Sources: senior Anthropic technical staff flew to DC to meet WH officials over the Mythos 5 dispute, with both sides saying they are eager to resolve the issue
Senior technical Anthropic staff are in Washington to meet with White House officials to try to fix a dispute that has taken …
Axios Maria Curi
Context & Ripple Effects
This meeting follows a longer Anthropic–administration conflict that had already reached senior White House and Pentagon-facing discussions. The dispute is also connected to White House security concerns over Anthropic’s proposed expansion of Mythos access.
The appearance of senior technical staff suggests the issue has moved beyond public positioning toward implementation-level questions, even as related coverage indicates the two sides had not yet reached a resolution.
First-order effects
- Anthropic and White House officials gain a direct technical negotiation channel for the Mythos 5 dispute, putting the company’s access and deployment plans under immediate administration scrutiny.
- The White House can press its security and cyber-policy concerns directly with the personnel able to explain or alter technical safeguards.
Second-order effects
- A prolonged impasse could constrain Anthropic’s ability to broaden Mythos availability to additional organizations, an expansion the White House had previously opposed on security grounds.
- The company’s government relationships become more consequential for its commercial and public-sector rollout strategy, while rivals can position their own systems as more readily aligned with federal requirements.
Third-order effects
- If such disputes are settled through model-specific access conditions and technical assurances, federal AI policy may increasingly be implemented through negotiated deployment controls rather than only broad rules.
- The case highlights a possible split between AI developers seeking to preserve safety commitments and an administration seeking greater flexibility or compliance; whether that becomes a durable industry divide depends on the eventual resolution.
The trend: Frontier AI deployment is becoming a negotiated governance issue in which access, security controls, and alignment with government policy are decided alongside model capability.
Related: Anthropic says its senior leaders met Trump administration officials o · Sources: Dario Amodei is set to meet with WH Chief of Staff Susie Wile · Sources: the White House opposes Anthropic's plan to expand access to · Anthropic
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Discussion
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@kimmonismus
@kimmonismus
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Much will depend on tomorrow. It's possible that Anthropic will now be clearly swayed, with the authorities stating that their peculiarities and, essentially, their disregard for government officials will no longer be tolerated. Alternatively, the market reaction on Monday to the
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@kimmonismus
@kimmonismus
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Just now: Anthropic is flying senior technical staff to Washington to repair its fight with the White House after export controls forced its top models, Mythos and Fable, offline. The company is now trying to convince officials that the models can be safely controlled, turning [i…
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@zerohedge
@zerohedge
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The imminent “Anthropic - White House” ceasefire is the new imminent “Iran-US” ceasefire
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Scoop: Anthropic flies staff to D.C. to clean up White House fight
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r/accelerate
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Senior Anthropic staff are in Washington meeting White House officials to resolve the Fable 5 and Mythos dispute
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Senior Anthropic staff are in Washington meeting White House officials to resolve the Fable 5 and Mythos dispute
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Senior Anthropic staffs are in Washington meeting White House officials to resolve the Fable 5 and Mythos dispute
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r/singularity
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Senior Anthropic staffs are in Washington meeting White House officials to resolve the Fable 5 and Mythos dispute
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Senior Anthropic staffs are in Washington meeting White House officials to resolve the Fable 5 and Mythos dispute
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@edzitron.com
Ed Zitron
on bluesky
EXACTLY what everyone wants to hear right now — thenextweb.com/news/carney-... [embedded post]
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@northerncyn
@northerncyn
on bluesky
Right but then he wants to build data centers all over my province. [embedded post]
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@symbo1ics
@symbo1ics
on bluesky
This is like that time when he said the old rules based order Canada worked for was bad now, — then said Canada needs to pay NATO $150 billion a year to play forever war on the side of fascists anyway and we'll pay for it by cutting services and digging every last natural resou…
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@polymarket
@polymarket
on x
JUST IN: EU says the Anthropic decision is a “further illustration” of why Europe needs stronger tech sovereignty.
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r/worldnews
r
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EU Commission looking at practical consequences of Anthropic decision, spokesperson says
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@thezvi
Zvi Mowshowitz
on x
This is why you don't let founders quit. @JeffBezos would never.
