helluva drug combination.
  • @darrigomelanie Melanie D'Arrigo on x
    This man was contracted by Trump to build a mass surveillance state.
  • @brndxix @brndxix on x
    nothing behind those eyes, just a soulless ghoul
  • @bethanyshondark Bethany S. Mandel on x
    I watched this all the way through and then went to see how much money I have in my savings account to buy some stock. Far from a breakdown.
  • @jphilllllll @jphilllllll on x
    What's really concerning is that this isn't a nervous breakdown. This is just how he is all the time.
  • @therickwilson Rick Wilson on x
    This is...a lot.
  • @alfredalfer77 Emily Youcis on x
    He's seriously about to pull out the machine gun and mow down the whole room. [video]
  • @jimstewartson @jimstewartson on x
    This man is deeply disturbed. This company needs to be removed from every computer paid for by taxpayers. It is fascist metastatic cancer trying to replace the government. If Democrats need an issue to run on, curing America of Palantir is a very good one.
  • @tomaskenn Thomas Kennedy on x
    The fact that this clearly unstable person is building surveillance infrastructure for the U.S. military and immigration enforcement, while acquiring massive amounts of data from unsuspecting citizens in the process, is disturbing.
  • @austen Austen Allred on x
    I watched the entire thing waiting for the nervous breakdown crashout that was advertised but all I saw was a passionate neuro-atypical guy trying to explain stuff from his point of view. False advertising.
  • @ruima Rui Ma on x
    So basically Alex Karp's argument is that frontier AI labs profit three times: (1) they charge you for tokens, (2) they get access to your IP and business know-how, and (3) they eventually commoditize your competitive advantage. Instead, he says enterprises should pay Palantir to