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Alex Karp calls US reliance on AI labs for military tech “effing insane”, pans AI fees for businesses, and touts Palantir's Nvidia Nemotron deal for US agencies

Topline  —  Palantir CEO Alex Karp on Wednesday called the AI industry “effing insane” in a heated interview on CNBC

Forbes Ty Roush

Context & Ripple Effects

Palantir’s recent coverage has paired its AI-platform growth with executives’ attacks on what they characterize as lower-value AI offerings, even as frontier AI labs become more formidable competitors. Karp has also consistently framed the company around defense, deterrence and government use of AI.

The Nvidia Nemotron arrangement gives that positioning a concrete agency-facing technology partnership, while Karp’s criticism of labs and enterprise AI pricing sharpens Palantir’s differentiation strategy.

First-order effects

  • Palantir can present Nvidia Nemotron to US agencies as part of its offering, tying its government AI pitch to Nvidia technology rather than relying solely on its own platform.
  • Karp’s remarks publicly challenge AI labs’ role in military technology and their business pricing models, putting Palantir in a more explicit competitive posture toward them.

Second-order effects

  • AI labs seeking government work face a clearer demand to show that their models can be deployed through procurement-ready, mission-focused integrators such as Palantir.
  • The partnership increases pressure on enterprise-AI vendors to defend recurring AI fees with operational value, not just model access; Palantir is using that contrast in its sales narrative.

Third-order effects

  • If agencies increasingly procure AI as an integrated stack of models, deployment software and mission workflows, value may concentrate in vendors that control implementation and government relationships rather than in model providers alone.
  • The episode points to a widening split between general-purpose AI platforms and defense-oriented AI suppliers, though the durability of that split depends on whether agencies favor integrated offerings over direct relationships with AI labs.

The trend: Government AI adoption is moving toward contested, vertically integrated deployment stacks in which model providers, chip companies and defense software firms compete to own the agency interface.