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@simonw
Simon Willison
on x
I'm just glad nobody at the US government thought to try that Fable 5 “jailbreak” against Opus 4.x or GPT 5.x, or I wouldn't be getting anything useful done this weekend at all
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@provisionalidea
James Rosen-Birch
on x
reporting cyber risks to authorities is one thing, the weird piece is that it went straight to the Department of Commerce as opposed to the standard agencies (CISA, FBI, etc)
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@levie
Aaron Levie
on x
Everyone thinks this is some kind of 4D chess or conspiracy. But it's quite standard to try and jailbreak AI models, and by definition they would share that research with the government given that's whole point. I don't think Amazon assumed this would be the next move.
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@zephyr_z9
@zephyr_z9
on x
Amazon/AWS being a defence contractor was the main reason Based on what Axios has reported, USG didn't want the model to be released publicly Ant refused and they were/are using AWS infra to deploy it If a major cybersecurity incident occured, then Amazon would get sued
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@kantrowitz
Alex Kantrowitz
on x
Amazon invested $50 billion in OpenAI earlier this year
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@quinnypig
Corey Quinn
on x
I guess if Amazon can't win at AI, no one can?
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@chamath
Chamath Palihapitiya
on x
Game theory from here is super interesting: Original Mags (Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Meta) now have a serious non-zero opportunity to tank the frontier labs. Go to the government, kneecap the labs' motion of putting the latest models out in the wild, become the trusted
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@kimmonismus
@kimmonismus
on x
There are only two possibilities: Either a solution is quickly found next week that somehow explains to the market how enterprises can continue to access Anthropic's best models in the future, in agreement with the US government, or: We foresee a rapid decline in the valuation
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@deredleritt3r
Prinz
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@daniel_mac8 Amazon discovered a vulnerability that it believes is very serious. Amazon's legal was asked to opine on what to do. Amazon's legal opined that this must be disclosed to the USG. Alternatively, Amazon's legal opined that this *could* be disclosed to the USG, and comp…
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@steph_palazzolo
Stephanie Palazzolo
on x
Breaking: Amazon CEO Andy Jassy was among the tech leaders who raised concerns to senior Trump officials this week re: security risks in Anthropic's newest models. Those convos set in motion the government's new export controls on foreign national access to Mythos and Fable. [ima…
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@martin_casado
@martin_casado
on x
“The Admin asked Dario to fix the jailbreak or de-deploy the model. Dario refused. — In their blog post, Anthropic defended its decision by saying the jailbreak isn't serious. ” This is crazy. What are we even doing here?
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@daniel_mac8
Dan McAteer
on x
I don't like the smell of this. I remind you that Amazon: 1. Invested $13B in Anthropic 2. Is due $100B in committed AWS spend over the next decade from Anth What's the Occam's Razor explanation? Is Andy Jassy just that virtuous? Doubt it. [image]
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@miles_brundage
Miles Brundage
on x
The admin is going to keep leaking all sorts of details that make it sound, to a casual reader, like this was a reasonable decision. But there has been zero indicating that domain experts at CAISI or NSA were involved - all reporting points to “senior White House officials.”
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@garymarcus
Gary Marcus
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1. WOW! Amazon is going to get some hate for this. 2. before judging myself I would love to know more about the nature and gravity of the exploits, and why these specific models were singled out, given that all LLMs are vulnerable.
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@zephyr_z9
@zephyr_z9
on x
Jassy was snitching DAYUM
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@amasad
Amjad Masad
on x
Feels like we're getting psyoped. The end-game here is something bigger.
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@shakeelhashim
Shakeel
on x
Sounds like Sean Cairncross was a lead decision maker here: https://www.theinformation.com/ ... [image]
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@kimmonismus
@kimmonismus
on x
It was in fact Amazon (CEO Andy Jassy) who reportedly helped trigger the Claude shutdown. Via The Information Amazon CEO Andy Jassy reportedly warned senior Trump administration officials about security risks in Anthropic's newest Claude models, helping trigger late-night export …
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@edzitron
Ed Zitron
on x
Is Amazon trying to kill Anthropic
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@kimmonismus
@kimmonismus
on x
The next big beneficiary is, of course, OpenAI for two reasons. 1) IPO: OpenAI is concerned that Anthropic would preempt its IPO, resulting in a better valuation. And this was recently a likely scenario. This would have created the image of a second-rate competitor. Now, the [ima…
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@theo
@theo
on x
Wall Street Journal is reporting that Amazon reported the jailbreaks to the Department of Commerce, who instituted the ban [image]
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@davidsacks
David Sacks
on x
David Sacks says Dario Amodei refused to “fix the jailbreak or de-deploy the model” after “a highly credible trusted partner” reported a Fable jailbreak
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@aparker.io
@aparker.io
on bluesky
we can't underestimate the possibility that this was a move by Amazon to prevent tokenmaxxing devs from bankrupting the company with fable usage — www.wsj.com/tech/ai/amaz...
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Amazon security research reportedly led to the White House's Anthropic Fable ban
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Amazon CEO's Talks With U.S. Officials Triggered Crackdown on Anthropic Models | Information Andy Jassy shared with the Trump administration sparked an abrupt …
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r/BetterOffline
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Amazon CEO's Talks With U.S. Officials Triggered Crackdown on Anthropic Models
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r/ClaudeCode
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Amazon CEO's Talks With U.S. Officials, Triggered Crackdown on Anthropic Model Fable 5
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r/singularity
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Amazon CEO's Talks With U.S. Officials, Triggered Crackdown on Anthropic Model Fable 5
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r/ClaudeAI
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Amazon CEO Andy Jassy Reportedly Raised Concerns About Anthropic's AI Models Before Fable 5 Was Restricted
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@carnage4life
Dare Obasanjo
on bluesky
Anthropic and the U.S. government likely both want this over quickly. — If Mythos is as dangerous as Anthropic claims, export controls make sense. Nvidia GPUs are controlled and they're harmless by comparison. — But opening that door risks tanking the AI industry, so I expec…
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@kevinbankston
Kevin Bankston
on x
The idea that Fable is still blocked because @k8em0 has pink hair and is explciit about pronouns is absolutely maddening, completely lawless, and absolutely on brand for this clown car of an administration
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@pankajkumar_dev
Pankaj Kumar
on x
Fable 5 Update: Could It Return This Week? - Anthropic engineers are meeting with Commerce, the CIA, and White House officials to resolve the Fable 5 dispute. - According to Axios, the standoff is now as much about communication and trust as it is about jailbreak concerns. - [ima…
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@_nathancalvin
Nathan Calvin
on x
I'm not sure whether the Fable decision was indeed primarily about “personality clashes” as this article details. But these issues are high stakes enough that it seems quite good to have sufficiently legible and transparent rules such that we don't have to wonder!
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@natpurser
Nat Purser
on x
not sure the admin realizes how bad this makes them look. if access to frontier models is being cut off because of jailbreak risk, ok. but saying this was largely driven by “personality differences,” “optics,” whether ant made officials feel sufficiently respected ... i mean. [im…
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@nicoperrino
Nico Perrino
on x
Only Republican cybersecurity experts allowed. [image]
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@simonw
Simon Willison
on x
Doesn't sound like we'll be getting Fable back very soon, then [image]
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@akarlin
Anatoly Karlin
on x
Big Brains here were posting all kinds of 10D chess theories about Fable withdrawal from genuine security implications to elaborate ploy to safetypill USG. Now we learn it was “personality clashes.” People just do not want to understand the Trump administration and what it is. [i…
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@ai_for_success
AshutoshShrivastava
on x
As per Axios, the shutdown of Anthropic's Fable and Mythos was not just about AI safety. Amazon reportedly warned the White House that the models could be jailbroken, but things got worse because Anthropic and the Trump administration were constantly clashing behind the scenes. […
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@kimmonismus
@kimmonismus
on x
New update on Fable 5: and it's less about jailbreaks than anyone initially thought. Via Axios The Axios story that just dropped today reframes the whole thing: Anthropic hired a cybersecurity expert to review Amazon's findings and push back on the government's narrative. The [im…
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@daniel_mac8
Dan McAteer
on x
Claude Fable is a casualty in the Culture Wars. [image]
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@scaling01
@scaling01
on x
Anthropic should've asked Le Chaton Fat on how to effectively communicate with the White House. After this report it's very clear that this is something personal and Anthropic just didn't stroke the ego enough of whoever was opposite on that negotiating table.
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@firstadopter
Tae Kim
on x
“this action has taken the best models away from defenders, created market uncertainty, and risked America's AI leadership without any real risk to justify it.” “We, the undersigned executives and technical leaders from across the United States, write to you to ask you to lift [i…