Discussion

  • @palantirtech @palantirtech on x
    Our thoughts on the importance of AI sovereignty. 1. Your AI sovereignty dictates your institution's future. Sovereignty is the precondition for choice. Relinquishing sovereignty transfers the future choices of your institution to others, who are likely to exploit it for their
  • @kimmonismus @kimmonismus on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp says enterprises are fed up with AI labs that “oversold” models and pushed tokenmaxxing. Customers want to own the full AI stack with Palantir + NVIDIA at the center. Absolute cinema. Worth watching until Fable isnt back. [video]
  • @seemacnbc Seema Mody on x
    Karp tells us CEOs are frustrated by the cost of AI tokens and the inability to keep their data in-house, creating the risk that frontier AI labs could ultimately replicate their businesses. His solution: an American-built, secure, open-source model $pltr https://www.cnbc.com/...
  • @seemacnbc Seema Mody on x
    A pleasure to have Palantir CEO Alex Karp join us on @SquawkCNBC this morning. He did not hold back. ""Are we really going to outsource the battlefield of this country to the consensus view in Silicon Valley? That is effing insane." $PLTR
  • @petertodd Peter Todd on x
    In 2 years time, this will probably be seen as Dr. Karps most prophetic interview.
  • @jason @jason on x
    I've been shouting about this for over a year.... The Frontier models need to win the application layer and they're going to do that by giving free tokens to startups and discounted ones to large companies in order to steal their IP, innovations, and businesses The only way to
  • @cernovich @cernovich on x
    Alex Karp is one of the only billionaires who gets it. The rest are so obtuse that it's not worth watching anything they say. It's like talking to people from 2015.
  • @atrupar Aaron Rupar on x
    here is the entirety of Palantir CEO Alex Karp's televised nervous breakdown this morning on CNBC [video]
  • @atrupar Aaron Rupar on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp: “Are we really gonna outsource the battlefield of this country to the consensus view in Silicon Valley? That is f'n insane ... it gets outsourced to the neurodivergent crazy person that apparently is on drugs — the one thing I don't do.” [video]
  • @boweschay Chay Bowes on x
    “Are we off camera now?” Palantir CEO Alex Karp seems to have a “bit of a breakdown” on live TV. These are the people literally running our lives. Scary. [video]
  • @palantirtech @palantirtech on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp on what customers actually want, the real business of frontier labs, and the importance of open source models: “What the technical customers want is control over their compute, their models, their data stack, and their alpha. They want to know they own the …
  • @squawkcnbc @squawkcnbc on x
    $PLTR CEO Alex Karp says something has gone “completely wrong” with how AI is sold: https://www.cnbc.com/... [video]
  • @willmanidis Will Manidis on x
    i think a lot of ink is going to be spilt on this interview, but my strong view is there is no theory in the world today that isn't best expressed in a company, there are no companies that are not theories. the corporate structure is totalizing now, karp is the purest form
  • @amitisinvesting Amit on x
    $PLTR Alex Karp is one of the only people saying the honest truth about AI within this technology revolution: the monetization of tokens is not in the interest of actually creating value for enterprises. Palantir is in the business of value creation, not selling tokens.
  • @scobleizer Robert Scoble on x
    @PalantirTech Great advice. One thing I would add is that you have to watch the smartest people in the world. That is why I built my list of: 1. 50,000 people who work in AI 2. Many tens of thousands who work in other places 3. 8,900 companies in the AI space https://x.com/...
  • @rnaudbertrand Arnaud Bertrand on x
    The Digital Sovereignty Trap
  • @atrupar Aaron Rupar on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp after a TV hit so bonkers he should probably be hauled out of the studio in a straightjacket: “I feel like I'm gonna get kicked out of the room! We're off camera now?” (They were still on camera.) [video]
  • @stocksavvyshay Shay Boloor on x
    $PLTR CEO Alex Karp says customers want control over their “compute, models, data stack & alpha” instead of handing their edge to frontier labs. Enterprises don't just want token access but want ownership, security & AI systems that don't give away the value of their business. [v…
  • @atrupar Aaron Rupar on x
    CNBC host Rebecca Quick to a crazed-sounding, incoherent, ranting Palantir CEO Alex Karp: “You sound pretty angry” [video]
  • @rnaudbertrand Arnaud Bertrand on x
    Palantir writing a passionate manifesto in favor of open-source (largely Chinese) AI was definitely not on my bingo card. The accusations that they're a threat to their clients' sovereignty (why the French intelligence services, among others, just dropped them) must be hurting
  • @overton_news Overton on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp says he has been “wholesale kicked out” of his former party, the Democrats. He repeatedly warned that the far left would destroy it — and now it is happening. KARP: “And then we have left and right, far left, far right, gone completely nuts.” “You would [vi…
  • @ryangrim Ryan Grim on x
    What's fascinating here if you listen closely is that Alex Karp believes that Congress is going to implement a wealth tax in reaction to the AI hype/doomerism from Sam Altman/Dario. So he's urging everyone to dial down the rhetoric. He has put his finger on what is arguably the
  • @mikeeisenberg Michael Eisenberg on x
    Wow! This is a much watch of Alex Karp. His comments on LLMs and frontier models resonates As does “there are three tech centers I the world: The USA, china and Israel. Watch till the end [video]
  • @socialistmma Nick Cruse on x
    In a civilized society Alex Karp would be imprisoned for aiding and abetting war crimes while Palantir would be seized and dismantled
  • @jawwwn_ @jawwwn_ on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp says enterprises want to “own the means of production” instead of “transferring their alpha” to OpenAI or Anthropic: “Why are [LLMs] charging for tokens if it's so valuable?” “If it was so valuable—let's say I can make you a billion dollars tomorrow. [video…
  • @hamids Hamid on x
    Wow. I just watched this entire 20 minute interview of $PLTR CEO Alex Karp, and I have no idea what I just watched. He talks for 20 minutes and it's very difficult to decipher what he's saying - he just seems to be attacking everyone, including his partners OpenAI and Anthropic.
  • @jawwwn_ @jawwwn_ on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp on OpenAI's @sama and Anthropic's Dario Amodei: “Something has gone completely wrong, and the basic view among enterprises in this country is, “I'm going to chillax, waste my time with tokens, get no value, and they're going to get my IP.” “There's [video]
  • @jawwwn_ @jawwwn_ on x
    “ The reality is—it's not a foregone conclusion that we win.” Palantir CEO Alex Karp says we have a “peer-to-peer adversary” in China. “China has lots of advantages, including—we have to find ways to make these models raise the standard of living for every American.” “We have [vi…
  • @jawwwn_ @jawwwn_ on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp on the Wealth Tax:  "It just punishes." “It starts with the billionaires.” “Every single person at this table is going to be paying a wealth tax only to punish us.” “And the reason for it is—these models have been completely, irresponsibly oversold.” " [vid…
  • @jawwwn_ @jawwwn_ on x
    Palantir CEO Alex Karp: “When OpenAI or Anthropic especially are talking about critical infrastructure—it only is being used in our product. My product.” “Just so you see I'm not throwing shade—Dario is a literally historic figure.” “He came from behind, and he's now number [vide…
  • Vaughn Davis Vaughn Davis on linkedin
    Palantir's CEO went on CNBC this week and said the quiet part out loud: “Something has gone completely wrong” with how AI is being sold. …
  • @tcarmody Tim Carmody on bluesky
    Today's manifesto looks a lot like yesterday's “talking your book” [embedded post]